07-12-2017, 07:23 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-12-2017, 07:24 AM by SargeMaximus.)
(07-12-2017, 07:08 AM)robstar Wrote:(07-11-2017, 05:30 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(07-11-2017, 04:59 AM)RTBoss Wrote:(07-11-2017, 04:29 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(07-10-2017, 10:41 PM)CatMan Wrote: Hey there, Sarge!
It's true that there's nothing on this earth of course that will resonate or work for everyone. I hear you. I mean, there's life saving meds I'm allergic to...but literally save most people's lives, lol :/.
But also, sometimes, you aren't prepared for the truth of something at a certain time, or to internalise it. It's like you aren't at that point, so your mind is closed to it as a result as your programming or desire to follow a certain narrative closes you to it. I have said often that I wish that these books were put in front of me when I was like 12 years old, right after or before that psycho, vengeful bitch caused possibly my deepest scar with girls. Or, maybe even earlier in my life! But, the truth is, I was so stuck on that other girl, probably to the point of obsession, and other beliefs and programming drilled into my head by society to be extremely blue pill as they say, that I truthfully don't know if I would've gotten anything out of it. Maybe I needed to experience a lot of depths of pain, and riding out the narrative shoved down our throats to see that it doesn't serve me no matter how hard it spams me about it's virtue, in order to open my mind up to experience this stuff and let it show me what's what. Or, I could've took to it like a duck to water and become a massive ladies man with insane levels of game and experience by now. Who knows, I just know it's possible the timing/not seeing the depths of failure the narrative causes me in the end game, may have prevented me from experiencing benefit from the books despite having access to them at such a young age.
So, maybe it's an issue of timing, maybe you weren't ready to really let it soak in. I'd give them another shot. Or, perhaps, first try the other book I'm reading in my routine, Practical Female Psychology For The Practical Man, that one gives you direct things to look for and do, it isn't so much a mindset/mentality book like RM. I enjoy that one a lot for that reason, it's a bit more action-oriented, so it brings a unique perspective to my rotation compared to the RMs. So, you may find it more to your liking based off your post. But after it, I'd recommend trying them again, they really are incredible. I hope this time the timing will be better .
Lol. It's got nothing to do with preparedness. The book simply doesn't have any actionable steps in it. It has a lot of mindset like you say, which is not something I need. I'm not one to benefit from theory, I prefer actionable steps that yield results.
You can internalize theory all you want, it won't get you laid.
(07-10-2017, 10:50 PM)lano1106 Wrote: Maybe I under estimate the power of DMSI but my experience as a man relating with women is that only a minority will be wild enough to initiate sex.
The bigger group of women will act more like a maiden desiring to be taken.
So what I expect from DMSI is that a lot of women will be attracted sexually but ultimately it remains, generally, the man responsibility to take the lead to have sex.
With the help of DMSI, I expect a hell lot of cooperation from women to make it happen.
So here is a suggestion. Maybe your hairdresser would be down for it and she communicates it to you with IOIs but the only way to find out is to make a move to move things forward and see if she goes for it enthusiastically....
That being said, I understand that the situation may be delicate as you may want her to stay your hairdresser no matter what. In that case, there must be ways to test the water with the possibility to backtrack in case it was not solid IOI.
OTOH, usually, the bolder a man is, the more attractive his behavior will be to her eyes...
So much fun to be a man....
You obviously are unaware of the fact that I've been on 3 dates with my hairdresser. That on the third date, despite making out for 2 hours (and having a boner for 1 hour of that time) we did not have sex, despite my advances (which she turned down) for 1.5 hours of that time.
If DMSI was working, that was the time for it to work.
I think you mean, if you were executing the script. You need so much clearing and healing, Sarge, I'm not surprised it's not quite "working" yet for you.
Who makes out for 1.5 hours? If she's rejecting your advances, cut that shit off after the 2nd time, and make an excuse to end the date. Good job giving her all the power, dude.
Giving her all the power? How is that giving her all the power?
EDIT: my brother (who's good with women) once made out with a girl for 6 hours. >>
EDIT 2: happened just before he lost his virginity ad a matter of fact.
You gave her the power because you kept trying to have sex with her even though she rejected you many times.
Lol, what? I thought that was being persistand, not giving a f*ck, going after what I wanted, not being phazed by the woman, etc.
(07-12-2017, 07:08 AM)robstar Wrote: The powerful thing to do would be to have walked away because you had better things to do/other women who would actually have sex with you. OR to have decided that since you were enjoying the experience of making out you would chill out enjoy it and stop trying to escalate, let the burden be on her since she rejected you. What you did, was show that you are both desperate for sex, AND that she was your only option, both very unattractive places to be in.
Hmm. I guess that makes sense, but it's hard to be congruent with having other options when you don't.
(07-12-2017, 07:08 AM)robstar Wrote: It sounds to me despite saying that theory does not help that you are in need for some theory if you don't see why what you did was unattractive.
And we've been through this before, you've mentioned your brother was agreed to a committed relationship for a whole month before having sex with a girl, thats not a guy who's good with women thats a guy who takes what he can get. By the sounds of how you've described your brother, it sounds like he's good with PEOPLE/social skills and occasionally lucks in with women, and it seems he fits into this category: http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2016/01/2...be-alphas/
Fair enough. Well then we can say DMSI isn't working for me and I need to learn more pick up. >>
It's so confusing tho because like I said in the beginning of this response: I was following PUA concepts: be unfazed, go for what you want, be persistent. lol.
But then the advice does a complete 180.
Want to know my latest theory? here it is: if I would have banged her all that I did would be excused and I'd been hailed as a boss.
I really don't trust most of the advice I'm getting nowadays because of that.