Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8

[Topaz]

Just curious as to which of these two subs is supposed to be more powerful? ESPA or x4a 1511?

From what I understand ESPA is "harder" to use as it can only be used if you can actually get the one you want out on a date and be around her for at least an hour just not one time but multiple times. You can't just play it randomly at the grocery store or gym etc. but from what I understand it's not actually a sub for the user himself, it's for the one you want it to affect, so it can help bypass any resistance you may have.

By looking at one of the journals here
x4a 1511 looks pretty promising.
Again I never used it so I don't know ..

Also if you are currently in the middle of E6 run through I guess you should finish it first...

About subliminals it's best to ask Shannon for more clarification on the subject 

About manifestations I can try to help
Visualize everyday going to different places and see in your mind's eye women wanting you
The harder part would be not to talk in opposition to what you want.
So for example I have a journal and I therefore I write some of my struggles there.
However it's actually can hinder my progress 
So try to figure how to talk about what you want