Rock's X4A-1511 journal

[Topaz]

I've had a lot of interest lately from 18-22 year old girls that argue I'm 28 not 42.

Awesome, I'm almost the same age myself.

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Sounds reasonable from what you've said about it.

If it isn't released there will be other 6G programs to choose from like DMSI 6G and X4A-1600 assuming the 1600 is still gonna be released.

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid264711

Alright, so things are up in the air with X4A-2000 right now, and I don't know if it will be released this month, but I am working on an aphrodisiac to publish this month either way. This aphrodisiac is aimed at men interested in arousing women, and it is a Direct Exposure Aphrodisiac, meaning the women to be affected must listen to it.

Extreme Social Proof Aphrodisiac (at least for its debut that's being built this month) won't be 6G but it's interesting to notice that ESPA might be somewhat comparable to the approach (i.e. direct rather than indirect) of previous programs:

• X24
  
• X32
  
• X124
  
• Sexual Arousal Magnifier Subliminal
  
• Poetry of the Silent Eros - Subliminal Arousal Toolkit 3.0
  

It's gonna be a long wait for (premium) DMSI 5.0 and (non-premium) X4A-1600 since plenty of 6G programs will definitely take a higher priority for sure, that's why I've been wondering what those "specifics" of X4A-2000 really are all about:

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid263851

As to the approach it takes, it is based on the script of X4A-1511, but extends that script to about double the number of goals.  It is much more specific, much more polarizing and has a much higher impact on both the user and the affected.  It is also suitable only for heterosexual or bisexual men to use as part of the consequences of making it more specific.  Specifically what it does in that approximately doubling of goals - beyond what I have said so far - I can't reveal.  But have seen that it definitely deserves its place as a Premium.

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid264341

X4A-2000 testing is almost finished at this point, and we're not taking any more testers for it.  Testers need to have certain specific qualifications to be accepted as testers, and it's very hard to find these qualifications in anyone.  That is in large part why we have so few testers. 

Testers don't get to choose what they test, either.  It depends on their qualifications and circumstances, and what I am working with.  

Also, X4A-2000 and later are Premium programs, and those are even harder to test because Premium programs are designed for people who already execute programs like Maverick and DMSI well.  They don't try harder to get you to execute if you don't want to; they presume you will execute without trying to get you to.  This allows me to strip out a large amount of scripting designed to get people past self sabotage and resistance, which gives the user a lot more brain power to focus on the goals of the program.  The result is that most of our customer base is not qualified for testing (or using) Premiums.

Premiums will not work well for you if you struggle to execute programs like DMSI or Maverick.  This would seem to disqualify you for testing a Premium.  I am curious to know how your run of X4A-1511 is going, though.

If only 45 copies were available for sale, not sure if we're also going through the same process of ordering Maverick in the past (PayPal options are disabled for specific days of each month) again?

Absolutely no refunds for a Premium at all, I guess it sounds like we're pretty much getting "stuck" with something *IF* we weren't belonging to those "specifics" mentioned above. In other words, the (monetary) risks could be substantial while the rewards are more like YMMV then?

I agree

[Shannon]

Awesome, I'm almost the same age myself.

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https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid264711

Extreme Social Proof Aphrodisiac (at least for its debut that's being built this month) won't be 6G but it's interesting to notice that ESPA might be somewhat comparable to the approach (i.e. direct rather than indirect) of previous programs:

• X24
  
• X32
  
• X124
  
• Sexual Arousal Magnifier Subliminal
  
• Poetry of the Silent Eros - Subliminal Arousal Toolkit 3.0
  

It's gonna be a long wait for (premium) DMSI 5.0 and (non-premium) X4A-1600 since plenty of 6G programs will definitely take a higher priority for sure, that's why I've been wondering what those "specifics" of X4A-2000 really are all about:

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid263851

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid264341

If only 45 copies were available for sale, not sure if we're also going through the same process of ordering Maverick in the past (PayPal options are disabled for specific days of each month) again?

Absolutely no refunds for a Premium at all, I guess it sounds like we're pretty much getting "stuck" with something *IF* we weren't belonging to those "specifics" mentioned above. In other words, the (monetary) risks could be substantial while the rewards are more like YMMV then?

I agree

Premiums are not going to be common or plentiful, and they are not intended for everyone to buy or use.  If you have any doubts, simply don't buy them.  Part of the reason I use the price, refund policy, etc. that I do is that they're not designed or intended for everyone, and I don't want everyone buying them.  I want the people who they're intended for buying them, because those people will execute and get their money's worth.

X4A-2000 may also have less than 45 copies released.  Still cannot get a stable read on this program for some reason.  I'm working on getting another payment processor up and running besides PayPal, but this is definitely not going according to plan.

ESPA is a Direct Exposure Aphrodisiac (DEA), but the specifics of how it works is not found in any other DEA.

[Topaz]

Shannon I think the point we are making is some of us expected more or didn't understand exactly what to expect before buying some of the programs

I was not aware for example of the difference between the technologies.
The selling price and page of AM and SM and WM and aure of sexiness is not updated.
Meaning it hypes the customer more than it should in my opinion.
Then credibility gap can develop between users.

For example I'm starting to think the money I've spent on SM and WM might not be worth it.
And I'm trying assess the difference between new technologies and if this stuff can work for me with attraction.
Using AM then aura of sexiness and now SM I have MANY doubts.

However knowing some of the newer technologies might work I need to experiment on myself.
Another customer might have left the community all together.
I've decided to try DMSI now to give it a shot to hopefully gain confidence in my ability to execute attraction subliminals.

So you might not approve I've just stopped SM in Stage 3 and want to see if DMSI is doing something.


My point is try to understand why this guy here and me when I replied that I agree with me on some points wrote what we did.
If you understand the core problems here I think it can help new customers understand your work better.
From an outside or new customers perspective it can look like programs are over hyped without understanding exactly what they do it understand why some of them costs as much as they do.

I definitely not telling you how to price your products or if to offer only a certain amount of copies.
However I do have an opinion on the shop offering old technologies with old hyped selling page not mentioning the problems and "resistance" the one can have along the way.
It's funny I didn't want to try DMSI because the selling page says it's an experiment.
However it might work better it easier than SM (without good foundation) also it's cheaper as well.

I'm not saying AM or SM don't work I've read people having good experience with them.
I'll probably have too once running AM6 again and I hope DMSI might help too because of the healing and not sure if it has the fear healing too.

Thank you for reading
I hope you can understand what and why I wrote what I did.
Nonetheless even if you don't, I'll do me and give the programs more time to work.
I'm doing my process knowing to continue using SM would make me go crazy because of not having results I new path of least resistance for me as I know myself the best was to try now DMSI.
I'll come back to SM I hope soon enough.

[Shannon]

Shannon I think the point we are making is some of us expected more or didn't understand exactly what to expect before buying some of the programs



I was not aware for example of the difference between the technologies.

The selling price and page of AM and SM and WM and aure of sexiness is not updated.

Meaning it hypes the customer more than it should in my opinion.

Then credibility gap can develop between users.



For example I'm starting to think the money I've spent on SM and WM might not be worth it.

And I'm trying assess the difference between new technologies and if this stuff can work for me with attraction.

Using AM then aura of sexiness and now SM I have MANY doubts.



However knowing some of the newer technologies might work I need to experiment on myself.

Another customer might have left the community all together.

I've decided to try DMSI now to give it a shot to hopefully gain confidence in my ability to execute attraction subliminals.



So you might not approve I've just stopped SM in Stage 3 and want to see if DMSI is doing something.





My point is try to understand why this guy here and me when I replied that I agree with me on some points wrote what we did.

If you understand the core problems here I think it can help new customers understand your work better.

From an outside or new customers perspective it can look like programs are over hyped without understanding exactly what they do it understand why some of them costs as much as they do.



I definitely not telling you how to price your products or if to offer only a certain amount of copies.

However I do have an opinion on the shop offering old technologies with old hyped selling page not mentioning the problems and "resistance" the one can have along the way.

It's funny I didn't want to try DMSI because the selling page says it's an experiment.

However it might work better it easier than SM (without good foundation) also it's cheaper as well.



I'm not saying AM or SM don't work I've read people having good experience with them.

I'll probably have too once running AM6 again and I hope DMSI might help too because of the healing and not sure if it has the fear healing too.



Thank you for reading

I hope you can understand what and why I wrote what I did.

Nonetheless even if you don't, I'll do me and give the programs more time to work.

I'm doing my process knowing to continue using SM would make me go crazy because of not having results I new path of least resistance for me as I know myself the best was to try now DMSI.

I'll come back to SM I hope soon enough.

AM and SM are six stage sets, which are actually 7 stages.  That's 7 subliminals for $500.  Now, a single stage or title is $450.  The price has never changed from when I created it in 2012.  You assume that it should go down over time, and I see that it should go up because of inflation, and it's not losing value over time because it still is the same thing.  That it is still $500 a copy, instead of roughly $1500 because of inflation, sounds to me like you are already getting a reduced price.

Also, I'd like to point out that everything you're doing is failing because you're not following the advice you're given, and/or you're not following the instructions.  Instead you're trying to do things your way.  You obviously have something to work through, and instead of doing that you keep going off and doing other things, hoping you somehow magically won't have to work through that core foundational issue. 

If you're not willing to get that core issue handled, then you're wasting your time.  Everything else is going to be influenced by it.  As I understand it, your core issue stems from not having the finances to have the autonomy you need to take some of these progressions and steps. Is your core issue finances or pussy?  Because chasing after pussy will reduce your finances, and chasing after money will increase your options with sex.  It looks to me like you keep trying to chase after pussy instead of handling the core of the issue.

[Topaz]

Shannon I think the point we are making is some of us expected more or didn't understand exactly what to expect before buying some of the programs



I was not aware for example of the difference between the technologies.

The selling price and page of AM and SM and WM and aure of sexiness is not updated.

Meaning it hypes the customer more than it should in my opinion.

Then credibility gap can develop between users.



For example I'm starting to think the money I've spent on SM and WM might not be worth it.

And I'm trying assess the difference between new technologies and if this stuff can work for me with attraction.

Using AM then aura of sexiness and now SM I have MANY doubts.



However knowing some of the newer technologies might work I need to experiment on myself.

Another customer might have left the community all together.

I've decided to try DMSI now to give it a shot to hopefully gain confidence in my ability to execute attraction subliminals.



So you might not approve I've just stopped SM in Stage 3 and want to see if DMSI is doing something.





My point is try to understand why this guy here and me when I replied that I agree with me on some points wrote what we did.

If you understand the core problems here I think it can help new customers understand your work better.

From an outside or new customers perspective it can look like programs are over hyped without understanding exactly what they do it understand why some of them costs as much as they do.



I definitely not telling you how to price your products or if to offer only a certain amount of copies.

However I do have an opinion on the shop offering old technologies with old hyped selling page not mentioning the problems and "resistance" the one can have along the way.

It's funny I didn't want to try DMSI because the selling page says it's an experiment.

However it might work better it easier than SM (without good foundation) also it's cheaper as well.



I'm not saying AM or SM don't work I've read people having good experience with them.

I'll probably have too once running AM6 again and I hope DMSI might help too because of the healing and not sure if it has the fear healing too.



Thank you for reading

I hope you can understand what and why I wrote what I did.

Nonetheless even if you don't, I'll do me and give the programs more time to work.

I'm doing my process knowing to continue using SM would make me go crazy because of not having results I new path of least resistance for me as I know myself the best was to try now DMSI.

I'll come back to SM I hope soon enough.

AM and SM are six stage sets, which are actually 7 stages.  That's 7 subliminals for $500.  Now, a single stage or title is $450.  The price has never changed from when I created it in 2012.  You assume that it should go down over time, and I see that it should go up because of inflation, and it's not losing value over time because it still is the same thing.  That it is still $500 a copy, instead of roughly $1500 because of inflation, sounds to me like you are already getting a reduced price.

Also, I'd like to point out that everything you're doing is failing because you're not following the advice you're given, and/or you're not following the instructions.  Instead you're trying to do things your way.  You obviously have something to work through, and instead of doing that you keep going off and doing other things, hoping you somehow magically won't have to work through that core foundational issue. 

If you're not willing to get that core issue handled, then you're wasting your time.  Everything else is going to be influenced by it.  As I understand it, your core issue stems from not having the finances to have the autonomy you need to take some of these progressions and steps. Is your core issue finances or pussy?  Because chasing after pussy will reduce your finances, and chasing after money will increase your options with sex.  It looks to me like you keep trying to chase after pussy instead of handling the core of the issue.

I don't see why a man can't do both 
For example running SM and taking new action to better his finance issues.
Also I don't see how that has anything to do with the auras.

Not sure if you're really concerned,
I'll assume you do so I'll share,
I'm going to start a 1 year long professional course in the university to change my situation and to work in a big corporation. 

To your question,
Pussy is one of my main issues as it affects my life. 
A man who cannot attract women is by definition sterile.
It does effect my productivity.

About expenses I'm not sure what you did it go in your life, women and gf I had never were a burden to my finances.
To the contrary, hanging out too much with the guys can costs more.

Even if I spent money on gf it was never a lot and never needed to be a lot.
Again I'm not sure what you guys do there in the USA because it's not the first time you brought this up.

When I had a gf I was actually more focused on achieving goals than anything else. 

Nevermind, going down this rabbit hole and arguing here is not my intention...

[Topaz]

Ps
About price and inflation talk:
I didn't want to talk about the prices of certain programs you actually brought up the specifics.
So I'll say firstly:


$500 in 2012 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $684.20 today, an increase of $184.20 over 12 years. The dollar had an average inflation rate of 2.65% per year between 2012 and today, producing a cumulative price increase of 36.84%.

Moreover if the programs give the user much less that what E6 should and btw E6 is $450? Which should be 1 part of a 6 stager....
Than that would make E6 expensive.
However if it works and it's a new technologies one can argue that's the value.

I did however think the details on the page should be updated. To give customers better understandings.

Claiming AM6 today should be $1500 because of inflation is first not accurate as I've mentioned.

Secondly an old technology usually goes for less as time goes by.
So that is an outrageous claim all together.



I just want to mention, read again my precious reply that you quoted me,
I didn't tell you how to price your products that's your call not mine.
Once you brought up inflation and claiming it should be $1500, plus stating your opinion that old tech should cost the same. Then I did say my opinion as well.

Again I'm not fighting with you man, I see you as someone who can help me therefore to fight with you would be counterproductive.

[Diablojack00]

Ps
About price and inflation talk:
I didn't want to talk about the prices of certain programs you actually brought up the specifics.
So I'll say firstly:


$500 in 2012 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $684.20 today, an increase of $184.20 over 12 years. The dollar had an average inflation rate of 2.65% per year between 2012 and today, producing a cumulative price increase of 36.84%.

Moreover if the programs give the user much less that what E6 should and btw E6 is $450? Which should be 1 part of a 6 stager....
Than that would make E6 expensive.
However if it works and it's a new technologies one can argue that's the value.

I did however think the details on the page should be updated. To give customers better understandings.

Claiming AM6 today should be $1500 because of inflation is first not accurate as I've mentioned.

Secondly an old technology usually goes for less as time goes by.
So that is an outrageous claim all together.



I just want to mention, read again my precious reply that you quoted me,
I didn't tell you how to price your products that's your call not mine.
Once you brought up inflation and claiming it should be $1500, plus stating your opinion that old tech should cost the same. Then I did say my opinion as well.

Again I'm not fighting with you man, I see you as someone who can help me therefore to fight with you would be counterproductive.

@Topaz
I am completely lost as to why you're posting all this in my journal instead of your own.

I don't even follow what's going on cus it's confusing.

If you wanna talk about X4A-1511 fine but whatever you're talking about take it to your journal.

Thanks.

@Shannon 

Lately I feel I'm stonewalling and I don't understand why. 

below is my latest post and when you get time I'd like your opinion.

4 days into the break to wait on starting Money Magnet 5.11G I was kinda worried about losing the X4A-1511 effects so I got back on it.

The other day I went to eat where the twins work.

It was packed. Only 2 tables were open. I was directed to my crushes section.

My crush came and took my order and brought my drink. 

It was hot in the VIP section. I was initially alone in there but the other twin brought a customer back there.

So everyone was swamped. The other twin came and checked on her customer several times and even checked on me and asked How I am. She uses my name still.

My crush never came back to check on me. She talked to her other customers.

She stood at one table talking to those people.

I finished eating. Walked up to the kitchen and my crush asked do you want the ticket... and asked if I needed anything else.

I said yeah, sweet tea.. so I got that... I said thanks we said our cya later and I told other twin cya and she said cya be safe.

2 other girls have shown interest but we've only exchanged numbers so far.

I think I'm going to request the other twin next time.

Something seemed weird with all that.

Though the twins help one another a lot and she may have just been checking on me since there was just one customer aside from me back there.

It's not much of a report but a few friends say they think the twins behavior was odd and I need to switch to The other twin

[Shannon]

Ps
About price and inflation talk:
I didn't want to talk about the prices of certain programs you actually brought up the specifics.
So I'll say firstly:


$500 in 2012 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $684.20 today, an increase of $184.20 over 12 years. The dollar had an average inflation rate of 2.65% per year between 2012 and today, producing a cumulative price increase of 36.84%.

Moreover if the programs give the user much less that what E6 should and btw E6 is $450? Which should be 1 part of a 6 stager....
Than that would make E6 expensive.
However if it works and it's a new technologies one can argue that's the value.

I did however think the details on the page should be updated. To give customers better understandings.

Claiming AM6 today should be $1500 because of inflation is first not accurate as I've mentioned.

Secondly an old technology usually goes for less as time goes by.
So that is an outrageous claim all together.



I just want to mention, read again my precious reply that you quoted me,
I didn't tell you how to price your products that's your call not mine.
Once you brought up inflation and claiming it should be $1500, plus stating your opinion that old tech should cost the same. Then I did say my opinion as well.

Again I'm not fighting with you man, I see you as someone who can help me therefore to fight with you would be counterproductive.

@Topaz
I am completely lost as to why you're posting all this in my journal instead of your own.

I don't even follow what's going on cus it's confusing.

If you wanna talk about X4A-1511 fine but whatever you're talking about take it to your journal.

Thanks.

@Shannon 

Lately I feel I'm stonewalling and I don't understand why. 

below is my latest post and when you get time I'd like your opinion.

4 days into the break to wait on starting Money Magnet 5.11G I was kinda worried about losing the X4A-1511 effects so I got back on it.

The other day I went to eat where the twins work.

It was packed. Only 2 tables were open. I was directed to my crushes section.

My crush came and took my order and brought my drink. 

It was hot in the VIP section. I was initially alone in there but the other twin brought a customer back there.

So everyone was swamped. The other twin came and checked on her customer several times and even checked on me and asked How I am. She uses my name still.

My crush never came back to check on me. She talked to her other customers.

She stood at one table talking to those people.

I finished eating. Walked up to the kitchen and my crush asked do you want the ticket... and asked if I needed anything else.

I said yeah, sweet tea.. so I got that... I said thanks we said our cya later and I told other twin cya and she said cya be safe.

2 other girls have shown interest but we've only exchanged numbers so far.

I think I'm going to request the other twin next time.

Something seemed weird with all that.

Though the twins help one another a lot and she may have just been checking on me since there was just one customer aside from me back there.

It's not much of a report but a few friends say they think the twins behavior was odd and I need to switch to The other twin

I think that you should take the time to see what happens when you stop using X4A-1511, especially if you want to use something else.  Understanding the difference in what it is to have it affecting them, and not, is invaluable.  If they have come to like you, then it will be less sexual, but there will still be interest there.

[Diablojack00]

@Topaz
I am completely lost as to why you're posting all this in my journal instead of your own.

I don't even follow what's going on cus it's confusing.

If you wanna talk about X4A-1511 fine but whatever you're talking about take it to your journal.

Thanks.

@Shannon 

Lately I feel I'm stonewalling and I don't understand why. 

below is my latest post and when you get time I'd like your opinion.

4 days into the break to wait on starting Money Magnet 5.11G I was kinda worried about losing the X4A-1511 effects so I got back on it.

The other day I went to eat where the twins work.

It was packed. Only 2 tables were open. I was directed to my crushes section.

My crush came and took my order and brought my drink. 

It was hot in the VIP section. I was initially alone in there but the other twin brought a customer back there.

So everyone was swamped. The other twin came and checked on her customer several times and even checked on me and asked How I am. She uses my name still.

My crush never came back to check on me. She talked to her other customers.

She stood at one table talking to those people.

I finished eating. Walked up to the kitchen and my crush asked do you want the ticket... and asked if I needed anything else.

I said yeah, sweet tea.. so I got that... I said thanks we said our cya later and I told other twin cya and she said cya be safe.

2 other girls have shown interest but we've only exchanged numbers so far.

I think I'm going to request the other twin next time.

Something seemed weird with all that.

Though the twins help one another a lot and she may have just been checking on me since there was just one customer aside from me back there.

It's not much of a report but a few friends say they think the twins behavior was odd and I need to switch to The other twin

I think that you should take the time to see what happens when you stop using X4A-1511, especially if you want to use something else.  Understanding the difference in what it is to have it affecting them, and not, is invaluable.  If they have come to like you, then it will be less sexual, but there will still be interest there.

Alright I'll stop using X4A-1511 and see what happens.

Is Money Magnet 6G or UMSv3 coming out soon?

[Topaz]

Sorry I didn't mean to
Please accept my apologies.

Your run inspired me to try a higher tech attraction subliminal.

[Shannon]

I think that you should take the time to see what happens when you stop using X4A-1511, especially if you want to use something else.  Understanding the difference in what it is to have it affecting them, and not, is invaluable.  If they have come to like you, then it will be less sexual, but there will still be interest there.

Alright I'll stop using X4A-1511 and see what happens.

Is Money Magnet 6G or UMSv3 coming out soon?

I'm almost finished developing the 6G alpha test skeleton script, but it's going to be 2-3 months before the alpha test program is finished being tested.  Then I have to assess the results and figure out if it works as planned and make whatever adjustments are necessary or would improve it, and build the beta test and test that for 2-3 months, and then comes 6G-Release.  So 6G is likely around 4-6 months away still.

UMS v3 is going to be Stage 4 only.  You would still need to run stages 1-2-3 of v2 first.  I'm not entirely sure it's a good idea to build just stage 4 because of the confusion it would probably result in.  I can't spend the time and energy to develop the whole set in 5.11G, so it may or may not happen at all until 6G.  I need to think more on this.

[Diablojack00]

Sorry I didn't mean to
Please accept my apologies.

Your run inspired me to try a higher tech attraction subliminal.

It's okay, no worries. I just got confused. 

If you have any questions please feel free to ask.

[Topaz]

I do have few questions
1. Did you feel this flood of energy like on DMSI ?
2. Do you need to eat more like on DMSI?
3. Does the affects you have which are amazing to read btw, can stay after you stop using the program?
4. What side effects if any?
5. What benefits, maybe for example self esteem? Or belief change..?

If you have anything to add that can help I would be happy to know!

Thank you

[Diablojack00]

I do have few questions
1. Did you feel this flood of energy like on DMSI ?
2. Do you need to eat more like on DMSI?
3. Does the affects you have which are amazing to read btw, can stay after you stop using the program?
4. What side effects if any?
5. What benefits, maybe for example self esteem? Or belief change..?

If you have anything to add that can help I would be happy to know!

Thank you

1. X4A-1511 is in 5.11G so it's very subtle. I keep a chart of 5 days on and 3 off so I know I ran it.

2. I eat a lot in general because lift weights 6 days a week, but I've not noticed that I eat anymore or less.

3. I've only been off the X4A-1511 for 4 days before and it's recommended to wait 2 weeks before starting a new program. I'm not a break right now and I will try and answer this later on.

4. I haven't noticed any side effects unless you think attention from women 18-70 something is bad.

Keep in mind females are really good at hiding their interest. 

5. It does seem to help with confidence and probably self esteem. I struggled with both before X4A-1000 and X4A-1511.

X4A-1511 brings the self worth issues and all that to the surface so when ya feel unworthy or like hiding from girls and women that's the program doing it's job from how I understand it.

The only other thing I can add right now is that you run the program and forget about it.

X4A-1511 makes me walk around knowing any girl I'm attracted to is attracted to me. 

You still have to say Hi and talk to them but it does make things easier than not having the program.