08-17-2016, 12:03 PM
(08-17-2016, 10:24 AM)CatMan Wrote: Probably a combination of chronic long term rejection, fear of more of it, a resulting belief that you aren't attractive and it's impossible due to the rejections and won't get the women you want. A large overvaluing of women, a large undervaluing of men further complicates this. And decades of rampant feminazism demonising and shaming any kind of male sexual interest making us endlessly self-censor and feel boxed in while watching "alpha douchebags" do the opposite of what is a "real man" according to feminists, and get massive results with women. Quite a noxious soup there. I think you shut down all those instincts about women and stop trying to interpret possible subtle signs of attraction in a positive light and just discount them because they don't match the long term, and far more charged, past failures. After awhile you just think it will never happen and you'll never have success with women. Never knowing WHY exactly this is happening.
All of my friends, have settled down with very unattractive girls, for the same reason. They gave up and out of desperation they went for "a girl that I will always be much more attractive than so I have the power finally and she won't cheat on me and leave me". Nice mind set there, huh? I'm the last one left, the last one unmarried or in a relationship of any sort. But I refuse to surrender like that to a woman I KNOW should be below me in real normally functioning SMV, after what I've accomplished. So I'm single and always have been. My only other theory is the gold digger thing may need reframing, but they are so obvious to detect I can't help but think many times it's right on the money (aha, pun!) so this one is tougher to figure out. Maybe I'm so used to it now, and due to the long term rejections and beliefs about girls being impossible to get BEFORE I became successful, I equate girls "showing interest" as a gold digger or I outright think it isn't possible for her to actually like me and I must be wishful thinking or something from her must be misinterpreted, and shut it down.
I don't know if it's an issue of Goal #2 needing to be far more potent, or if it's a case of needing to see real life results in order to realise change is possible with women and can happen. I'm not sure which, or if it's both. I'm currently of the opinion that talk is cheap and "IOIs" can be easily misinterpreted because you want to see progress. And that real life results are all that matters, and I feel real life results can't be argued against, even with a negative past.
I agree with all of this, EXCEPT the IOI hatred. Yes, they can be misinterpreted, but reading body language is an art form like any other. It's not even that hard to become at it. You learn the basic theory, watch for patterns and watch how people's body language changes based on what you're saying or doing. Then, start trying to change their state. Eventually, you'll get good at it.
My DMSI successes are possible through reading body language. These IOIs that you're trying to negate as worthless? No -- it is the KEY indicator that informs me when to escalate.
Her outer body language is DIRECTLY tied to her inner state.
You're saying you're being rational and logical, saying "I need proof to believe this," but then you're casting aside the evidence being presented to you without investigating it. In my opinion, that's not true skepticism. A true skeptic withholds judgment until he or she has investigated all outcomes. You're not investigating body language and IOIs. You're just saying, "pfft, can't be real." You won't get to "real life" results without investigating body language.