05-07-2017, 06:45 PM
(05-07-2017, 03:58 PM)Nemanja Wrote:(05-07-2017, 03:07 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: So, I had a lot of time today to think about this question, and I went back some over my years and experiences with women to come to wherever I am today. I also had some realizations about DMSI in and of itself.
Let's start with how do I view love.
So, this might go against what is being preached out in the world now about masculinity and how feminism has eroded society. I think the idea of love has become a hallmark greeting card, but, even with that being the case, I think it's an incredibly important experience to have.
But, let me take a step back and refer to my post from yesterday. When I read that post from a purely intellectual standpoint, I honestly think "what an asshole." I slept with three different women over the course of a week, one of whom is going to be married in 2 weeks, another who I met at a rooftop bar on Friday night, and finally, one whom I've known for over 20 years.
It's especially easy to judge the woman whose going to be married in 2 weeks, and use that as a poster board for labeling why women can't be trusted and love is a farce.
But, the truth of the matter is, who you love and who you f*ck, aren't the same - sometimes they can be, but, more often they aren't.
What I've come to realize in my current state is that the deeper DMSI takes me into that reptilian portion of my brain, the more the norms of society make less sense to me. This is bad for two reasons.
One, I might be clinically insane.
Two, I am effectively going against the very things that most societies hold in value.
How does this affect my future relationships and views on love? Do I believe love still exists?
All of that being said, let me make a controversial statement now and say that I don't think just anyone should run DMSI.
If the end goal of DMSI is that we reach the pivotal point of going down to our base needs and it just becomes sex; while on some level it's amazing to think that you can have plenty of sex with extremely attractive women, pretty soon you'd have to ask yourself if this is all there is.
A lot of the younger guys on this forum like Eternity and Aventus, have already moved on from DMSI. And, I honestly think that was better for them.
Just wanted to chime in on a few things here, I quoted the parts I wanted to comment on.
Eternity and Aventus will both be going back to DMSI eventually.
As for the topic of love - I don't see a reason not to love every woman you sleep with, if that makes sense. I've been with my current girlfriend for what, 3 or 4 years now? And I never stopped myself from liking or loving another girl.
Nor do I bar her from doing the same thing.
Completely open and polyamorous.
Nothing is stopping people from loving and ***** 10 women at the same time.
For me personally, I love the conquest of a woman. The physical act is nice too, but the experience itself is more enthralling. But, there is also an energetic part about sex. Depending on your state, whether you allow yourself to open up and love the woman in that moment of sex, everything changes.
Think about masturbation and sex. They are both sexual in nature - but one is a one-way energetic exchange, while the other one is a two-way. This is one of the reasons why sex feels so much better, and 10 times better with a person you love.
As for the reptilian and value thing. I don't think you should be worried about societal norms so much. With the sexual aura, you'll only gain much more respect, and as for the norms, who gave a crap about them anyway?
Just the fact we are all running weird-ass tracks of ocean and river sounds supposedly imbued with affirmations makes us "out of the norm".
Anyway, i'd say the message behind my post is this - is there a real reason that we limit ourselves to only 1 partner that we can love, and treat any "one night stands" as completely physical, without any love?
P.S I also believe there is a difference in love, as in, how long we have loved a person, but that doesn't change a fact we can love someone anytime. It's such a shareable feeling, ye?
P.P.S Eternity is a grandpa, I'd say the youngest ones here are Aventus and me Don't know Reezox's age though
If Eternity is a Grandpa, I'm a f*cking mummy...
I think you and I are talking about two different things, from two different perspectives.
When I was in my early 20's, I fell in love on a daily basis. And I can't speak for you, but, as I got older and grew into who I am, I learned at least for myself what love is. It's a different thing for different people.
As for the conquest; conquests in the end ultimately serve as a form of self validation. It's the idea of being able to conquer someone, which is driven by a challenge. The reality of what happens with DMSI is a little different.
But, we're also talking from two different age perspectives here. As a 40 something, now running DMSI, my perspectives on what I am experiencing with women is, as I stated in my previous posts, just a physical act.
There is the energy exchange that happens, but energy is exchanged in most interactions between two human beings. We either connect, or repel each other. It's not to say that the sex wasn't incredible, it was. It was raw, powerful, uninhibited. But in the end, it's just sex.
The more it becomes about the physical act, the more desensitized you become to the emotional factors. It's acting on your most primal instincts. It goes back to a basic survival action in some way.
I didn't connect in any way to these women on an emotional level. It was purely physical. Even when I have sex with K, it's purely physical.
And that's the difference between having sex and making love to someone. Hence, why I say that who you f*ck isn't necessarily who you love.
There's a distinction between the two. At some point, I feel when you reach full execution of the goals of DMSI, it's about sex, not love.
Perhaps it will be different for you. However, let me pose this question to you.
if you knew that you could sleep with any woman at will, more importantly that women are throwing themselves to you, how long is it before a woman then becomes a disposable object.
Ultimately, DMSI at its full capacity, promises you just that.
And I think if that's where you end up too early, that will really f*ck you up significantly, from an emotional maturity standpoint.
This is the reason why I think it is important to have love, or experience a meaningful relationship. Because, at some point, the effects of DMSI may skew you to the point where the simplicity of love isn't something that is valued any longer.