Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Shannon]

Hello Shannon.

Just had a few things for you:

1. Maybe the issue of "death" in the mind surrounding DMSI's design goal, is because you assume she "belongs" to another man/tribe, so if she approaches you for sex, and you are both discovered, it could result in banishment from your tribe (resulting in likely dying due to not being able to make it on your own) or actual death from another man or his tribe. Death in a literal sense, or in death of your line not procreating due to the experience. This is speaking from an ancient evolutionary standpoint, mind you.

2. Perhaps the fear of "death" in the mind surrounding DMSI's design goal, is because on some level you don't believe you are up to her standards somehow. And that will be discovered by her or the tribe, or other men in the tribe who may be competing with you in general or for said female, and you could be punished by death by the tribe or banishment. Death in this instance could also mean, the "death" of your line due to not procreating. Or you may actually be banished by the tribe, which would again likely result in death by being alone in the wilderness. Thinking again in an ancient evolutionary standpoint.

I used that ancient evolutionary logic above, because I assume based off your posts, that's where a lot of this "deep subconscious" lizard brain activity is still wired. And may ALWAYS be, seemingly.

Based on what I have seen, I think that you are over-ascribing ability to think to the parts of the brain that fear seems to most deeply originate from.  The parts we are dealing with have the awareness of a lizard, quite literally.  They understand hunger and thirst, drive to sex, drive to safety, drive to comfort/pain avoidance, and that's about it.  This is a very low level of awareness, a very instinctual and "dim" awareness, if you will.  It is survival only.  All the fancy stuff I have tried so far has failed to get at this level because it is not what I was aiming at with what I was doing.  But because it is the root of fear, and it is not being dealt with, when triggered it naturally it keeps responding with fear.  

If this is correct, then we have a very challenging situation on our hands, which is probably binary in nature.  It is either possible to shut down fear, or it is not.  If it is, there is very likely a very specific way to do it, which we haven't tried yet.  I disagree with those who conclude that fear is "hard wired and impossible to stop", because it always results from an assessment of the surroundings or an imagined threat.  In other words, it is always a reaction, not a constant or an innate state.  To kill fear, we have to stop the reaction somehow.  I think the key is very specific, and we just haven't tried it yet.  I believe I have some very good ideas in the pipeline for how to do this.  

3. Are you going to implement the Transformational Shield in the new DMSI? That may get around the "energy" issues with the sub you've spoke of. Even though I admit I don't get the whole energy thing, to be completely honest. Just a thought. If that won't work, the DRS would still be a good upgrade from the NDRS, which I feel should be retired now. Assuming those "shields" do work, then I can't see a reason where you'd rather have an NDRS than at LEAST DRS, if not the seemingly "best" one, TRS.

I had planned to run through the models no shield, NDRS, DRS, TAS and "some other shield type".  Then, whichever wins, gets chosen.  DRS seems like it could be very useful, but also potentially challenging.  There are types of shielding I have yet to build scripts for that may also be significantly interesting.  We shall see.

4. Finally, what did you mean by "it will also have adjustments to what its goals are based on how people reacted", on this post? https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-DMSI-...#pid233665 ...I hope that doesn't mean removing the design goal of people we're attracted to approaching us for sex. That wording made me nervous about things...lol...

All the best, Shannon. Thank you, looking forward to posts about FRM and DMSI very soon! Please stay safe.

(original post got massively buried, lol)

What I mean is, we are taking all of what we have learned from V3.3.2 and trying to find ways to improve and optimize what is working, and add to it in constructive ways.  Maybe remove things that are not useful, or have become depreciated in value as a result of newer developments.  

Your post did get buried, but I had it in a tab set to reply to regardless.  I just was too tired by the time I got done yesterday.