Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Cozy]

I understand Shannon, maybe you can ignore other people's judgments one or twice, but when you're constantly around people who misunderstand or criticize you, eventually you'll crack, it's just human nature.

I know the kind of person you're talking about, a person who makes their own rules and always has a high opinion of themselves, but even they have their limits, if they're in a group setting they will be influenced and change their actions to avoid criticism.

You can't avoid human nature, it would be best just to work with it.

Errr...then I would change the people I'm around and find more like minded friends.

Regarding my friends, this has happened to me and I simply made the decision to move away from those people i once resonated with and connect with people who share similar goals (speaking just of the friends side of this situation).

Also, strong spirited people generally don't change their behavior to suit those around them. Being who they are naturally helps them attract those they get along with anyway. Otherwise they're just pandering to people they may not want to be around. It really doesn't make sense that a strong assertive person would change their ways to suit the opinions of others. That's what makes them strong and assertive; they are unwilling to adjust themselves to work within a level of behavior that they disagree with. Weak spirited people, maybe. Strong spirited? Nope.

One personal example I'll share is my own family. There isn't a trace of entrepreneurial ambition that i can find aside from myself, and it's always rough talking to them about any of my stuff. But I have somehow kept my course despite a wave of criticism and constant judgement.

This wasn't being resistant to their judgements once or twice...but for decades, and from multiple family members who are 10000% convinced they are right and i am wrong. But i know who i am and what i want, so they can't touch that. They aren't going to sway my core values since they're so off track from where I'm at.

If your last sentence was really true I would have given in and slogged away at a job like what they keep hammering at me, and I'd be in the same boat they are. But that hasn't happened. Despite their best efforts, I have yet to 'crack'

Well my situation is just like yours lol, I've yet to crack but that's only because I've managed to avoid them. I'd also be lying though, if I said their attitudes and beliefs hasn't effected me, however brief or minor.

Finding friends and acquaintances who share your values is an example of working with human nature, to be honest I'm not sure if those people were around or if someone hadn't inspired you, you'd be able to break free. I know my ability to break free was because of the way I was treated as kid (my family basically treated me like a king), that always stuck with me and I probably wouldn't be who I am today if wasn't for that, maybe in your case it was one person or a group of people who inspired you. But there's always a trace, we aren't so defiant for no reason, we don't think we can do it without an inspiration.

It's unavoidable, external validation not only shapes us as kids, it defines what we think is acceptable and achievable, in more than one area. Going against this is a struggle only few go through, but never fully overcome, even if they become completely successful in their endeavours.

Given the fact that any meaning derived from anything is created in your own mind, one could argue that there is no such thing as external validation as it is all created internally anyway. When someone loves you, you don't literally feel their love, your brain creates a feeling based on what you believe that means. That's also why there are depressed people who feel completely unloved despite the fact that people love them. With the realisation of this, as well as the realisation that we control our own minds, one can begin to completely disregard external validation, as it only means what we think it means anyway.

Well any sort of calculation we make like that is still based on and dependent on our experience with others, and I don't think the solution is to interpret every social cue as a positive value assessment on the part of others, you can do that, but you'll probably end up in the mental hospital, or labelled weird.

[Cozy]

Indeed, most require some form of external validation. I think the real issue is how much external validation is it that you require in order to continue to survive and move forward. A person who almost exclusively relies on external validation in order to feel good about themselves is going to get f*cked in the ass (metaphorically speaking :P) because if they need (keyword: need) near constant external validation then they're going to be in serious trouble. So if your argument is everyone needs/requires external validation at some point...then yeah I'd say you have a good argument on your hands.

But again, some of the biggest advancements we've had in history politically, socially, economically, technologically and in terms of sports has come from people who had enough conviction and self validation to persevere through severe droughts of external validation. Jackie Robinson (first African American to play in Major League Baseball) had a metric shit-ton of people providing him with no external validation. Of course he had support from key people (external validation) which no doubt helped him along. But without sufficient internal validation (knowing that he was a great player even if people called him the N-word or whatever) he would have quit like everyone else. You can switch Jackie Robinson around with some other historical figure that had to endure heaps doubters, nay-sayers, and whatever before they got external validation (if ever).

Many people are indeed shaped by external validation absolutely. But I would argue (and I'm sure others would as well) that eventually it becomes necessary for the sake of peace of mind to reduce the amount of external validation required to such a point that you can live your life happily relying mainly and heavily (although not necessarily exclusively) on your own self-validation.

Agreed

[robstar]

I understand Shannon, maybe you can ignore other people's judgments one or twice, but when you're constantly around people who misunderstand or criticize you, eventually you'll crack, it's just human nature.

I know the kind of person you're talking about, a person who makes their own rules and always has a high opinion of themselves, but even they have their limits, if they're in a group setting they will be influenced and change their actions to avoid criticism.

You can't avoid human nature, it would be best just to work with it.

Errr...then I would change the people I'm around and find more like minded friends.

Regarding my friends, this has happened to me and I simply made the decision to move away from those people i once resonated with and connect with people who share similar goals (speaking just of the friends side of this situation).

Also, strong spirited people generally don't change their behavior to suit those around them. Being who they are naturally helps them attract those they get along with anyway. Otherwise they're just pandering to people they may not want to be around. It really doesn't make sense that a strong assertive person would change their ways to suit the opinions of others. That's what makes them strong and assertive; they are unwilling to adjust themselves to work within a level of behavior that they disagree with. Weak spirited people, maybe. Strong spirited? Nope.

One personal example I'll share is my own family. There isn't a trace of entrepreneurial ambition that i can find aside from myself, and it's always rough talking to them about any of my stuff. But I have somehow kept my course despite a wave of criticism and constant judgement.

This wasn't being resistant to their judgements once or twice...but for decades, and from multiple family members who are 10000% convinced they are right and i am wrong. But i know who i am and what i want, so they can't touch that. They aren't going to sway my core values since they're so off track from where I'm at.

If your last sentence was really true I would have given in and slogged away at a job like what they keep hammering at me, and I'd be in the same boat they are. But that hasn't happened. Despite their best efforts, I have yet to 'crack'

Well my situation is just like yours lol, I've yet to crack but that's only because I've managed to avoid them. I'd also be lying though, if I said their attitudes and beliefs hasn't effected me, however brief or minor.

Finding friends and acquaintances who share your values is an example of working with human nature, to be honest I'm not sure if those people were around or if someone hadn't inspired you, you'd be able to break free. I know my ability to break free was because of the way I was treated as kid (my family basically treated me like a king), that always stuck with me and I probably wouldn't be who I am today if wasn't for that, maybe in your case it was one person or a group of people who inspired you. But there's always a trace, we aren't so defiant for no reason, we don't think we can do it without an inspiration.

It's unavoidable, external validation not only shapes us as kids, it defines what we think is acceptable and achievable, in more than one area. Going against this is a struggle only few go through, but never fully overcome, even if they become completely successful in their endeavours.

Given the fact that any meaning derived from anything is created in your own mind, one could argue that there is no such thing as external validation as it is all created internally anyway. When someone loves you, you don't literally feel their love, your brain creates a feeling based on what you believe that means. That's also why there are depressed people who feel completely unloved despite the fact that people love them. With the realisation of this, as well as the realisation that we control our own minds, one can begin to completely disregard external validation, as it only means what we think it means anyway.

Well any sort of calculation we make like that is still based on and dependent on our experience with others, and I don't think the solution is to interpret every social cue as a positive value assessment on the part of others, you can do that, but you'll probably end up in the mental hospital, or labelled weird.

I wasn't saying to interpret every social cue as positive value assessments, rather when you realise the good feeling you receive when others validate you is really just you allowing yourself to feel validated then you can begin to supply your own validation to yourself regardless of what's going on around you. It's a concept in the Sedona Method and Release Technique based on the teachings of Lester Levenson called "hootlessness".

[Shannon]

Shannon I had a question about AM. You said it continues the growing process after one run through. Can you please explain a bit more about this? Is it as if it's installed and keeps producing? Please give some clarity

Imagine the Titanic sitting at rest, afloat, in the ocean. It will be drifting along with the current.

Now, turn on the engines to, sat, half power and give the rudder a setting and you're going to come to a specific point after a period of time.

If you then cut the engines, does the ship stop dead instantly? No, it is not a binary; the inertia will continue to carry the ship forward according to the speed and mass of the ship minus the drag on the ship.

In the same way, AM6 will continue to affect you after you finish using it.

Furthermore, any changes you have made fully during the run will become self supporting and self continuing.

[Life]

Perfect answer thanks Shannon

[KingDavid93]

How much time would I need to take off between V1 and V3 of DMSI?

Also what are the optimal # of loops to run for V1 and do they need to be consecutive loops without taking a break?

[Shannon]

How much time would I need to take off between V1 and V3 of DMSI?

Also what are the optimal # of loops to run for V1 and do they need to be consecutive loops without taking a break?

Ideally, you would take 5+ days off of V1 through 2.3

2.4 would be 10 days

2.5 would be 16 days

3.x will be 21 days.

But realistically, nobody's going to do that.

[RTBoss]

How much time would I need to take off between V1 and V3 of DMSI?

Also what are the optimal # of loops to run for V1 and do they need to be consecutive loops without taking a break?

Ideally, you would take 5+ days off of V1 through 2.3

2.4 would be 10 days

2.5 would be 16 days

3.x will be 21 days.

But realistically, nobody's going to do that.

Are you going to want testers to take that time off before 3.0.1's release?

[maxx55]

How much time would I need to take off between V1 and V3 of DMSI?

Also what are the optimal # of loops to run for V1 and do they need to be consecutive loops without taking a break?

Ideally, you would take 5+ days off of V1 through 2.3

2.4 would be 10 days

2.5 would be 16 days

3.x will be 21 days.

But realistically, nobody's going to do that.

Would it be detrimental to go straight from 2.4 to 3.0.1 when it comes out? I plan on taking like only 1 or 2 days off between.

[Shannon]

How much time would I need to take off between V1 and V3 of DMSI?

Also what are the optimal # of loops to run for V1 and do they need to be consecutive loops without taking a break?

Ideally, you would take 5+ days off of V1 through 2.3

2.4 would be 10 days

2.5 would be 16 days

3.x will be 21 days.

But realistically, nobody's going to do that.

Would it be detrimental to go straight from 2.4 to 3.0.1 when it comes out? I plan on taking like only 1 or 2 days off between.

I'm going to say that everyone should be at least 7 days off off DMSI previous versions before using it, and I'll put the word out when I release it. P3/P4 will keep it running in your head that long at least.

[Shannon]

Shannon, when we using subs and we face a laziness to continue listenning to sub, is that another form of resistance? Also feeling that I dont need listenning to that sub anymore, no vigor, no passion to run it, in this case, stage 2 of AM.

Of course it is. It's too hard to freakin' press play? That's resistance.

If you're not done with AM, keep going until you are. Like instructed.

[RoaringLion]

Yes Shannon! Work on that sniper! I have a target at my job that really needs sniping

[CatMan]

Hi Shannon!

Some more questions from me:

1. How many 6G technologies that we haven't seen before will be introduced in V3.0.1? I think you said before in a somewhat old post that about 80-120 technologies make up 6G. Just wanted to know if we will have any new faces this time around besides the one I read about in your journal. I'm sure the existing ones will be tweaked at a minimum, of course.

2. How are things going with V3.0.1 now? Is it still looking like we may be able to get it earlier than expected? I know you said you wanted to get it out by the end of the month, if not sooner. So I just wondered if you are still on pace for this, that gives me 2 big outings left max on V2.5 then I can switch over, unless it's earlier than that in which case rock on, lol.

3. Do you have any plans to introduce more programming for neediness destruction and approval-seeking destruction, self validation? At times I have found myself exhibiting the opposite of those things, in particular to girls I want to respond to the program, when I feel I don't get the attention I want etc. Even to the point of seeking them out, almost "chasing" them, so the opposite of what the program is directing and of course, not attractive. Not always, but more often than I'd like and I know consciously that it's a mistake so I'd like to rectify this. Whereas with others, maybe due to the programming, or due to my lower state of interest, or both, I seem to be able to keep things in check. And of course, the other things we've talked about as issues of mine: limiting beliefs, self sabotage, and a feeling of deservedness of some of these girls (which may just be another term for limiting beliefs?), are contributors to my situation and I'm glad to see they will be included in V3.0.1.

Thanks Shannon, looking forward to V3.0.1 with earnest! It will be a step forward for me no doubt, it will have several of the things I've struggled with for a long time included.

[Shannon]

Hi Shannon!

Some more questions from me:

1. How many 6G technologies that we haven't seen before will be introduced in V3.0.1? I think you said before in a somewhat old post that about 80-120 technologies make up 6G. Just wanted to know if we will have any new faces this time around besides the one I read about in your journal. I'm sure the existing ones will be tweaked at a minimum, of course.

I am journaling almost all of what I do to DMSI for 3.0.1. So you'll see some new technology modules added and some new concepts added and some old stuff optimized and added to. I haven't been keeping track of how many new ones have been added and are aimed for addition.

2. How are things going with V3.0.1 now? Is it still looking like we may be able to get it earlier than expected? I know you said you wanted to get it out by the end of the month, if not sooner. So I just wondered if you are still on pace for this, that gives me 2 big outings left max on V2.5 then I can switch over, unless it's earlier than that in which case rock on, lol.

You don't want 3.0.1 earlier than expected. You want me to work on it until the last possible moment. Why? Because I have several important things to do that will prevent me from working on DMSI for a while after 3.0.1 is released. So I'm aiming to stop adding by the 21st and focus on optimizing and prep for build, and release it on or before the 27th. I have a long list of things to add, and no specific amount that I'm aiming to add in 3.0.1; I'm just working through the list, trying to add the most important things right now.

3. Do you have any plans to introduce more programming for neediness destruction and approval-seeking destruction, self validation? At times I have found myself exhibiting the opposite of those things, in particular to girls I want to respond to the program, when I feel I don't get the attention I want etc. Even to the point of seeking them out, almost "chasing" them, so the opposite of what the program is directing and of course, not attractive. Not always, but more often than I'd like and I know consciously that it's a mistake so I'd like to rectify this. Whereas with others, maybe due to the programming, or due to my lower state of interest, or both, I seem to be able to keep things in check. And of course, the other things we've talked about as issues of mine: limiting beliefs, self sabotage, and a feeling of deservedness of some of these girls (which may just be another term for limiting beliefs?), are contributors to my situation and I'm glad to see they will be included in V3.0.1.

Yes, actually. I do. Time will tell if I can get it into 3.0, but I will try.

Thanks Shannon, looking forward to V3.0.1 with earnest! It will be a step forward for me no doubt, it will have several of the things I've struggled with for a long time included.

Just keep plugging away at it, and eventually the dam will break.