Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Determined]

Yeah, I personally feel like some of the advice Greenduck has given me lately has been well intentioned, though misguided and unhelpful.

That's the thing, he's not doing it from a place of actually knowing or having achieved much in these areas.. he's doing it in the hope that he can feel helpful. And has in fact given some quite bad advice that could be damaging.

 

Yeah, I can tell he hasn't succeeded in those ares, because he still has the mindset that sometimes you just gotta eat shit and like it. Not a healthy mindset. Not the attitude of success.

As for asking strange questions, uh-oh! I didn't know you and Shannon had such a problem with questions not strictly related to our subliminal usages. I'm gonna have to put more thought into the possible level of perceived appropriateness regarding any question I ask from now on. I hope I haven't myself asked questions you and/or Shannon found bothersome. If so, you have my apologies, and if you answered them and I did not express gratitude, you have my sincere apologies for that as well and I would like to rectify that by expressing gratitude now. Thank you both for all the time and effort you put into customer service by answering our questions and generally helping us out! I'll pay more attention to the appropriateness of my questions from here on out.

It's more that there's been a couple of people in the past, including Greenduck now who like every day or two come up with more unusual and out there questions, like he asked one that makes sense on anxiety, then doesn't even respond to the answer to it, but instead a day or two later comes up with another one that really makes absolutely no sense at all. 

And has constantly done so. To take it to the extreme would be kind of like "Hey Shannon, what did you eat for breakfast, lunch and tea today?" and he spends time answering then a day later "Oh Shannon, what did you eat today, was it different than yesterday? How many times did you goto the toilet?".

Then I get annoyed at it, even after spending a huge amount of time going out of our way to help that person then they're like "oh you're just picking on me, I never did anything wrong, you're unprofessional and i'm totally innocent in all of this" after pushing it constantly. This is one of the common demoninators between the few people that got banned a while ago.

And the same people rarely seem to care about the effort put into help them, but as soon as I get annoyed at their continued behaviour they're yelling out about that as much as they can and acting innocent.

And they can never take any response back and just are oblivious to it.

So don't worry too much, you're fine. Like i've even said a few things to you like it's not helping your mindset to refer to yourself as a certain thing and you actually got it. Where the people i'm talking about would have a big post rationalizing it all and having no idea.

Yeah, I can see how that's frustrating. TBH I've gone down a very similar road, but worse. Just ask my online mentor. He's had the patience of a SAINT, ansseri g the SAME questions over and over again, sometimes taking hours to do so, only for me not to get it, repeat the same questions, not show appreciation , sometimes be unresponsive, and just generally waste his time and energy wothout showing him enough due acknowledgement or appreciation. I'm glad he's been so patient with me. I am TRYING to be better about that as best I can. And I contact him WAYY less, because I realize how much I was rudely and ungratefully draining precious time and energy je has little of. 

So I read what you say about Greenduck's behaviour and I can still see myself in it. It's good that I can though. It makes me more understanding of others behaving similarly.

But yeah, I understand that has to be frustrating.

In my humble opinion, I have noticed that some guys here who have unresolved daddy issues tend to play them out on Shannon, particularly those with absentee fathers. This tends to play out with the members making lots of noise just to get attention.

It's always a good idea to refine your questions Evolving Phoenix. I personally get sick when I see the same inane questions asked of Shannon and I usually avoid the forums when that becomes the norm. So in the interest of good quality readership, definitely ask only worthwhile questions.

I gave Greenduck a negative rating a few days ago because I see what Ben sees. He's not wrong in his assessment of Greenduck and the behaviour Greenduck is exhibiting is very similar to some other unsavory characters who got the boot earlier in the year.

The only other thing I'd add to the list of grievances is how he tries to influence Shannon into doing what he wants Shannon to do. It shows no respect for Shannon as an autonomous human being. I can understand where he took it from because Sarge used to run that same program but he needs to understand that behaviour is no longer acceptable.