09-17-2013, 05:50 PM
Ok... Just. I'm not sure you fully realize how your first post in Shannon's thread sounded. It sounded VERY antagonistic.
And no. Just "sitting in a chair and listening" doesn't do it alone for MANY of these subs. That pretty much basically WAS it for me for Voice, but for LTU+US there's been a lot of making changes and the sub showing me that I NEED to make those changes. It's not JUST sitting in a chair and listening. You do have to pull your own weight or the program will do nothing. You have to be willing to let the program work on you, and you have to be willing to accept and do what the program's asking you to accept and do.
And at least with Shannon's threads, if you read carefully enough he talks a LOT about that aspect of the programs.
Other's maybe not so much. But we all tune in with these things a little differently, and we all express these things a little differently.
And yeah. This is definitely a process thing. All of these programs are process oriented. Shoot. I don't care how you want to make a change, or what you do to get there, EVERY time you make a change it's going to be a process. Nothing in this world is ever a quick fix. That's a terrible horrible nasty fairy tale that this society has brainwashed itself into believing. Things take work. And time. And they aren't always going to be on YOUR timetable. Think about it this way. How many ways of NOT making a light bulb did Edison find before finally finding out how TO make a light bulb? And that's how this world REALLY works. Always.
And no. Just "sitting in a chair and listening" doesn't do it alone for MANY of these subs. That pretty much basically WAS it for me for Voice, but for LTU+US there's been a lot of making changes and the sub showing me that I NEED to make those changes. It's not JUST sitting in a chair and listening. You do have to pull your own weight or the program will do nothing. You have to be willing to let the program work on you, and you have to be willing to accept and do what the program's asking you to accept and do.
And at least with Shannon's threads, if you read carefully enough he talks a LOT about that aspect of the programs.
Other's maybe not so much. But we all tune in with these things a little differently, and we all express these things a little differently.
And yeah. This is definitely a process thing. All of these programs are process oriented. Shoot. I don't care how you want to make a change, or what you do to get there, EVERY time you make a change it's going to be a process. Nothing in this world is ever a quick fix. That's a terrible horrible nasty fairy tale that this society has brainwashed itself into believing. Things take work. And time. And they aren't always going to be on YOUR timetable. Think about it this way. How many ways of NOT making a light bulb did Edison find before finally finding out how TO make a light bulb? And that's how this world REALLY works. Always.