(03-13-2014, 06:37 PM)TheChosenOne Wrote: This is interesting as I used to Think about it a lot.....(currently running AM6)
This is usually situational.....To be dominant to anyone/everyone in every situation is not possible (or even necessary)
In other words, Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler would be dominant (Alpha) to Bill Gates or Donald Trump in the Gym...and Vice Versa
Lebron James would be dominant (Alpha) to almost anyone on the B-Ball Court (or physical arena), but would be (Beta) to a Mark Zuckerburg (in computers)
This is usually (not always) how successful people do deals, leveraging strengths/weakness when bringing products to the marketplace...when it comes to money, power or women (from a guy's perspective) sometimes people see things differently (conflict) and the deal/relationship doesn't work out or "blows up"...Learn the lesson, put it behind you, & get on with Life (Living)...
The best thing a person can do is to be comfortable with themselves, skillsets, and abilities while being aware of their strengths & weaknesses...
"Submitting" to a "Master" in terms of learning/mentoring is never a weakness (but a strength), but when it comes to "politics & authority", a person must be able to discern weather the information is "right" for "them" at that moment in time...that way, a person is not a victim/taken advantage of because they made the choice/decision (responsibility)....
In my opinion you're way of thinking is a little flawed. Just because Bill gates is a highly successfull man doesn't necessarily mean that someone like Jay Cutler would be considered more beta if he was invited to a dinner party at the Gates house. Achievements and status doesn't always equate to being alpha male. Perhaps Jay Cutler's body language and primal energy that he emits sub communicates to everyone at the party that he is the most alpha person in the room.
But how do we even know Jay Cutler is an alpha male? Just because someone is physically very large and muscular doesn't necessarily mean he is an alpha. He might be extremely needy, insecure and beta as **** when it comes to getting girls or interactions with people. Although this is unlikely considering his profession means he has a strong drive and work ethic to get to where he is.. But definitely can't just assume someone is alpha. Alpha isn't about size/physique as much as it is mentality/inner state. A 5'6 guy can be alpha as **** in a room full of taller people, and a big giant guy can give off insecure body language that is very beta.
I agree that saying that submitting to a master in terms of learning/mentoring is not a weakness. However you make it seem like alpha males try to one up everyone they interact with. A true alpha male doesn't need to or try to prove anything to anyone, he is very sure of himself and has no problem giving someone the spotlight or allowing/admitting someone is better then him in a certain aspect.
A true alpha male is an alpha male whether he's in a room with scar face, 50 Cent, or Brad pitt. And I don't believe alpha males would be confrontational of one another, they would probably end up being good friends and like each other. Although in a situation like a club I could see two drunk alpha's going at it but at something like a dinner party or something that isn't drug/alcohol influenced Alpha males are pretty respectable of each other I believe.
