Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

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I started my second run of USLM v4.2 last Sunday and I have completed my first 5 days of listening.  I can't remember if I was affected in the same way on my first run, but so far I have noticed that the DRS in USLM v4.2 seems to be canceling out the effects of my morning coffee.  I have to get up early every morning and I like the effects of coffee on my brain and body in the AM.  Since the DRS prevents these effects (or at least seems to) is it possible to get the USLM v4.2 WITHOUT the DRS ?  

I got USLM v4.2 as a free upgrade since I previously purchased v4, but I would be willing to pay for a new version without the DRS.  Shannon, is this possible ?  If not, I will probably go back to using USLM v3, which has always given me great results.

I'm not sure why you would equate the Directional Reflection Shield with cancellation of caffeine.  The issue here is almost certainly the module that causes your body to override chemically induced state shifting in order to put you in, and keep you in, the ideal state of awareness in which to achieve the goals of the program.  I can't rebuild it without that.  Your best bet is going to be to try waiting until an hour or two after you've had your morning coffee to play the program, instead of playing it at night.

Hi Shannon and thanks for your reply. I noticed that I have been feeling mentally and physically sluggish ever sine I started the USLM v4.2.  It is not the same kind of tired that I got before from the subs.  This is my first sub with a DRS.  I did use USLM v4.2 briefly last year, but I had so much chaos going on in my life at the time, that it is hard for me to remember if I got sluggish from it, or if I was just going on adrenaline for a lot of that time. I looked at the DRS description page for clarification :

Recreational drug use, as well as drugs that are not typically thought of as being drugs (caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, etc.) will be affected and you may find they become significantly less enjoyable. This may also affect natural substances/supplements that shift state.

I don't smoke or drink very much, so I wasn't concerned with that.  However, I am NOT a morning person and I do find coffee to be very helpful in the morning.  I only drink 1 cup and I usually feel really good after that.  This past week, I have been feeling like I am just drinking water instead of coffee.  I have tried playing the sub at different times of the day and it has not made any difference. My gut feels different too, and I feel like I am not getting the usual amount of energy after taking my vitamins.

I know that you originally had planned to have the DRS be an add-on sub that one could use with another sub.  If it is going to be included in all the new subs, I am not sure that I will want to use them. I really wish we had the option of using it strictly as an add-on.  Maybe my system is more sensitive than others, but it's taking away from my normally great energy, and that is not how I want to feel.

I am going to re-run USLM v3 again. For me, it has been the absolute best sub I have ever used.

The tiredness you're feeling is the FRM at work and/or resistance against it (or resistance to any other part of the script).  Until that's overcome, you'll be more tired.  I'm experiencing it on Aura of Love, just like I did on LTU6.  It will be there until it is overcome, and it's usually not that long (for me).  When it stops, it's just suddenly gone.

I am also not a morning person, and a caffeine fan.  Like Shannon said, it isn't the DRS, it's that the latest subs are much more effective, and you're more effectively executing the chemical intoxicant override module (a module that is also in the DRS stand alone, which is why that point is mentioned on the DRS sales page).  I noticed my wife and I both drink more caffeine to get the same effect as before.  I also need to drink a few more beers to get any sort of buzz from alcohol than I did before.  

Anyway, please don't give up on USLM 4.2.  You need to stick with it to get past what's making you tired.

Thanks for your reply RT.  I enjoy reading your posts because you always have something interesting to say. Given that you have been using the subs which contain the DRS (with the chemical state shifting override module) and have experienced reduced effects from caffeine yourself, with the need to increase your caffeine intake, I feel that you are essentially corroborating my experience with the DRS in USLM v4.2.  I have been both caffeinated and un-caffeinated during various periods of my life so I know the difference, and I know my body very well. The entire last week of using USLM v4.2 has to me felt like being un-caffeinated; so yes, I am executing the chemical state shifting override module very well.  But now you and Shannon are saying that I am resisting the script. You can't have it both ways.

I have used USLM v3 with much success in the past, both while caffeinated AND un-caffeinated so I do not feel like caffeine affects my ability to manifest and attain my intentions. The whole idea that I would have to override caffeine to manifest something does not ring true to me. I also wonder if the chemical state shifting override module is affecting my ability to power my methylation cycle that I get from my B vitamins, which could affect my dopamine/noradrenaline/adrenaline/serotonin balance, which could also affect energy levels.  That is not something I want.  I have spent a lot of time finding the right supplements for me.  I'm sure you already know that in nutrition there is no "one-size-fits-all". Maybe that goes for subs too.  Maybe everyone does not need the chemical state shifting override module. Maybe everyone does not need the DRS.

I have already proven that I DO execute USLM and I have backed that claim up with photos of my successes, and I have shared my methods with you Shannon because you asked me to. I reported my successes.  And I did this without a DRS. Now you are claiming I am "resisting".  I am not going to lie about what the sub is doing or how I am feeling on it.  I am not attacking you or your subs, I am just reporting honestly, so please don't think I am just trying to start an argument. Maybe everything does not boil down to "resisting".

In light of the fact that you have brought back some of the older tech subs, and given that I and many others here on the forum have have great success with USLM v3, maybe you could offer that to those who do not want the DRS in their sub. The bottom line for me is that I would like a choice whether or not to have the DRS, and I wish it was not automatically included in all the newer subs. I have already proven that I can execute the sub without it and I don't want it affecting my own bio-chemical processes that I have worked very hard to balance to what I consider optimal levels for me.

Just keep listening to the sub man.  Everyone goes through this and it isn't long term.  It goes away.

If you need your caffeine to have more of an effect just add some tyrosine to it until you're back to normal.