02-09-2024, 11:17 PM
Quote:My personal thought on this is that it's a highly individual issue. It's something that we have to determine for ourselves and unfortunately, there's rarely a black and white, clean cut answer. For the past couple of years I've been following a basic code when it comes to subs. That code is this:
- Avoid subs that focus on reducing/removing the negative (i.e. OF, E-series, etc.). This helps me to avoid getting caught up in never-ending loops that would allow me to justify any lack of progress.
- Use subs that focus on improvement by increasing the positive (UMS, Maverick, US, AM, etc). This tends to be a roller coaster ride, but the overall self-improvement trend is positive and has clear, measurable milestones when looking back at outward results.
- Pick a sub that I'm willing to run for 12+ months and stick to that plan. For me, it generally takes 6+ months of use before I begin to see the outward results I just mentioned.
I'm not suggesting that you should follow my code. But setting a framework for yourself might be helpful. Even an imperfect framework can help to determine what works well and what doesn't. That can help you to correct course as needed.
Yeah the weird thing is in some ways it feels like the more i'm doing healing programs the deeper i'm getting into a hole.
LTU gave positive progress in a few areas, OF v3 actually did too as I started doing martial arts again, UH did as I started dating again, though I haven't managed to recover since breaking up with my last gf, OGSF seems to have taken me further away from that.
I'm thinking the next one for me should be something focused on a goal that isn't healing.
What's fucked up is the more 'healing' i've done the more I seem to get further away from certain goals like being with girls, even fitness stuff like alot of drive has lessened, and money.
Quote:It could be that OGSF is guiding you to sit in your cave, spend time with yourself, and overcome those issues. There's nothing wrong with pulling away from social groups & functions, then emerging when you're ready. You might consider giving the sub a certain amount of time (in months) to do its thing, then re-evaluate what you want to do next. At that point, you should have a good idea of how well you're executing the sub versus how much misery you're dealing with. Realistically, if you've used a sub for a year and you've experienced pure hell for months on end, it's probably time to move on.
I did go through this at the start of OGSF v2 for like 3 months or more. It almost is like when I did another process to disrupt it that it reset that progress. Either that or it's going deeper. But it definately seems more down than up in the whole time i've used V1 and V2.
