Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Shannon]

@Shannon: Are there any plans to upgrade also OGSF to 5G? If so, is there a chance to add something more specific related to GSF regarding women/sex? Or maybe building another OGSF version related to women and sex? It looks like many people have issues here (me included), and I saw an OF testimonial where a guy got good results besides the area around sex/women. It could cover the topic(s) in general as well as even more specific stuff like GSF regarding looking at women, seeing women in a sexual way, touching women, having sex with them, becoming aroused due to women, feeling the arousal, etc. I think you get the picture.

I plan on upgrading everything to the best possible version of itself. The question is, when will I get the chance?

As for upgrading that title, it seems like a good idea. But why does it need to focus on one area when we don't know how that one area is interconnected with everything else within a person's psychological makeup and it changes with every person?

Sometimes, a specific area of focus is going to need more work, but in my experience, more often than not you have what I refer to as "spiderweb theory" at work. I don't think I have explained "spiderweb theory" before, so here goes.

In all spiderwebs, you have at least three anchor points, and more often than not, five or even more. This is is similar to what I have discovered to be true with psychological issues. There are multiple "anchor points" and they are all interconnected and intersupportive. Cut any one of the strands that forms an anchor point, and the web still exists; sooner or later, the "spider" (subconscious) will regenerate that anchor point when effort aimed at severing it stops, partly because those other anchor points still exist and still indirectly support that reality.

Therefore, the effective approach must be to sever ALL anchor points simultaneously. When this happens, the entire web collapses. Once the whole web collapses, it can be replaced with a different web using different anchor points, and those can be positive.

This is a big part of why certain issues are so challenging to deal with, like weight loss, stop smoking, alpha male, sex magnet, etc. Basically I have to somehow know what each and every one of those anchor points (supporting and involved issues) is, how to "sever" it, and how to get you to cooperate in actually doing so, and then do so all at once and recreate the "web" in a new way. That's no easy task, let me tell you.

This is precisely why 6G is being worked on, and precisely why it is so complex and taking so long to create. The target goal for the prototype is so challenging and complex that when I started working on it, I did not believe it was actually possible to achieve. I only started working on it because a special adviser of mine told me that I was capable of achieving it and that would only become a reality if I was willing to pursue the goal until it became a reality, regardless of any and all doubts or opposition I might face. Since I trust this particular man with my life, and I know he knows what he's talking about and has never let me down or led me stray when it mattered, I trusted that he was right, and began working. 14+ months later I am still working, but now I can clearly see that he was absolutely right.

This goal was chosen because basically if I can achieve it, I should be able, with enough understanding and tuning, to achieve virtually anything else. And, because it has the most "anchor points" of any target goal I could think of, and therefore is most useful in unraveling how to achieve virtually any other goal.

Anyway, back to my original point, it is better to approach all possible anchor points than to focus on one because the rest may regenerate that one area of issue if they are not also transformed.

[Shannon]

they're not a magic pill to make your life better. It takes action to create real change.

I see this argument a lot and it doesn't make sense to me. Sure action is Definitely very important and will get you results (esp with women, that front seems to be the area where you need to take more action while using subs) but I think its not entirely true.

Do you need action to get results with OF? Do you need action for the AYP's? If you can manifest a freaking girl into your life what makes you so sure that subs can't change our inner beliefs?

I'm a completely different person than I was 6 months ago and did I take action to achieve it? No.

I'm not saying action is a bad thing, on the contrary I recommend it. I don't want guys thinking that the sub will handle everything, cause thats a bad mindset. But its partially true.

I forgot what else I wanted to say and even forgot my point. This seems to be an affect of AM6, I think less and can't force myself to think hard anymore. I'll just post it as it is, whatever.

At some level and in some way, you always have to take action, because let's face it: accepting and then executing the script is a pair of actions. So you always need action in some way and at some level, but you don't always need physical or external action. However, the goal in a lot of cases is not going to be reached if you hide in your bedroom playing video games. So when you want to achieve a goal you wish to achieve that cannot be achieved merely by cooperating and executing the script internally, you must allow yourself to and then actually take the necessary physical action.

In cases where this does not happen, it is usually a resistance to instructions in the script, because the script will always direct you to take whatever actions are necessary to achieve the desired goal(s).

[Shannon]

I can't answer questions I don't see, gentlemen. So if you want them answered, ask them. But if Ryan is choosing to behave in a manner unbecoming of a welcomed guest to these forums, we are not going to allow it to disrupt the forums any more than we would allow anyone else to do so.

[heavysm]

You keep reminding me, and we'll see what we can do. There's such a blizzard of stuff going on that it's hard to maintain a straight path without constant reminders.

Shall i do periodic reminders for All-in-one Writers 5G? (i believe this is just a matter of combining the old 3G subs?)

I don't mind late 2016 or whatever launch, but I'd like for it to be within a few years, if possible.

[FluffyBunny]

@Shannon: Are there any plans to upgrade also OGSF to 5G? If so, is there a chance to add something more specific related to GSF regarding women/sex? Or maybe building another OGSF version related to women and sex? It looks like many people have issues here (me included), and I saw an OF testimonial where a guy got good results besides the area around sex/women. It could cover the topic(s) in general as well as even more specific stuff like GSF regarding looking at women, seeing women in a sexual way, touching women, having sex with them, becoming aroused due to women, feeling the arousal, etc. I think you get the picture.

I plan on upgrading everything to the best possible version of itself. The question is, when will I get the chance?

As for upgrading that title, it seems like a good idea. But why does it need to focus on one area when we don't know how that one area is interconnected with everything else within a person's psychological makeup and it changes with every person?

Sometimes, a specific area of focus is going to need more work, but in my experience, more often than not you have what I refer to as "spiderweb theory" at work. I don't think I have explained "spiderweb theory" before, so here goes.

In all spiderwebs, you have at least three anchor points, and more often than not, five or even more. This is is similar to what I have discovered to be true with psychological issues. There are multiple "anchor points" and they are all interconnected and intersupportive. Cut any one of the strands that forms an anchor point, and the web still exists; sooner or later, the "spider" (subconscious) will regenerate that anchor point when effort aimed at severing it stops, partly because those other anchor points still exist and still indirectly support that reality.

Therefore, the effective approach must be to sever ALL anchor points simultaneously. When this happens, the entire web collapses. Once the whole web collapses, it can be replaced with a different web using different anchor points, and those can be positive.

This is a big part of why certain issues are so challenging to deal with, like weight loss, stop smoking, alpha male, sex magnet, etc. Basically I have to somehow know what each and every one of those anchor points (supporting and involved issues) is, how to "sever" it, and how to get you to cooperate in actually doing so, and then do so all at once and recreate the "web" in a new way. That's no easy task, let me tell you.

This is precisely why 6G is being worked on, and precisely why it is so complex and taking so long to create. The target goal for the prototype is so challenging and complex that when I started working on it, I did not believe it was actually possible to achieve. I only started working on it because a special adviser of mine told me that I was capable of achieving it and that would only become a reality if I was willing to pursue the goal until it became a reality, regardless of any and all doubts or opposition I might face. Since I trust this particular man with my life, and I know he knows what he's talking about and has never let me down or led me stray when it mattered, I trusted that he was right, and began working. 14+ months later I am still working, but now I can clearly see that he was absolutely right.

This goal was chosen because basically if I can achieve it, I should be able, with enough understanding and tuning, to achieve virtually anything else. And, because it has the most "anchor points" of any target goal I could think of, and therefore is most useful in unraveling how to achieve virtually any other goal.

Anyway, back to my original point, it is better to approach all possible anchor points than to focus on one because the rest may regenerate that one area of issue if they are not also transformed.

Hey Shannon i got few questions on the anchor points

For anchors points such as alpha male.

1. Should we identify ourselves what our anchor points are and consciously take them out? (As in being vigilant about our behaviour when ever we do something beta and correct it )

2. How do we know what our own anchor points are? is it base off of fear? for example if i am afraid of doing something, is that an indication of having an anchor point there?

3. Since i just finish running am6 few days ago. And i can see my behaviour shift does that mean some things are regenerating ? How do i identify which are the good behaviours that are balancing out (aka being between the spectrum Alpha male and who i am in the core) and which ones are the bad behaviour (beta male) that are resurfacing ?

For example : lets say now i am joking around more with girls, and being less "one directional alpha person" . Technically speaking its hard to say is it really more alpha or less alpha behaviour cause it stems from the intent....
So how do we truly identify ourselves?

Thanks

[Shannon]

Could you add WM to your list to upgrade? I know a lot of guys who said they wish that WM was as powerful as SM. A lot of those guys ended up running SM instead. Would it be a good idea to ugrade WM soon or just wait till its 6g version can be made (if six stagers are possible in 6g).

Also your post about action I agree with.

All three are in queue for eventual upgrade. It's just a matter of when is the time right.

Btw do you think that running OF 5g for 6 months would help with resistance (generally, I know you don't know me personally) and help AM6 be accepted better, or do you think that if I just ran AM6 a ridiculous amount of times it would keep attacking the issue without letting it regrow its anchor points? I notice I'm doing stuff that AM6 is directing me to do but my old negative emotions come up while doing them. Like my speech patterns are more harsh but then I feel bad while I'm talking to somebody, like I'm being rude to them.

That depends on how much fear you have. If it's interfering with achieving the goals of the program significantly when you have finished running AM6, then OF 5G would be a good long term investment.

Or to kind of shorten my question for clarity:

Is it more effective and faster generally to keep running AM6 to achieve its points, or is it a good idea to use a different program (OF 5g in my case) to kind of augment results.

I ask because there are two different patterns I could see working.

1. keep attacking the issue. Its just better to hammer away at it and not give it time to regrow or stagnate so that you get maximum growth.

2. take a break and focus on another area that could help the goal when you come back to it, and give it some time so as to attack from a different angle when you return. (most users on this forum seem to do this approach, changing subs all the time)

Like a guy using AM6 5 times straight vs a guy using AM6 then OF5g(6months) then AM6 3 or 4 times (whichever makes it equal in terms of listening time)

Generally it is going to depend on what the anchor point issues are, and how much they are strengthened and regenerated by fear. If the fear is sufficient to empower them against AM and the results are not satisfactory compared to what you see others getting per run, OF is probably a good choice.

[Dubls]

Could you add WM to your list to upgrade? I know a lot of guys who said they wish that WM was as powerful as SM. A lot of those guys ended up running SM instead. Would it be a good idea to ugrade WM soon or just wait till its 6g version can be made (if six stagers are possible in 6g).

Also your post about action I agree with.

Btw do you think that running OF 5g for 6 months would help with resistance (generally, I know you don't know me personally) and help AM6 be accepted better, or do you think that if I just ran AM6 a ridiculous amount of times it would keep attacking the issue without letting it regrow its anchor points? I notice I'm doing stuff that AM6 is directing me to do but my old negative emotions come up while doing them. Like my speech patterns are more harsh but then I feel bad while I'm talking to somebody, like I'm being rude to them.

Or to kind of shorten my question for clarity:

Is it more effective and faster generally to keep running AM6 to achieve its points, or is it a good idea to use a different program (OF 5g in my case) to kind of augment results.

I ask because there are two different patterns I could see working.

1. keep attacking the issue. Its just better to hammer away at it and not give it time to regrow or stagnate so that you get maximum growth.

2. take a break and focus on another area that could help the goal when you come back to it, and give it some time so as to attack from a different angle when you return. (most users on this forum seem to do this approach, changing subs all the time)

Like a guy using AM6 5 times straight vs a guy using AM6 then OF5g(6months) then AM6 3 or 4 times (whichever makes it equal in terms of listening time)

Shannon will you give you his answer, but this applies to my situation right now.

In two months, I'll complete my second consecutive run of AM6. I planned to do a third consecutive run, but I've decided against it because devoting 4 of my waking hours each day to this program for almost a year has limited my social life. What's more relevant to you is the following:

I believe there is merit to using single stage programs to enhance or pave the way for multi stage programs. Sounds like you're thinking of preceding your first run of AM6 with OF. I plan on putting at least 6 months of ASC between my 2nd and third runs of AM6, not just for the break, but because AM6 helped me to identify that the root of all my major hangups is confidence. So don't underestimate the ability of a program like AM6 to reveal issues that need specific attention.

[Shannon]

You keep reminding me, and we'll see what we can do. There's such a blizzard of stuff going on that it's hard to maintain a straight path without constant reminders.

Shall i do periodic reminders for All-in-one Writers 5G? (i believe this is just a matter of combining the old 3G subs?)

I don't mind late 2016 or whatever launch, but I'd like for it to be within a few years, if possible.

Fire away. The more it's in front of my eyes, the more likely it is to get my attention and action.

[Shannon]

[snip]
Hey Shannon i got few questions on the anchor points

For anchors points such as alpha male.

1. Should we identify ourselves what our anchor points are and consciously take them out? (As in being vigilant about our behaviour when ever we do something beta and correct it )

If you can, conscious effort to do that is very helpful in enhancing and supporting the subconscious effort usually. But not every anchoring point is going to be something you are consciously aware of.

2. How do we know what our own anchor points are? is it base off of fear? for example if i am afraid of doing something, is that an indication of having an anchor point there?

It is not easy to know what all the anchor points are consciously. Almost invariably they will be based in fear, according to my research. So just trace back the fear as far as you can and that should help. But without an advanced understanding of the subconscious, it's hard to do that in a lot of cases.

Anchor points are intersupportive issues that help form the whole of "what is". So for example, with weight as an issue, insecurity (fear) is often an anchor point, low self esteem (fear of not being good enough), poor self body image (fear of not being attractive enough), anxiety (fear of something in particular that us subconsciously triggered but may or may not be consciously understood), control issues (fear of being vulnerable if one is not in control), and of course there can be a variety of triggers that are associations which are programmed, such as the association with eating to being loved, cared about, safe, taken care of, valued, etc. or being overweight to being safe, protected, unattractive enough to prevent XYZ from happening, big enough to prevent XYZ from happening, etc.

Some of these make no logical sense, but the subconscious mind understands them perfectly. For this reason, it may be that the real anchor point is too deeply buried subconsciously to understand without effort, or it is too illogical for the logical mind to easily trace without advanced understanding of the subconscious and oneself in specific.

3. Since i just finish running am6 few days ago. And i can see my behaviour shift does that mean some things are regenerating ? How do i identify which are the good behaviours that are balancing out (aka being between the spectrum Alpha male and who i am in the core) and which ones are the bad behaviour (beta male) that are resurfacing ?

For example : lets say now i am joking around more with girls, and being less "one directional alpha person" . Technically speaking its hard to say is it really more alpha or less alpha behaviour cause it stems from the intent....
So how do we truly identify ourselves?

Thanks

When you finish a program, you're going to see two things happen generally while you rest. First, any remaining anchor points will attempt to regenerate and reassert themselves, and second, the programming that has been installed will attempt to manifest as the subconscious no longer has to focus on input comprehension, processing and storage.

How they balance out will depend on how long you rest, and how strong each one is. If you see, after a week or two, anchor points from pre-run reasserting themselves, then you either need to remove that particular anchor point (if it's only one left), and/or re-run the whole program.

[Shannon]

So every time I think I have Paradise right, I eventually find something that's not right with it while I am testing it. We're up to formula version #202 now. But that said, I have the ideas for how to adjust it. Unfortunately, lately I have not had the time to work on it, since I am working on four subs right now.

It's funny because my friends in the food service industry are upset, since I have been working so much lately that I don't see them very often anymore, and when I do have to go out to eat (because going home to eat when I am that low on blood sugar would be too tempting for me to stop working and start doing something useless) they are disappointed because I don't have new fragrance samples for them to explore. C'est la vie.

I have the two final ingredients for Paradise now, but again... must wait. Not like it was any major draw since nobody but me has smelled it.

I'm having a good time being productive with subs, though. Kind of feels like I have somehow escaped some sort of lead blanket and now I can be active again.

[Benjamin]

Shannon is OF 5g going to just be the same script but in 5g or have you come up with other things to add or modify for it?

I don't really want to delay WM or SM more but I know that fear is a BIG thing holding me back from full expression, even during AM6.

[Shannon]

I'm wondering if or when this company is going to become mainstream. With 6g? 7g? A program that produces groundbreaking results that are obvious for even the harshest skeptics? SM4...I can see the headlines now.

We will probably get noticed by the media sometime in 2016 or 2017, according to the predictive models. At that point, the sky is the limit. It will very likely be as a result of what 6G programming can accomplish. Probably something along the lines of pain relief, sleep aid, something more generally desired and useful to the public as a whole.

We are already starting to gear up for that, but progress isn't as fast as I wish it were just yet.

[Shannon]

Shannon is OF 5g going to just be the same script but in 5g or have you come up with other things to add or modify for it?

I don't really want to delay WM or SM more but I know that fear is a BIG thing holding me back from full expression, even during AM6.

OF is going to get a strip down and rebuild from the ground up, with additions. That's what I'm working on now, actually. Every time I rebuild or upgrade something, I try to make it as capable as I know how to within it's designated generation of build format.

[Breeze]

Hey, Shannon, I was wondering if you could present us more options with masked tracks in the future subs? Like, Rainfall w/ thunder, or crackling fire. That would be awesome.