(07-02-2024, 09:43 AM)Shannon Wrote: This will never happen. While testosterone is important for men, there are two primary issues with this idea.
Inducing an increased level of testosterone in a sub to develop masculinity only skews the effects the program has artificially and The effect will only last as long as you tun the program.
A subliminal to focus you into and develop your masculinity should not be something you have to run forever to maintain the results. Furthermore, it is possible that inducing this state of raised hormones for too long may result in adrenal exhaustion. Finally, how will you develop these traits accurately if you're artificially increasing your testosterone and then developing them based on that? When the test levels drop because you stopped using the program, there will be a cognitive dissonance, because you calibrated your development on an artificial and temporary state.
We want to develop and calibrate based on your natural state, and then later on, add testosterone. Not the other way around.
That's a good point I hadn't considered. Acting masculine cos you have a shot of testosterone vs having it on the deep level.
It makes sense to me know why testosterone wouldn't be in AM7, which was something I really was hoping for.
(07-02-2024, 09:43 AM)Shannon Wrote: A subliminal of this type, whether it be Alpha Male or something to develop masculinity, must be the most distilled version of what it is trying to accomplish. Adding in things like workout motivation and porn destroyer and such only distracts from the essential goal of the program and divides attention, focus and energy. That is part of why AM is a multi-stage set: to reduce that, given the number of legitimate sub-goals it had to focus on in each step.
Develop Your Masculinity, or whatever I end up calling it, is going to be a single stage program. My vision for this program is to be a minimialist design that laser focuses on the primary root of the issue, and thus enables everything else to result as a natural consequence. Not only do we have a limited number of stages to this (one), but in 5.11G we have a limited number of goals we can reasonably build into a program.
So this program is about deep inner work that needs to take place to develop your masculinity. It's not about motivating you to go exercise - proper masculinity will do that naturally. It's not about artificially increasing testosterone, for reasons I have already discussed. This is all about inner work, getting rid of the garbage beliefs that society has bombarded men with about what is masculine that are really just propaganda designed to weaken men and make them easier to control, thus resulting in less masculinity. Making guys understand that masculinity is not "toxic". Making guys understand that they can and should embrace their natural masculinity and masculine nature. Helping guys understand what masculine actually is, now that we have all this garbage that is confusing the shit out of everyone because everyone is addicted to junk social media sites and has lost any and all ability to think for themselves.
Develop Your Masculinity isn't intended to be Alpha Male, and it will not be. Alpha Male isn't a "luxury upgrade" of Develop Your Masculinity. It has to be as broad and universally accessible as possible, so we can help as many guys as possible move towards becoming men. And at the same time, we're not trying to turn guys into assholes or selfish pricks or users or abusers or any of the negative aspects of what we are told that masculinity is these days by those who have an agenda against masculinity and men.
This is minimalist. Pure. Core of the issue. It's about how you define "masculine" and "man". It's about what you accept as true. It's about thinking for yourself and being able to think critically, so you can't be easily brainwashed by today garbage social media and news content, and you can separate the propaganda from the truth. It's about finding and holding the right set of beliefs and the right identity and frame of reference to positively focus into your natural, positive masculinity and develop it to it's full potential. It's about being accepting of your natural masculinity and embracing your natural masculinity, and developing it, standing strong within it and embodying it with natural strength and confidence, because it is simply what and who you are.
Lots of ideas for what to add have been floated, but they're almost all putting bandages on the symptoms, not fixing the root of the issue. The root of the issue is that guys in many cases no longer even know what masculinity even is anymore. They are told that being masculine is toxic. That it's not acceptable to be masculine, never mind male.
This program needs to halt that and put guys who use it back on track to understanding themselves as males, accepting themselves as males, accepting that masculinity is every bit as valid and important as femininity (Yin and Yang must balance and fulfill each other's weaknesses while enhancing each other's strengths for there to be harmony and success within the whole of the system, which in this case is society) and developing their natural masculinity in positive, healthy ways that aren't defined by and guided by propaganda designed to make them weak and easily controlled.
That is my vision for this program. Something that - when it does what it's designed to do - naturally results in all the masculine things, and guys becoming and embracing being men.
And Ben, I'm not just answering your post with this, but all the posts above yours suggesting what to put in this program.
Awesome explanation, i'm on board with that now that I understand better.
It's definately a balancing act. Because there's a fairly low bar guys who are roided and tatted up come across as fairly masculine.. but then you see videos of them losing their shit and trying to start fights over little things and trying to bully and intimidate people, like some of the guys on Eric Kanevsky's videos who trolls them.
I know from when I did security the guys acting tough, walking around pretending to be tough, talking the biggest amount of shit about how tough they are would usually be in the toilet or under the pool table when it kicked off, or would pretty quickly goto water when it come to it.
Then you have Andrew Tate, I do like alot of his mindsets but he tries to tell you that if you don't have mansions and tons of fancy cars you aren't masculine.. where personally I don't give a fuck about that.
Then we have the 'conscious masculinity' dudes who man, I can't even comprehend the shit they come out with. There was this thing a 'men's cuddle club' where a group of men would sit around and cuddle each other to 'heal their masculinity'. Sometimes I swear some of this stuff is trolling us to see if anyone will do it.
It's hard to find role models kind of between who is legitimately strong and secure, of course that could also come across as an 'asshole' with how far society has gone in the wrong direction, but it would be learning to be assertive in a balanced grounded way, and if they take it the wrong way it's on them.
