07-06-2013, 08:28 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-06-2013, 08:54 PM by LionMonkey.)
(07-06-2013, 06:23 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(07-06-2013, 01:55 PM)LionMonkey Wrote: LESSON: Do not do anything on the girls terms. It makes you seem like a lower value guy.
Well, I'd like to put my two cents in, despite being completely inexperienced, I do know what I would not want: And that is to follow a girl around when you supposedly know you've got other options. Why you do that? Why not forget about her and move on? Sometimes this will force her to think "wow, guess I was wrong about that guy" and she'll try to get back in touch with you (this has actually happened to me before) So leave the door open, but move on. Be polite, don't tell her you're letting her have space or anything, just move on. If she reconsiders she'll contact you, trust me. If not, then you can stop wasting your time.
Also, forget what makes you SEEM like a lower value guy or how you APPEAR. Forget it. This is one of my own biggest problems and it pisses me off. Do things for your own reasons, and how people view you is of no consequence. If she thinks you're low value or whatever, who cares?
Also, why you spending so much time on this? Seems to me like you're out at all hours of the night for crying out loud! If it were me (and what I'm working towards) I'd just go about my day and meet women as I go through it. Something will happen the more you stay on your own course and draft women into your own reality.
It's not that complicated, and if I had your confidence, I'm sure I'd be there already, I just don't know why you're playing the game. Make the girls play yours dude.
Anyhow, that's my advice to you and the hope I have for myself all in one. Peace.
Hey Maximus. Appreciate the feedback!
The reason I've decided to do this is to train my skills to be able to have options with women and be able to meet a woman I find attractive anytime. I want to be able to choose between what girl I want to maybe settle down with in the future.
I used to see it one-way. Like if she doesn't like me, whatever but after a lots of these kind of interactions I began to dig deeper into it. I began to put myself more out there to see what kind of interactions would come out of it (to be more precise, it was more like 70% whatever and 30% digging deeper).
Here's what I think: if you think about it if you change your behavior because the girl seems like not liking you, then you've given your power away (obviously there are exceptions to this). You are doing things for your own reasons right? not for hers. Also since you are out not only to get with girls but also having fun (what else would you do that is more fun on a weekend night??).
Many girls really want to be led by a strong guy, whether consciously or unconsciously. They do not want to be responsible for most of the things they do, since then they will be labeled as a slut because of the societies standards.
I remember a year back when I was here in Beijing. I've changed a lot since. Throughout the year, almost all the people I've known and met again tells me that. It is because I'm challenging myself and putting myself in situations where it is pretty uncomfortable if you think about it.
So I'm gaining what I call, "reference experiences" which means that the more various experiences you get, the more skilled in the ability of social dynamics and female psychology you get. You get more "hard skin" and are less affected by social pressure, which is also an attractive trait. Just like practicing martial arts, an instrument or whatever hobby you have, except in this area you deal with people, emotions and lots of random factors when you practice.
As far as the blonde German girl goes - she is nexted. (I wrote the lesson because, to one self it may appear that it wasn't coming off as low value but to the outside world it can seem as beta. You gotta learn from your experiences) I did also write
Quote:I noticed her with her friend but began to talk to a German brunette instead. Thinking that I would not come on her terms but rather I came because I want to see what's up and that it's cool that she's there too.
So after a few minutes of some self-amusing with the German brunette I saw the blonde girl on the way downstairs with her friend.
I excused myself from the brunette and went over to the blonde.
It was coming from a place of being aware of what was going on and it was sincere. I came because I had my reasons to go out and the place was packed which was great since every other places was mostly empty. I had great fun with the brunette, who were also very into me but I did not find her attractive enough to go sexual with her.
Since the frame was set as me pursuing the blonde German girl after I tried to kiss her on the way to the hotel, I just played the role as much as I could.
When I look back now I see it must have looked like I was a bit needy but in the moment, I was not attached to the outcome. Just annoyed, found it a bit amusing and couldn't understand why she didn't want to be with such an awesome guy as me.
1. Do whatever you want.. risk whatever your gut tells you because.. you know you have good intentions.
2. Pressure forms the man.
3. Clarity gives space for better decisions.