09-11-2016, 08:42 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-11-2016, 08:43 AM by SargeMaximus.)
(09-11-2016, 08:34 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote:(09-11-2016, 08:13 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Still can't figure out why you gave the girl your phone to text #3. Sounds like self-sabotage to me...
In retrospect, I'm inclined to agree with you.
It's crazy how it doesn't seem that way in the moment, because the little game were were playing directly led to me hooking up with the chick (we'll call her "L") in the first place. She was getting really turned on by how many online matches I had and how I was getting all their numbers and setting dates, but made the suggestion that those "tactics" would only led to superficial sexual relationships and not true intimacy -- which I'm interested in exploring.
Ah, she exploited your naivete, not much defense against that. Happens to me all the time I'm sure.
(09-11-2016, 08:34 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: L sold a good game too. The beginning of the conversation was working well. #3 seemed to be hanging off "my" (the chick's) every word, telling me how jealous she was that I was traveling and how she couldn't wait to see me. It was the day AFTER the concert, after we hooked up that she took it to the next level and went beta.
I'm not sure what my L's game was. To me, it seemed like we were having a great time at the concert -- was dancing like crazy, plus I knew all the lyrics to all the songs and was rapping my ass off. L (and a bunch of the other chicks) found that extremely attractive and was literally abandoning their men to come dance with me and my friend. Had my hands all over her the entire time. She even put on her old engagement ring (which she broke off earlier this year) and was telling women that tried to approach me that she was my wife.
IMO, that was the red flag. She was getting possessive and trying to ward off other women. I know it must have been impossible to tell at the time, but reading it right now and knowing what happened, I'd say this was a good indicator.
(09-11-2016, 08:34 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: After the concert, we just went back to my hotel, walked into the room and just started kissing. No shit tests, no arguments, none of that antagonistic shit that sometimes happens before sex.
You must tell me more about the "antagonistic shit that sometimes happens before sex". I get the feeling this happens to me all the time but I always back off.
(09-11-2016, 08:34 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: Next morning, she asked what I thought of what happened the night before. I said, "two people had a great time at a concert and that fun spilled over into the bedroom." She giggled, said that she did have a lot of fun and didn't want to look too far into what happened. I was like, "cool with me -- no reason why two consenting adults can't go out for a night on the town and enjoy it." She really seemed to like that answer and I really meant my words. I thought everything was cool. Later that day, we went to grab some food. She asked if I heard from #3. I said yea, but hadn't responded yet. She asked for my phone. At this point, I PROMISE, I had the CRAZIEST feeling of resistance, like I shouldn't hand the phone over. I even wondered if that was the autopilot warning me or something. But, I ignored it since everything SEEMED cool, y'know.
Yeah I get you. I've had the same thing in sales. I feel certain vibes and sometimes I decide to listen, but other times I think to myself "well, those feelings are just insecurity (or some other thing that makes them invalid) so I should go ahead with it." It's really hard to tell the difference between a valid intuition feeling and one based on fear or erroneous conclusions.
(09-11-2016, 08:34 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: Later that night, I looked at the messages she sent and straight up cringed. Like, wtf. I mean, I guess they weren't THAT bad, but it's not something you really send to someone you've only hung out with three times and chatted via text.
I did end up semi-confronting the chick, but not in a needy way. Just said #3 hadn't responded. She claims that the message is great -- she blames the fact that I waited like, 8 hours to respond. The reason I did, however, was because #3 texted me at like 1:30a to ask how I was doing. I generally don't chat via text that late at night.
Anyway, it's a bunch of craziness and I've learned my lesson. Gotta trust my instincts more in the future.
There is the possibility that #3 hasn't seen the message. SMALL possibility. Her phone is messed up (she showed this to me on a date) and for some reason, she doesn't get text notifications. She only knows when you've texted her when she consciously looks for your name. Since I waited so long to message her, it IS probable that she stopped looking and hasn't looked again. Probable, but unlikely.
I guess the "hail mary" in this situation is to text #3 as if you never sent the other messages and hope she plays along?