The Path to Alphaness AM5

[JackOfHearts]

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[Shannon]

You're not supposed to use NG with AM because they have conflicting goals. AM is trying to make you more masculine in your focus, and NG is trying to make you more feminine. AM is focusing you to work inwardly on achieving your potential, and NG (as I understand it) is focusing you on making yourself attractive to women, which is external. You cannot focus and work internally while you focus and work externally. Focusing externally is why most men fail with women: they are not building themselves up into what they can potentially be. Instead, they focus on the woman and the superficial of what women think they want, not becoming what women are naturally and automatically attracted to as a whole.

It is okay to use NG after AM, if you like, but the two will tend to work against each other while you are doing AM. It's a darned good thing you didn't use it before Stage 4... but my recommendation is to finish the program before using it again.

I don't claim to be expert on NG, so if I'm wrong, please by all means, correct me. But this is what I advise based on my current understanding.

AM is not about directly getting to sex with women, it;s about getting to your own highest masculine potential. Sex with and attraction from women is a natural result when you do that. NG does not grow you, as far as I can tell, but puts you in tune with women sexually. AM grows you and makes you achieve that potential within you that is naturally what women are looking for in a man.

[stratos]

NG doesn't "make you more feminine", it gives you a natural appreciation of the feminine, which is very alpha and in my opinion consistent with alpha goals. Keep in mind, it's the resentful, snipy beta that doesn't appreciate, enjoy, and love women.

[Shannon]

I will have to read more about it, because right now I'm so tired I can't make sense of what I'm reading.

[JackOfHearts]

1) Based on the official natural grounding site NG is supposed to shift my thinking about women. To make me feel the real value of women so it seems to me it work on the inside. But I think you are right about not using NG with AM5 because as of now no one understand the 2 product completely . Thanks for the advice, I was thinking of that too but I loved too much how I feel now. Maybe I will stop it .

2) Im going to use LTU after AM5 so what about LTU and NG is it better to use them than with AM5.

3) By the way how do I get the last part of AM5 when I downloaded all parts one by one?

[aDelfino]

I start using AM6 stage 1 (16 days) and I start doing NG 30' at day (9 days)
my experience until now...more confidence to talk a women and women talk to me naturally.
I think one benefit of NG is the way you look the women, not as sexual object but as person and they feel that, especially with beautiful's women.

Also I notice one side effect... I can't spark sexual desire in her, seems that they see me only a friend, or a person that they can trust but there isn't any sexual attraction after that.
But probably I'm doing wrong something.
Also NG stopped me to watch porn, before I used to watch at least one a day or every two days for 10/20 mins.

Also I think AM6 is very powerful and really wash your brain.

[JackOfHearts]

I start using AM6 stage 1 (16 days) and I start doing NG 30' at day (9 days)
my experience until now...more confidence to talk a women and women talk to me naturally.
I think one benefit of NG is the way you look the women, not as sexual object but as person and they feel that, especially with beautiful's women.

Also I notice one side effect... I can't spark sexual desire in her, seems that they see me only a friend, or a person that they can trust but there isn't any sexual attraction after that.
But probably I'm doing wrong something.
Also NG stopped me to watch porn, before I used to watch at least one a day or every two days for 10/20 mins.

Also I think AM6 is very powerful and really wash your brain.

Same thing for me, I don't feel any desire to watch porn since I started NG.

[JackOfHearts]

I Just got sick and I bought Maximum immune response. Shannon is it possible to use it with AM5. I know MIR is 5g but if we are constantly using subliminal like everyone else in this forum then it will be impossible to use MIR in my entire life.

I found the answer : http://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Maximu...hlight=MIR

[JackOfHearts]

I just got healed in 2 hours that's crazy, now I am 100% your sub is really working. You are a great guy Shannon. Why did I discover your sub only 5 month ago, I would have been already rich and famous if I knew that 5 years ago.

Update: I think I didn't heal so fast, still a bit sick in the night, but I think the sub help me a lot. I listened MIR 12h through the night with headphone.

[Benjamin]

NG doesn't "make you more feminine", it gives you a natural appreciation of the feminine, which is very alpha and in my opinion consistent with alpha goals. Keep in mind, it's the resentful, snipy beta that doesn't appreciate, enjoy, and love women.

My experience is that it does. It made me way too emotional, passive and unable to take action when I needed to. Sitting around crying and getting upset at women on videos is not inherently masculine. I did have 1 or 2 times when things flowed and I had no fear at all and was just approaching heaps but it never stuck.

[JackOfHearts]

NG doesn't "make you more feminine", it gives you a natural appreciation of the feminine, which is very alpha and in my opinion consistent with alpha goals. Keep in mind, it's the resentful, snipy beta that doesn't appreciate, enjoy, and love women.

My experience is that it does. It made me way too emotional, passive and unable to take action when I needed to. Sitting around crying and getting upset at women on videos is not inherently masculine. I did have 1 or 2 times when things flowed and I had no fear at all and was just approaching heaps but it never stuck.

I just experienced what Benjamin said and I lost control. I'm gonna stop NG. Only things I'll regret is the anti porn in the NG. I almost stop it already and this morning I got some amazing not wanted erection

[stratos]

I still say it's not "making" you weak and passive towards women, it's bringing your weakness and passiveness to the surface. The crying is a release of that. Otherwise your weakness towards women will need some other way to be let out. Hence Benjamin's comment about having occasional moments of flow and no fear.

[JackOfHearts]

I read from www.naturalgrounding.net that the porn industry has skewed our vision of women. If that true I'm sure Shannon's sub has something in it to destroy this reality. I think Shannon sub are more reliable NG so maybe if I don't get result from his subs I'm gonna try NG alone.

[Shannon]

I just got healed in 2 hours that's crazy, now I am 100% your sub is really working. You are a great guy Shannon. Why did I discover your sub only 5 month ago, I would have been already rich and famous if I knew that 5 years ago.

Update: I think I didn't heal so fast, still a bit sick in the night, but I think the sub help me a lot. I listened MIR 12h through the night with headphone.

You're supposed to use MIR 24/7 until 3 days AFTER you think the symptoms and infection are gone. That's because otherwise, it starts coming back... just like if you don't finish a course of antibiotics. You have to kill ALL of the invaders, even when they're too weak to have obvious effects.