(04-19-2017, 08:28 PM)CatMan Wrote: Oh for sure more information, both about her intentions in time, and about myself/developing independent of her is needed. I knew it would be a long road to get to where I've wanted to be with women. I'm doing my best to keep going down it, as long as it drives me!
Funny enough, she's done the staring at my lips thing, and putting on lip gloss etc. in front of me, lol. Others have as well. And all of the other stuff she's done along side the lip stuff, haha, so funny and contradictory. Maybe she's conflicted, like before DMSI, she had this view of me as harmless "beta" or whatever and now this is changing over time so she's not understanding how or why and it's causing a pull back instead of just responding to it "properly". I don't know. I mean at times she stares at me or walks by for no reason when it'd be easier to go another way to where she was going. At times putting on a perfume she knows I like when I show up as it wasn't on her beforehand when she first greets me, then conveniently walking by me after it's on to get me to smell it, lmao. Or seemingly talking to girls I know about me. Sometimes when I talk to girls, she would interrupt and physically get between lmao, or send them away, or keep walking back and forth in between us pretending to be doing something legit when it's clear she's trying to ruin the interaction, lol. All of that sounds great! But then, I get the nonsense stuff to derail it all, lol. If I see more behaviour that's encouraging over time, I'll just try to do something to go forward and ignore all the contrary "plausible deniability" stuff, so to speak. She's VERY insecure, I guess most extremely hot girls are as they're viewed with such scrutiny by others and especially themselves. So, a lot of that behaviour could've been creating plausible deniability to save her ego in front of people.
I will say that regardless, girls are FAR less of a big deal to me anymore. Like I said, I don't know anymore if it's girls themselves I'm more onto, or if it's just seeing the program work on me, like for the sport or the science of it. It's weird, but I certainly don't get nearly as wrapped up about them anymore. Whether that's the sub creating that or just a feeling of futility, I'm happy about that, as it was clear for a long time I was way too over interested and worried about girls and I'm sure that came across to them.
Thanks man.
Have you (recently) asked this girl if she wants to grab a drink one on one with you? I've banged girls where the conversation felt like pulling teeth, but there were other indicators of attraction so I went for it. My guess is some girls find it hard to talk to guys they're attracted to and it comes across as stand-offishness because they don't want to appear weak/shy. A few times I've been like, man why is she so standoffish and then I realised I was being the exact same way in my attempt to not show how interested I am! Often it's best to engage these girls in messages, you could write something like "Hey feel like we haven't chatted properly in ages, you free for a drink this week?"
Turning super saiyan.
