07-06-2013, 07:45 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-06-2013, 07:46 PM by adventurousman.)
Quote:The script of the program consists of the statements being fed to your subconscious mind. If you were to read them aloud to yourself, you could call them affirmations. Reading the script is not going to tell you what you want to know about the program. Reading the journals of those who have used and are using it, however, should give you a good idea what to expect.
Those are just affirmations which can be made by anyone, not saying the subs or which technology u use but affirmations are just affirmations. I can list a bunch of affirmations and u can use that in your subs or I might already know affirmations that are being used in your sub, it makes little difference. I know hundreds of affirmations and so does your competitors, I don't think affirmations are unique or hard to structure or find so I don't see any reason for it not being revealed + we might have less resistance to the subs if we know what we're listening to. After I order a sub, would I get the script with it?
Quote:The other 2% typically need to work on overcoming deep fear and learning to reverse the polarity of their natural strength of will from blind stubbornness to consciously directed strength. That 2% often have resistance to being induced hypnotically by others, yes, although they are not impossible to induce with the right methods. You can know if you are in that 2% by a couple methods, of which I will mention the one that does not break the rules. If you display unreasonable stubbornness and resistance to being influenced by others - it might be you.
What do u mean by 'the one that doesn't break the rule?' I'm a control freak, I'm seeing I try to control everything although I'd like to let go.
Quote:According to what I call "snow drift theory", the dominant programming in any given category subconsciously will always be whatever has the most emotional impact, or, barring that, the most repetitions. Therefore, if you say enough affirmations, you can eventually override the subcoscious programming that already exists. However, it is much less effective that subliminals because the conscious mind is intended to act as a filter for the subconscious, and will actively resist - along with the subconscious itself, in some cases - affirmations presented in a Beta dominant brainwave state.
So a category like sex & I've a lot of negative programming in that area, a lot of limiting beliefs. How would one go consciously identifying those beliefs and changing them? One way is using your subliminals which go directly to the subconscious. I'm consciously affirming something like 'beautiful women are drawn to me everyday' but in that category of sex, there is a contradictory believe 'I don't deserve beautiful women' then it won't attract it even though I might override that one thought through repetition the other thoughts remain in place. So I've the same question for your subs, how do u know that it covers all aspects of one category to overwrite it?
Quote:Alpha is a brainwave state in which you are relaxed and less focused, and you become more susceptible to suggestion. You have thoughts and awareness in Alpha. This level is usually correlated with a daydream state or light to medium depth hypnosis. When you are in Alpha, the subconscious is more directly accessible and the critical faculty of the conscious is relaxed considerably. This is even more true in Theta, which is often associated with the REM state of sleep or deep hypnosis.
so one would benefit from listening to theta waves, consciously going to theta and affirming, then that will be more helpful and the subconscious will accept the suggestions faster? Hypnosis does the same, taking us to that state and then affirming those suggestions related to that topic.
Quote:There are many ways, including those you mentioned, that can be used to remove negative beliefs and programming when they are used properly.
What are other ways that u know of other than eft, work, sedona, release? Properly would mean the way its suggested in the programs? I believe removing the programming first and then trying to install new beliefs would be much more effective.
Quote:But if you use both, even then, you may have a conflict of affirmation to subliminal script if you are not understanding something, or how to do something, which contradicts something I have in my subliminal script. Contradictions can result in negations, negative effects or other unexpected results, depending on how your subconscious interprets and reacts to the contradictory statements.
understanding what? Both affirmation and subliminals are related to one category and both are positive but I can see that it can create a contradiction for e.g. the way u see an alpha might be different then the way I see it and when I affirm what I want to be and at the same time through subs, other messages are going, it can create contradictions but then what to do? I can't just listen to subs and be it at their mercy and if it doesn't work the first 6 months, I tell myself I need to do it even though there are little to no results and in the meantime I could have done something else too.
Its also difficult to trust the subs because again I don't know what messages and believes are going to be going in. The results that I read vary from person to person and some of it is just a change of perception, one guy was mentioning he gets now good parking place, so? What has that to do with being alpha? Its LOA, u might be having a good day, good vibes, luck is on your side or once it happened, u believed it to happen again and so it does, nothing to do with being alpha or not.
The traits that I want to install is being super confident, being fearless, productive and not any egoism which is disguised in the name of masculinity. I've a friend who acts all alpha and his belief is people are scared of him so that's what he experiences and he doesn't let an opportunity go by to make other people less than him, he is always incharged otherwise he gets angry and fights, so I hope that's not the alpha version in the subs as I've read many people getting annoyed and angry over little things during the course of different stages and then they control their rage but the rage is coming from non acceptance, this shouldn't be happening, that person needs to respect me because now I believe I deserve respect and how dare he disrespect me, rite.
Quote:Clearly they do work while you are sleeping, as it is stated in the instructions that that is an excellent time to use them. In fact they are designed for that, in order to be as convenient to use as possible. The sleeping brain cycles through states of Delta, Theta, Alpha and in some cases I am told even low Beta waves can become dominant or co-dominant. These cycles are about 90 minutes each for the brain to cycle through all completely if I remember correctly, and that means that while Delta may correlate to an almost completely unresponsive state both mentally and physically, it certainly does not dominate the whole time you sleep, or even the majority of that time. Therefore, subliminals can and do work while you sleep.
Then it won't work in delta but we're also in alpha and theta states during sleep so if we're 5hrs in those 2 states and 2-3hrs in delta, that would mean the messages were received by subconscious for those 5hrs, wouldn't then we count it for only 5hrs and not 8hrs? Or it doesn't matter?
Thanks for answering all questions, I appreciate it. I made a thread to better ask my questions, people are not really responding to it, should I move it to another category, here it is, check it out and if possible respond back
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-2358.html