It's alright, Shannon. And Sarge, Chaos, everyone. That discussion was interesting. I can resonate with some of it, indeed. Perhaps even a bit more of it, when I'm feeling negative. I'm humbled my posts mean so much that a lot of discussion happens as a result of them. I felt it necessary to post in the hopes that something can be gleamed from them for use in newer versions, and since it's like 3 weeks in and I don't think I've updated much. I hope soon I can report some progress for you, so it isn't always just bad news, I know Shannon works hard to make this program work.
And TheGreatAttractor, hi there, no I've never tried that before. I don't mean to break a forum rule, but in the spirit of answering a question to be considerate, I haven't done that because I don't believe in such a thing, myself. I respect those who do, but I personally don't. Besides, given my past and the very painful incidences with girls at such an age where a boy is just starting to get his sea legs with girls and somewhat more vulnerable to very painful incidences because he doesn't have the success with girls to balance it out to help him keep perspective and to spur onward somehow, that completely derailed me, I seem to already know the faces of my enemies, so to speak. They seem to have started the huge decline from baseline, then it became a constant tailspin without any positive momentum. That's my guess, anyway. I'd like to finally move on from that stage of development with girls. The rest is up to Shannon, I suppose. I hope it can happen, we'll see in time.
And to clarify, Chaos did have that correct, although I feel bad my words ended up causing an issue somewhat. I was using an example to show physical attraction from men to women, as men are primarily attracted to women aesthetically. So I used two women I know of that are far enough apart on an attraction scale to most men to set a standard for my thoughts, to recognise a marked difference between them at the start. And then, I wonder how any difference is made up as since the physical doesn't change on this program, I am still confused as to what the program actually does to make someone attractive. I know women aren't as bothered by a man's looks as we are by theirs (Apparently? But I've seen women act VERY thirsty over "hot" guys often so I have real doubts and think they like hot guys just like we like hot girls at the same intensity), but still if we are still "us" physically and facially etc., besides any internal things, I'm just not sure how it makes women around us become suddenly sexually attracted now and approach us for sex. As Shannon has mentioned before, part of the problem here is, to be brutally honest, that such a scenario, an attractive woman I know and am already attracted to, aggressively approaching me to have sex is about the furthest thing from my current reality as can be now, so it's very hard to imagine it's even possible. To use Chaos' analogy about no arms, it's like trying to imagine being the UFC Heavyweight Champion with no arms, seems delusional. It's a shame, but that's where my mind is at due to my reality. Furthermore, I don't understand how the program knows my "type", and reaches out to them around me, and makes them become attracted to me, and then approach me for sex. With the huge knowledge void there, I do tend to find it hard it can do anything for me. I understand it's all "trade secret", and I respect that, but it does make it hard to make such a massive leap of faith at times. I also know that Shannon has said that belief isn't required for the sub to work, but it would sure put me at ease to "get" some of the science behind it, although I know it's riddled with "trade secrets", so I try not to pry. What's also so strange, is the ZERO exhaustion I feel on this version, trust me, I'm so grateful for that alone, never mind anything else in the program. That was ruining my business life, so many days I slept all day long, 24 hours, or only be able to be up for a few hours only, then right back to zzz, ridiculous. So, to not have any exhaustion on this, after P5 from V3.0.1 petered out as early on there was a TINY bit, that should mean I'm executing then as no part of my mind is resisting as that would trigger the exhaustion of that part and surely I would tell that? I'm confused as to why the design goal isn't happening then, I always thought it would be exhaustion/resistance, or execution/design goal. Seem it's more complicated than that, I guess.
But...despite everything...I put my future possible sex life, in your hands, Shannon. You seem to be the most upfront and genuine of all the ones I've dealt with over the years offering products with the same kind of goal. It's refreshing. That counts for something with me.
Maybe someday, this program can help me grow arms, finally...
And TheGreatAttractor, hi there, no I've never tried that before. I don't mean to break a forum rule, but in the spirit of answering a question to be considerate, I haven't done that because I don't believe in such a thing, myself. I respect those who do, but I personally don't. Besides, given my past and the very painful incidences with girls at such an age where a boy is just starting to get his sea legs with girls and somewhat more vulnerable to very painful incidences because he doesn't have the success with girls to balance it out to help him keep perspective and to spur onward somehow, that completely derailed me, I seem to already know the faces of my enemies, so to speak. They seem to have started the huge decline from baseline, then it became a constant tailspin without any positive momentum. That's my guess, anyway. I'd like to finally move on from that stage of development with girls. The rest is up to Shannon, I suppose. I hope it can happen, we'll see in time.
And to clarify, Chaos did have that correct, although I feel bad my words ended up causing an issue somewhat. I was using an example to show physical attraction from men to women, as men are primarily attracted to women aesthetically. So I used two women I know of that are far enough apart on an attraction scale to most men to set a standard for my thoughts, to recognise a marked difference between them at the start. And then, I wonder how any difference is made up as since the physical doesn't change on this program, I am still confused as to what the program actually does to make someone attractive. I know women aren't as bothered by a man's looks as we are by theirs (Apparently? But I've seen women act VERY thirsty over "hot" guys often so I have real doubts and think they like hot guys just like we like hot girls at the same intensity), but still if we are still "us" physically and facially etc., besides any internal things, I'm just not sure how it makes women around us become suddenly sexually attracted now and approach us for sex. As Shannon has mentioned before, part of the problem here is, to be brutally honest, that such a scenario, an attractive woman I know and am already attracted to, aggressively approaching me to have sex is about the furthest thing from my current reality as can be now, so it's very hard to imagine it's even possible. To use Chaos' analogy about no arms, it's like trying to imagine being the UFC Heavyweight Champion with no arms, seems delusional. It's a shame, but that's where my mind is at due to my reality. Furthermore, I don't understand how the program knows my "type", and reaches out to them around me, and makes them become attracted to me, and then approach me for sex. With the huge knowledge void there, I do tend to find it hard it can do anything for me. I understand it's all "trade secret", and I respect that, but it does make it hard to make such a massive leap of faith at times. I also know that Shannon has said that belief isn't required for the sub to work, but it would sure put me at ease to "get" some of the science behind it, although I know it's riddled with "trade secrets", so I try not to pry. What's also so strange, is the ZERO exhaustion I feel on this version, trust me, I'm so grateful for that alone, never mind anything else in the program. That was ruining my business life, so many days I slept all day long, 24 hours, or only be able to be up for a few hours only, then right back to zzz, ridiculous. So, to not have any exhaustion on this, after P5 from V3.0.1 petered out as early on there was a TINY bit, that should mean I'm executing then as no part of my mind is resisting as that would trigger the exhaustion of that part and surely I would tell that? I'm confused as to why the design goal isn't happening then, I always thought it would be exhaustion/resistance, or execution/design goal. Seem it's more complicated than that, I guess.
But...despite everything...I put my future possible sex life, in your hands, Shannon. You seem to be the most upfront and genuine of all the ones I've dealt with over the years offering products with the same kind of goal. It's refreshing. That counts for something with me.
Maybe someday, this program can help me grow arms, finally...
