08-27-2015, 09:33 AM
This relates to SurferJoy's post HERE.
Good post and quote, thanks for those! I've just been thinking these last 2 days that I'd probably be really great for me to run WM2 instead of SM3, even if I only got the self-effects from it. I read my SM journal and I was surprised b/c I didn't even remember it worked so well (the first half of it anyway).. but it didn't really solve that negativity I have. Maybe it even created a lot of it. So.. I'm thinking SM would probably get me more "power" over women and sort of turn the tables (me into a hot girl).. but what good is power if there's still negativity? And you don't really "get" much from sex anyway in the long term, compared to really enjoying your life and interactions in general, gratitude, etc.
^^But yeah, meant to say that the quote above is definitely true, and on top of that if you go to night clubs and hit on girls, you're sure to come against some harsh negativity. There were multiple times when I was feeling really good for whatever reason and I'd casually go up to talk to some girl that maybe looked cute or whatever and basically their default expectation is that there must be something wrong with this dude ("ugh, this must be another drunk horny asshole as the rest of them", or "I feel bad, it must be his fault", or just "I'm hot, men are my bitches") Yeah, I'd laugh it off each time and its not like I was hurt by it, but it began to pile into a want to just flip a finger at the whole gender. Except, of course, for the ones I already knew who were sweethearts - "normal" and who showed me normal, decent respect.
Maybe its just me, but I think some of that AM/SM/WM content of not accepting any shit is partly making things worse, because a lot of women just give shit as default. Of course this is much less of an issue in more "normal" environments, but access is the issue for me there (medium-small city, already graduated from university). Seems like only middle-aged and up women even go to hobbies, the younger ones mostly go to the gym, which imo is a similar anti-social posing ground than clubs. Love the gym, but its not pro-social. Atm I won't go to clubs b/c I'm expecting bitches and that makes me feel negative (which would make them bitchy). I can't even do Tinder or online dating either atm; why should I "come up with something clever & unique" when I haven't even met the chick? I'm supposed to be all eager and excited just because she's a woman? Blah.
I'll try clearing on that^^. Its just that its a little too below-the-surface, where I can't quite latch onto it firmly enough to let it go atm. How do you do an affirmation like the one you wrote with Sedona? I just use the 3 questions to release.
Have you considered WM2? I feel very drawn to OF, but I'm thinking it'd deserve a good 6 months to sink in.. that's the same as a magnet "costs" time-wise.
CatMan, buddy, in case you happen to read this, can you relate in some way? Its just that it came to mind that I think you started posting on some, let's say anti-feminist stuff some time ago and credited SM.. and then you were also wondering why your female relationships are deteriorating. Just thought maybe the negative thoughts could be affecting that? But you'll know it yourself, this is just an idea.
(08-26-2015, 12:53 PM)SurferJoy Wrote: We are constantly bombarded by negative images from the media, whether it be movies, TV, magazines and other formats that to "some" degree, women either do not like men, dislike male attention, are uninterested in meeting new people or are taken.
Good post and quote, thanks for those! I've just been thinking these last 2 days that I'd probably be really great for me to run WM2 instead of SM3, even if I only got the self-effects from it. I read my SM journal and I was surprised b/c I didn't even remember it worked so well (the first half of it anyway).. but it didn't really solve that negativity I have. Maybe it even created a lot of it. So.. I'm thinking SM would probably get me more "power" over women and sort of turn the tables (me into a hot girl).. but what good is power if there's still negativity? And you don't really "get" much from sex anyway in the long term, compared to really enjoying your life and interactions in general, gratitude, etc.
^^But yeah, meant to say that the quote above is definitely true, and on top of that if you go to night clubs and hit on girls, you're sure to come against some harsh negativity. There were multiple times when I was feeling really good for whatever reason and I'd casually go up to talk to some girl that maybe looked cute or whatever and basically their default expectation is that there must be something wrong with this dude ("ugh, this must be another drunk horny asshole as the rest of them", or "I feel bad, it must be his fault", or just "I'm hot, men are my bitches") Yeah, I'd laugh it off each time and its not like I was hurt by it, but it began to pile into a want to just flip a finger at the whole gender. Except, of course, for the ones I already knew who were sweethearts - "normal" and who showed me normal, decent respect.
Maybe its just me, but I think some of that AM/SM/WM content of not accepting any shit is partly making things worse, because a lot of women just give shit as default. Of course this is much less of an issue in more "normal" environments, but access is the issue for me there (medium-small city, already graduated from university). Seems like only middle-aged and up women even go to hobbies, the younger ones mostly go to the gym, which imo is a similar anti-social posing ground than clubs. Love the gym, but its not pro-social. Atm I won't go to clubs b/c I'm expecting bitches and that makes me feel negative (which would make them bitchy). I can't even do Tinder or online dating either atm; why should I "come up with something clever & unique" when I haven't even met the chick? I'm supposed to be all eager and excited just because she's a woman? Blah.
I'll try clearing on that^^. Its just that its a little too below-the-surface, where I can't quite latch onto it firmly enough to let it go atm. How do you do an affirmation like the one you wrote with Sedona? I just use the 3 questions to release.
Have you considered WM2? I feel very drawn to OF, but I'm thinking it'd deserve a good 6 months to sink in.. that's the same as a magnet "costs" time-wise.
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CatMan, buddy, in case you happen to read this, can you relate in some way? Its just that it came to mind that I think you started posting on some, let's say anti-feminist stuff some time ago and credited SM.. and then you were also wondering why your female relationships are deteriorating. Just thought maybe the negative thoughts could be affecting that? But you'll know it yourself, this is just an idea.
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