We're only in it for the potato - UMS Interlude

[Have at ye]

I'm curious about what you said about the side effects of DMSI.  You said 3.2 - never did 3.3.x?  Please explain further about the gaming and Oedipal reactions.

I also don't understand how the world shield is linked to them trying to seduce you.

I don't know how the shield would be related to that directly, either. I actually didn't mean to imply a connection between the two things, as there might be none, so I guess the structure of my post might have been confusing (incidentally, when my writing starts becoming disorganized, it's an indication that my sub-c is working hard on processing something). The seduction attempts may be related to FRM doing its job or the TID effect from the next ver. of DMSI; which is it exactly - I'm unable to tell at this time.

As to the side-effects: yeah, I intended to state 3.3.x, but, actually, 3.2 appeared to have a similar effect (or maybe even the earlier versions did, but only on 3.2 did I actually start noticing and acknowledging what is happening).

Here's how it went in at least 5-6 cases I've had the opportunity to observe over an extended period of time: girl gets very aroused and interested, girl approaches/chats up/begins seducing, fun on a bun, then - usually when they notice that multiple other females seem to be doing the same thing they are doing and/or I actually start liking them and decide to go for it - they do a 180 and try to get me to pursue through emotional manipulation, usually through the 'ol push-pull, but in several cases I've actually had the girls find the nearest Oedipal Sonny (I'll explain what I mean by that in a moment  ), start pretending they're actually interested in them blatantly and so that I could see, etc., with two actually starting "relationships" with said sonnies while still *hitting on me at the same time* (sometimes even when the particular sonny is around... and it usually gets them even more so involved emotionally into the girl). I actually had totally enough of shit like this in one particular case (a case with whom I unfortunately had to work with during tours for the better part of this year), so I confronted directly, and it turned out that I was, unfortunately, right.

Oftentimes, when I do not respond to the gaming attempt the way the girls expect me to (I believe that's mostly an ego thing - they're usually very attractive women and I assume that they assume that there's no frickin' way this couldn't work, because it works on pretty much everyone else, right? ), instead of showing any shred of honesty, they escalate.

In radical, very unhealthy cases (like, f. in., my ex) the girl would sometimes respond by stalking me to a social event, finding the nearest guy who looks like they may be interesting in having sex with them, and then proceed to seduce them blatantly so that I can see that they're doing it. But this only occurs in serious cases of crazy.


Anyroad, many girls are trying to get me jealous of them on purpose, and thus I would hypothesize that they are, in fact, jealous of me. Incidentally, designee I dub "sweet little aristocrat" is the *only* one who actually owned up to doing so without any confrontation or prodding on my part (and she didn't do anything too radical, just attempted a little push-pull, compared to some other shit I've seen). She probably feels bad about it.

Now, onto the Oedipal thing - I have noticed a rather worrisome trend among various other guys who - upon seeing the kind of attention and attraction I am getting from various attractive females - actually appear to start believing themselves to be falling in love with the female responding to me, and start acting out on this (usually by pursuing them really, really hard, and making trouble for me through sabotage/slander). I was wondering whether this may be a behavioral, competitive reaction, but it's way too... weird and specific to be just this. Thus, I have come to the conclusion that it would appear to be the Oedipus complex in action: the Oedipal triad: father - mother - son/daughter; and the Oedipal Sonny reacts this way because something in their sub-c makes them feel compelled to try to prove to the Feminine/Oedipally Maternal figure that they deserve their love and attention more than the Masculine/Oedipal Paternal figure.

So, in short, when a guy starts feeling the Oedipal Call of the Sonny, they are basically, on a symbolic level, trying to prove to daddy that they also deserve mommy's love and affection  and that mommy loves them more. Win mommy from daddy, so to speak.

And the more the girl with the Sonny in tow shows interest in me, the more erratic and desperate the Sonny becomes.

For some reason, this appears to be an extremely prevalent thing among modern males...