Aventus's DMSI v2.3 Journal

[Acmeisto]

Sounds like this. You are chickening out.

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-7753.html

Generally, when you start using a subliminal that seriously conflicts with something you have in your subconscious programming, the subconscious will attempt to get you to change to something else in order to escape having to change it's programming, deal with some fear, or face something that is painful.

It is resistance. Trying to prevent change for one or more of those reasons.

[4Kingdoms]

Sounds like this. You are chickening out.

Please no reason for name calling...
There are others listening to 2.3 that are having similar thoughts...
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-4807-p...#pid128898

2. The feeling that either: girls aren't worth what I've spent on them in time, energy and money like they're off their pedestals. Or it's a fear causing that feeling, or the sub is creating an abundance mindset/outcome independence, or feeling jaded and that it's futile to keep going after them, I'm not sure which one it is, or if it's a combo. Regardless, since starting V2.3, I've seen drastically lower interest in women and sex. Drastically. I'm not nearly as interested anymore. So much so that I feel it's pointless to continue now, that maybe it was all neediness and external validation that made me feel that way I have for women for so long, and that has been removed by V2.3, and maybe I should go back to E2 long term, as this feels like somewhat of a waste of time for the reasons mentioned. I'm a bit confused that a sub designed to do this, can cause such a lowering of interest in women/sex. It seems to be an indirect effect, stemming from one of the issues I mentioned, probably. I've seen others think the same thoughts, and stop DMSI and go to E2 or AM6. So I thought it'd be of value to mention, because I don't seem to be unique with this situation. I don't think I had the same feeling on V2.2, I wanted girls/sex, but felt it was futile to continue largely because I didn't think the results bore out, not knowing about the script error at the time, of course. With V2.3, it seems to be a deeper feeling, so I feel this is a direct effect of V2.3.

CRAZY. I literally just writing in my offline journal (like 10 minutes ago) that DMSI is making me question why I'm pursuing women so hard and that I have this incredible urge to quit and run BASE 4g + UM because they aren't worth it.

It was triggered by hearing one of my friends tell me that he had to sell his PlayStation 4 because his live-in girlfriend decided that she no longer "likes people who game." I'm like, dude, she's only saying that because she wants you to give her ALL of your attention ALL the time. You're a grown man, live your life. And he's like, yeah I know, but I gotta "make the boss happy."

Disgusting. I just thought to myself, now women are making it a requirement that we give all of our attention to them or we can't get laid? Screw that. BASE and BAMM it is!

I wonder if the removal of the healing is causing this effect. Because it's not there, we're growing in confidence and our natural reaction is, "ew, woman... no. Money and success, YES!" If the healing were there, we'd be a bit more inclined to accept them, rather than reject 'em.

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-7872-p...#pid128899

Codex updated to include latest development:

* Users are reporting a strong desire to quit DMSI -- and pursuing women in general -- in exchange for personal development subs, like E2 or AM6 (in my case, BASE 4g + UM).

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-7872-p...#pid128683

[wolverine_i_am]

I've had moments where I wanted to switch to E2 as well. But I'm definitely persisting with the attraction subs.

[Acmeisto]

Basically, people fear of being great with women and they rationalize their fear by saying "Women are not worth it better to do something else"...

Come on, I paid for this product and I will test it out no matter what at least 90 days. Push through, go out to get some chicks and have fun. Otherwise, you just wasted 120 dollars due to one fear.

[RTBoss]

Basically, people fear of being great with women and they rationalize their fear by saying "Women are not worth it better to do something else"...

Come on, I paid for this product and I will test it out no matter what at least 90 days. Push through, go out to get some chicks and have fun. Otherwise, you just wasted 120 dollars due to one fear.

I will admit that for me, it was a surprising feeling to know a woman (in my case, women I have known for years) are suddenly looking at me as a piece of sexual man-meat and then feel bad about it. I was like, "WTF!? This is what I have always wanted, and now that I'm getting it, I'm feeling bad or fearful about it!?" Something wrong there, and I want to work through it.

[Acmeisto]

Well, being great with women is all sunshine and rainbows there are some downsides too:

- Ugly and fat women hitting you constantly
- Sleep deprivation due to having too much sex
- Exhaustion due to (you will figure it out)
- Witnessing crazy events related to women and going out
- Need to take care of women's drama.
- STD and women claiming that you are her baby's father...
- Taking risks
- Figuring out logistics and avoiding jealous boyfriends
- Figuring out how to be in two places at the same time...
- Handling crazy chicks

No wonder when people are seeing some downsides they will face new fears...

[Aventus45]

At least I have you guys for accountability. Lol

[chaosvrgn]

I see both sides of the argument. If Aventus wants to work on his deeper issues, though, don't shame him for it. Keep in mind that OE might be guiding him to run E2 first.

I'm definitely going to finish the 32 days -- for a FACT -- before moving on. And since I have no plans of running a six-stager any time soon, I'll be able to jump back into testing at any time.

RTBoss is right though -- v1 was a very shocking experience. Like I said, I would get so freaked out by the female attention that I would end up hiding in the house for a few days.

[Aventus45]

Going to continue run DMSI until Shannon can perfect it. Or until the end of the year. I'll also focus more on my hobbies( photography) and overcoming some of my problems. Best compromise until I lock my self with e2