08-13-2016, 02:28 PM
(08-13-2016, 01:53 PM)Steven Wrote: Shannon,
I was reading some of your posts about reproduction and wondering if these additions to DMSI might help...
1) all of the following would be triggered at a level below consciousness and maybe even below the subconscious, and maybe even below the level of instinct:
2) responders have it triggered in them that the user would provide them with the best DNA for their offspring
That gets us into the slippery slope of she's trying to get pregnant/he's trying to get her pregnant when that is undesired in the user...
Quote:3) responders have it triggered in them that the user would provide them with the best chance for ongoing long term survival for them
I don't think this would connect the right way for the result we are aiming for. I have done experiments with this sort of thing in the past.
Quote:4) responders have it triggered in them that the user would provide them with the best chance of ongoing long term survival for their offspring
this is likely to produce the issue of #2 and introduce a chance of "she's looking for a father for her existing child".
Quote:5) responders have it triggered in them that the user would provide them with the best DNA for ongoing long term survival of their offspring
See #2.
Quote:6) responders have it triggered in them that the user and the user's DNA is unique (one and only)
That the user is unique is useful but the DNA being unique is likely to lead us back to the issues of #2.
Quote:7) responders have it triggered in them that all their potential competition would want the user and the user's DNA, to the point of wanting to monopolize the user and the user's DNA
Back to #2...
Quote:8) responders have it triggered in them that access and availability to the user and the user's DNA is very limited in amount of time they could spend with the user in each moment and the number of moments that the user would be available over all (limit by frequency of availability and duration of time spent with the user during that availability)
Scarcity of access could be used to enhance motivation, but I'm avoiding the DNA thing.
Quote:9) responders have it triggered in them that they need to do everything they can to make sure they gain the favor and priority of the user
This is definitely useful.
Quote:10) responders have it triggered in them that the user is the most fit in all ways possible and will therefore provide the most fit offspring in all ways possible
Back to trying to get reproduced, Steven? We want sex, not reproduction.
Quote:11) responders have it triggered in them that there will only be positive outcomes for them as a result of having sex with the user
This gets into some dangerous waters if/when it's not true... making people feel betrayed and lied to, even subconsciously, isn't a good idea.
Quote:12) responders have it triggered in them that all their potential competition would have all of the above triggered in them as well
The reiterative approach. Interesting.
Quote:Maybe your model might indicate some modifications to keep them benevolent.
I'll have to consider this for 2.4+, because 2.3 is going to be an attempt to fix 2.2 and I want to keep it simple. But there are a couple good ideas there for sure.
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