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[robstar]

Caffeine is bad for your prostate.

You mean how coffee consumption reduces prostate cancer risk? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21586702

robstar, is that really how accurately you check your "valid studies"?

You know, coffee and caffeine are not the same. We're talking about caffeine here and your study excludes caffeine regarding any potentially beneficial health effects.

Coffee contains many biologically active compounds, including caffeine and phenolic acids, that have potent antioxidant activity and can affect glucose metabolism and sex hormone levels

Follow-up Study who reported intake of regular and decaffeinated coffee in 1986 and every 4 years thereafter.

The inverse association with lethal cancer was similar for regular and decaffeinated coffee

CONCLUSIONS: We observed a strong inverse association between coffee consumption and risk of lethal prostate cancer. The association appears to be related to non-caffeine components of coffee.

You haven't even read the very same study you linked in here but complain when people don't take the time to back up every little nutritional "anecdote" with "valid studies" on a subliminal forum?

I don't know about anybody else, but I have better things to do with my time than proving every nutritional advice to users on a sub forum who probably couldn't care less. If somebody asks me or if it is relevant to the discussion I gladly contribute what I have learnt throughout the years about nurturing myself, but I won't take the time to backup everything scientifically that's not what I'm here for. (especially since often counter studies exist, and how "valid" most studies are is another discussion entirely. I have seen too much misuse of selective funding of studies and seen people too easily accept any study as "valid")

If it bothers people that my nutritional advice is only anecdotal, I gladly shut up. I don't lose anything by that. I already know what works for me, just thought it'd be nice to share if I see somebody who could make use of that knowledge. I assumed if somebody is really interested he'd take my anecdotes as a basis to research it for himself properly and on forums where this is the main discussion.

Of course, studies are important and it takes time to backup your claims properly. I rather not post anything at all before I have to spend that time on a sub forum. You can see here in robstars case if you rush it you make mistakes even in such simple caffeine discussions, what do you think how careful you have to be when you're talking about mineral and hormonal correlations like magnesium and testosterone?

Caffeine can't generate energy and alertness out of nothing. It is just a another trigger for your body to use the rescources it already has to generate that energy. Often there is a reason why a healthy body decided to save up and hasn't triggered the consumption of those rescources yet so it puts you into a sleepy state. But with caffeine you can force your body into overdrive against its will. In this case it'll tax your adrenals and cause adrenal fatigue long term. Where are the studies? Go find them yourself. If you're too lazy to do that you can also feel free to not beleive anything I say. I don't care.

I'm well aware that caffeine and coffee are not the same thing. However if coffee can potentially reduce prostate cancer risk, I think its a safe conclusion to make that caffeine cannot be significantly bad for your prostate, considering coffee contains caffeine.
Well I appreciate the freedom to not believe what you say, which is what I will do.. as in all my time researching caffeine because of people who have told me "its not good for you, you'll get adrenal fatigue!" I have not found a single thing to prove that true, unless we're talking about very high (600mg+) daily doses. So if you can point me to one of those studies I'm all ears, otherwise I will continue to be a moderate caffeine user and feel awesome.
Anyway my point is none of us should be believing what some other dudes on a forum say, without doing our own research. And yes, Maniac360 saying that caffeine isn't good for your sex drive, as if its some indisputable fact, bothered me a little. So I apologise for being snarky.
Sorry Lionking