Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8

[Shannon]

I can't remember I think it was stages 4-6 ??
Basically at stage 2-3 and maybe 4 I felt really good at *some* points body language was really good and I pushed myself to succeed in many things.
But the last stages 5-6 were horrible including not being confident enough and lost attraction from women and respect from some guys.
It's like I became a serious guy very dry not interesting and could have social anxiety when I'm out .

I used to be really care free loving and funny when I went out with friends also very attractive to women.
My friends used to complain I get all the attention.
Now what happened on the lasy stages including the 7 days of the Refresher - I could talk to two girls at the bar and a friend could talk to them at the same time...
The girl would get angry (local girl) and very rude telling me they want us to go away and they are in a middle of a conversation but my friend could just say something and she relaxes and continue to talked to him. But again if I say something she got pissed off and again said go away both of you please I want you to leave us alone!!
I went away.
30 minutes later he got her phone number when I came back she was nice to me because she likes him

On another occasion with different girls I can even talk or ask a question and for some reason the RAS (attention) is to my friend it's like I don't even exist anymore! I never had something so horrible happen to me lol
It would usually happen to my friend when I talk to women (at the time I'm using affirmations but the point now is not to use them and to change my beliefs on a deeper level of course)

At first I thought it was this friend maybe he is so great now with women.
So I went out with other friends and again the same think happened it's like I'm not attractive anymore.

Then I go to work and my female colleagues are still really attracted to me(local girls) and flirt a lot !
Or even if they don't they really respect me...
On AM6 they really flirt sometimes like crazy.
I still want to say that even if my friends get better results these girls usually are flakes if they give phone numbers.
And also I want to remind that locals here usually are rude to unknown people and like to know men in social situations like what I have in my job would be good example of that.

However when you become really attractive and manifestation women I could have locals sometimes invite me to their apartment to f..
Even if they were flakes they sometimes approached me in bars (affirmations and manifestations) so I know it's possible .
I hope it helps if you need more information please tell me.

About AOS + BIATBW yes the social anxiety is something I probably resist that's why I chose SM because it's stronger and I like the 6 stages programs it makes more sense rather than just doing a one stagger and feeling anxious.
SM contains confidence and self esteem training and it feels better... Also it should clear things better and limiting beliefs.
Just the fact I feel so clam and so much better now than I did using AOS BIATBW tell me everything

I hope I'm on the right track here
Thank for your response

In running AM6, whatever stage(s) is/are the hardest to run are the ones that have the trigger points in them that you most need to work on overcoming.

I think I understand you are running SM now, so let' see how that run goes for you.

One thing I suggest you consider is that you are basing your sense of attractiveness externally, instead of internally.  An alpha will base internally.  In other words, he doesn't look at how women respond to him and then conclude how attractive he is from that.  He knows he is a certain level of attractive because he decided that about himself, and as such, women who don't agree simply fall by the wayside and get left behind, and he doesn't have any issue with that.  It looks like your frame of self reference is being shaken by having some women resist or reject you.  That and those two stages at the end are clues to what you need to work on.