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[SargeMaximus]

You seem to be implying that you have a commitment to mankind, but the genes are mindless and selfish. Your stated commitment in all this is to yourself, and nobody else.

Marriage is useful for certain things, and not useful for others. Levels of consciousness have nothing to do with it. It is a choice you either make, or don't make. You are assuming that I tie the two together, and simultaneously seem to be making excuses to allow yourself to ignore that two married people have made a vow to one another, and that inevitably, someone (and probably several someones) will get hurt by your actions if you ignore that fact. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

As I said, I'm not planning on raping anyone, so if I have sex with a married women, she has ignored her vows as much as I have. In my opinion, this proves that the marriage was a farce anyhow, and a lie for both involved.

The human body is animal in nature. The human is not just a body, however. It also consists of the mind, and the emotions, among other things that are non-physical.

All humans are or are not emotional creatures of instinct to a roughly equal degree, not just male or female humans. In the past, I was most definitely driven completely by my emotions, and later my reproductive drive. Now I am driven by a balance of my mind, emotions, and instincts, along with the understanding I have of the world around me and how it and the things in it work. There are times when I am more or less driven by my need for sex, but I am not controlled by my sex drive anymore. I decide when, with whom, how often, where, how, etc.

The body alone is the animal expression of the human creature. The rest is what makes us human, and not just animals. You can choose to focus through your mind/emotions and ignore your body, or through your body and ignore your mind/emotions, or through a balance of these.

The current human reproductive method does require animalistic action, and that's not a problem. The problem comes when you allow that animalistic action to become you, take you over, control you - instead of controlling and directing it.

I agree with you there.

You seem here to have exchanged logic for sarcasm. High value always has options to mate and reproduce because they can have anyone they want. If high value chooses to mate with mow value, then they do. If they choose to mate with high value, then they do. I'm not the best at "gaming" women, but I get what I want. It may take me a little longer than other guys sometimes, but I do it. And it's getting easier and easier as time goes on, because my value is increasing steadily.

Right, so what's the problem again? You said it yourself, choose to mate with who you want. I will, sir, I will. I just won't let a ring stop me if my desire happens to land on one.

You might even actually BE high value and have a hard time getting laid, if you're doing something wrong and don't yet understand what that thing is.

I believe you've hit the nail on the head with that. That's exactly what's happening. I simply don't understand a few things, but with the help of my coach and your subliminals, I'm getting there.

Sometimes, you just gotta get *****. I understand. Really I do.

Lol, indeed.

People judge me as being unimportant all the time because of my body type. But I'd say my brain more than makes up for that, and using my brain, I have found ways to access all the eggs I could ever want access to. I choose not to access the eggs of all the females I have available to me in that way for various reasons, but that's not to say I could not if I chose to.

This is good. You've certainly done well for yourself.

I don't have to be choosy, but I sure as hell don't want 3,000 kids to feed. I don't have to be choosy, but I sure as hell don't want to have kids before I become a millionaire and possibly lose my shot because I can't focus on making money as effectively anymore. I don't have to be choosy, but I don't want my kids to have diseases, deformities, disorders, addictions or just plain be ugly when they're born. But I think you're misunderstanding my point here. When I say disinterest signals higher value, I mean it signals that to her - faking it only worked until women were aware of the fakery. It's not a pick-up routine to be genuinely disinterested and have women genuinely be attracted as a result. I can attest to that first hand.

Well, lol. Again, use condoms, the pill, and here in Canada, you can draft up a contract between two sexual partners that states if you are using contraception but a child is born anyways, you have no obligation to provide for it because you were doing everything in your power to keep the sex safe. I understand the children "problem", really. I've had this myself until I found out about this contract. I was gonna be damned if I ever got a girl pregnant so maybe I was even scared of ever having sex for that small chance that my life could get fucked.

Humans among all the animals have the potential to be whatever they choose to be. That means you can choose to e nothing more than a gene slave sperm donor animal... or you can rise to your full potential as an intelligent, wise, understanding creature which happens to be focused through an animal body in order to experience the limitations of the physical world.

The sex drive is genetic, and emotional, and in both cases primarily ruled by the subconscious, which never rests. So you must control it while you are conscious, or it will control you. A man who is slave to his sex drive is not a man, but a slave and an animal, seeking to express his genes any way possible. He is not a leader, because he is a slave. That is low value, and that is why desperation chases away the women.

I agree with you 100%. Perhaps you mistake my drive to get good at dealing with women for desperation to have sex with any woman I find, which is not the case.

Genuine self control is as powerful an attractant to women as genuine self confidence. As a case in point, I know a woman who is interested in me who I have had sexual access to three times. Three times now, out of the five times I have been in her presence, I reasonably could have had sex with her. And yet, even after she took her clothes off and laid down on my bed and even spread her legs for me - two different times - I did not respond by having sex with her.

Did I want to? Yes. But I controlled myself, because I used my brain and I knew that it would cause problems. And what is the result of my self control? She wants me even more every time I refuse her. Whereas it was possible with great effort on my part the first time, I now have her doing everything but forcing me. She comes to me, she takes her clothes off without being asked, she offers me sex in whatever way I want it. Why? Because I demonstrated concern for her well-being in refusing her, and mastery of my animal instincts. She now knows I am a leader, not a slave to my sex drive, and that I am more concerned with her well being than just getting my dick wet. So she trusts me, and I now have free access to her sexually whenever I want it.

This is an important story to remember to be sure. However, my mind cannot yet distinguish between no sex from a woman who desires you and no sex from a woman who does not. To me, it's all the same. I'd rather skip her and go for a woman that I find attractive, who is both available sexually (be she married or not), and can keep her shit together.

I think having sex with a woman like the one you mentioned who told her lunatic husband (who then pointed a gun in your face) about your affair is a bad idea, even if she were single. Such a woman is trouble regardless, and I have no problem staying away from those kinds of women.

I am not just out for me, and my own pleasure. I am out to help her, and my sexual desires take a back seat to that because I know that having sex with her would only hurt her. Even though she expects to be treated like that by men, and would continue to welcome it if I used her for my selfish sexual interests.

I am controlling my animal body, and I have MORE sexual access because of it.

Again, to me, you don't. What you have is a woman who wants to have sex with you, but you have put a barrier on her because you've deemed it unwise. Which is understandable. My thing is, why not just count her as a "no fly zone" instead of saying you have sexual access to her?

I mean, if it was me, any woman I decide isn't worth the risk of sleeping with is a woman I'm not interested in and is a woman I "can't" have sex with. There is no access there because I don't want it there anyways. Does this make sense?

I mean yeah, by all means, you gotta be smart. I'm not saying you shouldn't be. And I think you may be responding to what you think is me instead of who I am. Doesn't really matter though, it's just a shame.

Like and love are very different, as are love and *****.

Well, that's certainly one opinion.

Honesty usually only antagonizes if you are lacking in tact, or you are dealing with the wrong people. Those it drives away are those you don't want to be dealing with regardless, if you're being honest with tact.

That's it exactly. No tact. What is tact and how do I learn it? I'm a blunt instrument. I've known this all my life. I used to love it, you know, being brutally honest and having people become repelled. I used to like it, because no one else stood up for themselves or "owned" what they believed in. But it has gotten to be too much. I don't want to change what I believe in just to please someone, but I find myself heading in that direction, so I gotta find the middle ground.

Deduction was unnecessary. You flat out told me so. What you described doing, being willing to do, and what you plan to do, all require deception, and therefore point to someone who is not being honest.

Interesting.

Again... choose what you want. Choose to own your desires. Be honest about it. Own the truth and the reality of your choice, and refuse to back down. Let the chips fall where they may. I didn't learn this from a book. I learned it from being sick of playing the lying game with women. There's no way to win that game. The only way out is honesty.

Honesty with tact though, yes? I gotta learn the tact man, where can I/how can I?

For example, I'm getting so fed up it's like this. Let's say a girl approaches me and I'm feeling sick of games and lies like I am right now. I'd flat out tell her: so... let's go to your place.

And, if she gets annoyed or whatever, I drop her like yesterday's news. Simple, and blunt. But, I assume, no tact.

Just because marriage is unnatural to a human's genetic instruction set does not mean that the mind, emotions, upbringing or beliefs cannot override those instructions and make monogamy or marriage a genuinely desirable thing for that person or couple. Not everyone would be miserable in a state of marriage, nor would everyone be miserable with every option for whom to marry. You're looking for excuses to justify your desires to disregard marriage as a valid obstacle to sexual access with a given woman.

No, what I'm saying is, deep down there's a human woman under that married girl. If that "creature" (if you will) wants to have sex with me, and she expresses her desire, then I have no problem going for it if I desire her as well.

Not every married woman is going to be in the same situation. She might be married but separated, in the process of a divorce, unable to get a divorce with a man she no longer loves or wants to be around. In such cases it's a judgement call. But in the case that a woman is trying to be faithful, it is not always hard to seduce her into being otherwise. I have had a number of married women who would otherwise never consider having sex with anyone but their husbands, offer me sex in a moment of weakness when they were at the right point in their cycle, or depressed, or highly aroused, or whatever. You cannot just assume that such women, and their families, will be okay if you have sex with them. You can and will do them real damage, and you can destroy someone's life and damage their psyche that way. In the end, you always pay for what harm you do. Somehow, some way.

I'll take that under advisement. Like you said, it's a judgement call.

Morality is a set of rules that people in a society live by to make that society function. Morality, laws, etc. may be constructs made by man, but they exist for reasons, and often very good reasons. It isn't because they were primitive and we are so awesomely evolved now that we don't need them. Times are indeed changing, but that doesn't mean that I am going to be any less hurt if you have sex with my girlfriend when she's in a moment of weakness, or that if I was married and you had sex with my wife that my kids wouldn't suffer emotional trauma from the fallout. You're not thinking of anyone but yourself, and I guarantee you, that path is going to lead you to pain, suffering and regrets. How old are you right now, by the way?

I'll answer that if you answer me this:

Why don't you put the blame at least equally on the woman for betraying you? I myself endeavor to not care because I want open relationships, but it's always puzzled me why the man has never been angry with the woman for cheating as much as he's been mad at the other man for taking advantage of that woman's state.

In fact you don't understand. The point was that I stayed alive because he recognized that I knew that what I had done was wrong, that it hurt him, and that I was hurting because I had hurt him. He id not kill me because he realized that I understood, and his rage subsided enough for him to control himself and lower his gun. I didn't surrender to the will of the universe. I surrendered to him and his judgement, as my penance for having done him wrong. There was no calm in me for days, I assure you.

What could be learned from this, perhaps, is not to **** another man's wife. Or, if you don't want to "get it", surely it is possible to let it lead to improving your skills as a liar, cheater, etc.

He showed up at my doorstep not because I brought her to my house - I didn't. He showed up at my doorstep because she knew where I lived, and told him in her fit of guilt.

I don't want to be a liar and cheater. Just like I don't want to work to make money to eat food. I could be a "good boy" and stay away from married women, just like I could live in the forest and eat game.

But, there are certain things we have to sacrifice to get what we want, as you've said yourself.

The ultimate ideal (for me) is that everyone on earth is in one, big, open relationship. Maybe I'm an idealist in that regard, but I'd like to live in that world. Maybe you could design a sub that transfers us to alternate realities?

I don't want to hurt anyone either, I really don't. But sometimes we hurt people around us just because of what we believe.

I imagine gay kids in a religious family hurt their parents when they come out of the closet. But they gotta do it man, they can't just ignore and repress who they are. Or do you have another solution?

Learning to avoid such things is done by not doing things that lead to others wishing to do you violence. Like ***** their wives.

That's one way, yes.

And likewise, you will learn the hard way that it is wise to follow in my footsteps and leave married women to their husbands.

Or I could, like you said, learn from you now. I'd hate to go through unnecessary suffering.

I believe that you want to see what you want to see in order to get what you want however it is easiest. And as with everyone else who has traveled that path, including myself, you will find that the further you tread from the wise way, the more pain you experience. For some of us it takes longer and more pain than for others. I wish you swift discovery. And I am sure I speak for a lot of men when I say, best to hope you never succeed in tagging one of my chosen females.

As do we all, it's human nature.
Just hope they never cheat on you is my perspective. I'm under no illusions that women are promiscuous and don't intend to rule any of my girls with a leash. They can do what they want. Everyone can.