Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8

[Shannon]

Thanks for your response

About Maverick I cannot see it in the shop and not sure what is that program doing

I've looked it up again and again are you sure it's available to all?

It is not currently being offered for sale.  There are some changes to the store and the back end that need to be completed before we can offer any Premium programs again.  That should be finished sometime next month.  Maverick will likely be made available between 0 and 3 days per month after that.

Maverick is a complex Premium program with a long description. In a nutshell, it;s for advanced subliminal users to achieve their fullest potential as men. You should read the whole description when you can.

[Johannesbrst]

That's interesting 
Personally I don't think money will get women or make a man more attractive 
I know a guy who have no money and had great results with beautiful girls.

Maybe it is the result of doing AM6 first+ non neediness 

But if what you say is the case it's very interesting 

Personally I do have a money problem that can get in the way of long term relationships but not one night stands 
As I understand sex magnet supposed to attract more one night stands 
Again I'm not complaining and I don't really care about the results at least not now. Currently I care more about my life than women.
But I'm curious to understand it 
I mean if my subconscious mind see that for me to be a sex magnet I need to be super successful 
Then all I need to do is AM6+SM3 and in few years I'll probably be a millionaire 
I'm far from a millionaire but my subconscious mind is trying to push me to the rich man's land

What you're not understanding is this:

Money will only trigger some women... some women will respond to his intelligence... some will respond to his physique... some will respond to the way he smells... or the way he looks... or how educated he is... or what his job is... or how powerful he is... or how old he is... or how tall he is... or how closely he resembles her father... or how he has sex with her... and so on and so forth.  Just as with men, women are not all alike.  They all have different specific experiences and beliefs and personalities and physiologies and triggers.  Also, N=1 means nothing.  Knowing "a guy who" is statistically meaningless.  You can't draw a conclusion about all women (or all men) from that.

What I am saying is that if you're having that response, then some part of ou at a subconscious level believes that money and success is a way to be more sexually attractive to women.  And with regard to the women who are triggered by those things, that is correct.  But that is not all women.

However, ALL women will respond to one thing, and that is a man who can make her feel SECURE.  And guess what kind of man makes all women feel secure?  A wealthy and successful one.  So I'd say you're on the right track. 

I would argue that women feel secure around men that feel secure within himself. And most men relate feeling secure with being financially successful. If you however are able to feel secure within yourself from other sources, women will feel secure around you as well.

[MrGnome]

Thought I'd pop in and say "Hi!"

Been awhile.  Too long.  For those of you who have been wondering about where I've been, I wanted make a little post about that.
So, let's back up a bit:  

About a year after COVID hit, I was in a bad car fire.  I mentioned this on the forum, as I was then running OF, and I'm positive it helped me act to save myself.  Got banged up, but made it through alive.  The nasty part was the PTSD that followed.  High anxiety, depression, and a much greater alcohol intake.  I found myself withdrawing from a lot of the things I used to enjoy, including this forum.  Even so, I maintained contact with Shannon throughout, and he continues to be a very close personal friend to this day. Now, 3 years later, I have most of those issues handled.  Anxiety and depression are under control, and my alcohol use is greatly reduced.  I still slip here and there, but I'm happy to be where I'm at.  I'm also back to doing a lot of the things I value most.

Regarding IML and my continued involvement with it, here's a little tidbit that may surprise you: I have been helping Shannon out as a tester for years.  Furthermore, around late 2021 (or early 2022, I don't recall, exactly), I asked Shannon if he would create a custom single-stage for me.  I wanted it to be something useful for me, but a title that he could also sell through IML as well.  He agreed, and I ran it for months.  I had some really interesting results and experiences.  But, Shannon wanted additional feedback about the program, so I suggested he bring on Duke as a tester.  I've known Duke for several years and vouched for him.  Shannon thought about it, vetted Duke, and then accepted him as a tester. Duke ran my custom single-stage for a few months, and consequently came up with several very interesting and valuable insights. 
He even suggested a new name for that little-'ole-custom of mine:

Maverick.

I haven't been able to journal, because I'm often running something Shannon needs feedback on.  I could have been here sharing insights and feedback on your journals, or just chattin' everyone up, but I haven't, and I apologize for that.  I miss being active on the forum, and plan to be around and more involved in the future.

Hope you all are doing well, and I look forward to catching up with you!

RTB

Welcome Back RTBoss! 

Sounds like you had to go through a lot of bad things by the time I joined the Forum

I hope things are better for you now..

[Shannon]

What you're not understanding is this:

Money will only trigger some women... some women will respond to his intelligence... some will respond to his physique... some will respond to the way he smells... or the way he looks... or how educated he is... or what his job is... or how powerful he is... or how old he is... or how tall he is... or how closely he resembles her father... or how he has sex with her... and so on and so forth.  Just as with men, women are not all alike.  They all have different specific experiences and beliefs and personalities and physiologies and triggers.  Also, N=1 means nothing.  Knowing "a guy who" is statistically meaningless.  You can't draw a conclusion about all women (or all men) from that.

What I am saying is that if you're having that response, then some part of ou at a subconscious level believes that money and success is a way to be more sexually attractive to women.  And with regard to the women who are triggered by those things, that is correct.  But that is not all women.

However, ALL women will respond to one thing, and that is a man who can make her feel SECURE.  And guess what kind of man makes all women feel secure?  A wealthy and successful one.  So I'd say you're on the right track. 

I would argue that women feel secure around men that feel secure within himself. And most men relate feeling secure with being financially successful. If you however are able to feel secure within yourself from other sources, women will feel secure around you as well.

A woman's desire for security boils down to basic survival instincts.  She wants to know she's going to be safe with this man, and if she gets pregnant that he can and will feed and defend her and the baby if need be.  Shelter, food, etc.  It's not that women are helpless, but that they're human, and humans still have these worries deep down.  Women these days can make it on their own, but her primal brain is still doing what it's done to help her stay alive for the last 250,000 years regardless.

A man who is secure in himself does not guarantee to her lizard brain that she'll be fed, or kept, or protected or that he'll protect her kid with him.  It's a piece of the puzzle, but not the key. 

This is why women respond so strongly to Wealth, Power and Fame.  Those things most accurately point to... he can and will take care of me and the baby, he can and will defend me and the baby, he can and will feed me and the baby.  Again, this is not the neo-cortex we are dealing with here, it's the brain stem.

[Darwin]

Hey Shannon,

Thanks for coming back to doing something on self esteem. This is something I have wanted for a long time. I had a couple of suggestions for your consideration.

Self compassion. Most of the time self esteem and respect falters because we don’t have the skill of being compassionate to our mistakes, and we adopt inappropriate means of self soothing when the inevitable fuck ups happen. Being able to release that oxytocin, be forgiving to yourself helps to get back on the wagon. Embedding the skill of effective self soothing would be helpful.  

Self assertiveness. A big part of self respect is being faithful to your own soul. This means being able to say no and follow you consciousness. Failure to do this results in self betrayal and then breaks consciousness because you have to ignore more and more of what your inner self is saying. 

Finally there is consciousness itself. Being able to see and pay attention to what is. The reality, rather than the mental story. Having this, being able to trust your own mind feels like it’s the fundamental key that’s missing. Once you can trust your mind, forgive where you fall short, and then act on what you can clearly reason - pick up what to take responsibility for and be purposeful - that’s it. Self esteem unlocked. That’s what I want forever.

Just some thoughts. I’ve been struggling with this for as long as I can remember and I’m pretty tired of it. Feels like I’ve got no future at the moment because I just never get there - and often it’s my own inner critic which is killing my progress.

Peace.

[ncbeareatingman]

Wow. What an open and honest fellow you are Darwin. Salute and much respect Man.
Keith.

quote="Darwin" pid='264405' dateline='1719178586']
Hey Shannon,

Thanks for coming back to doing something on self esteem. This is something I have wanted for a long time. I had a couple of suggestions for your consideration.

Self compassion. Most of the time self esteem and respect falters because we don’t have the skill of being compassionate to our mistakes, and we adopt inappropriate means of self soothing when the inevitable fuck ups happen. Being able to release that oxytocin, be forgiving to yourself helps to get back on the wagon. Embedding the skill of effective self soothing would be helpful.  

Self assertiveness. A big part of self respect is being faithful to your own soul. This means being able to say no and follow you consciousness. Failure to do this results in self betrayal and then breaks consciousness because you have to ignore more and more of what your inner self is saying. 

Finally there is consciousness itself. Being able to see and pay attention to what is. The reality, rather than the mental story. Having this, being able to trust your own mind feels like it’s the fundamental key that’s missing. Once you can trust your mind, forgive where you fall short, and then act on what you can clearly reason - pick up what to take responsibility for and be purposeful - that’s it. Self esteem unlocked. That’s what I want forever.

Just some thoughts. I’ve been struggling with this for as long as I can remember and I’m pretty tired of it. Feels like I’ve got no future at the moment because I just never get there - and often it’s my own inner critic which is killing my progress.

Peace.
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[Shannon]

Hey Shannon,

Thanks for coming back to doing something on self esteem. This is something I have wanted for a long time. I had a couple of suggestions for your consideration.

Self compassion. Most of the time self esteem and respect falters because we don’t have the skill of being compassionate to our mistakes, and we adopt inappropriate means of self soothing when the inevitable fuck ups happen. Being able to release that oxytocin, be forgiving to yourself helps to get back on the wagon. Embedding the skill of effective self soothing would be helpful.  

Self assertiveness. A big part of self respect is being faithful to your own soul. This means being able to say no and follow you consciousness. Failure to do this results in self betrayal and then breaks consciousness because you have to ignore more and more of what your inner self is saying. 

Finally there is consciousness itself. Being able to see and pay attention to what is. The reality, rather than the mental story. Having this, being able to trust your own mind feels like it’s the fundamental key that’s missing. Once you can trust your mind, forgive where you fall short, and then act on what you can clearly reason - pick up what to take responsibility for and be purposeful - that’s it. Self esteem unlocked. That’s what I want forever.

Just some thoughts. I’ve been struggling with this for as long as I can remember and I’m pretty tired of it. Feels like I’ve got no future at the moment because I just never get there - and often it’s my own inner critic which is killing my progress.

Peace.

I think you will appreciate what I've been working on. 

[Determined]

Hi Shannon,

Thank you for ongoing work at IML. I truly appreciate what you do for our community.

Just wondering if “self-adequacy” is in the Self subliminal?

P.s Welcome back RT. I had wondered where you were.

Thank you kindly

[Shannon]

Hi Shannon,

Thank you for ongoing work at IML. I truly appreciate what you do for our community.

Just wondering if “self-adequacy” is in the Self subliminal?

P.s Welcome back RT. I had wondered where you were.

Thank you kindly

Being good enough is covered.

[4Kingdoms]

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid264417

I am done developing the Key Script for Self Development 5.11G.

In the end, 40 goals were considered, and a whopping 38 made it in.

CLICK THE LINK TO FIND OUT WHICH GOALS MADE THE CUT

[Darwin]

Hey Shannon,

Thanks for coming back to doing something on self esteem. This is something I have wanted for a long time. I had a couple of suggestions for your consideration.

Self compassion. Most of the time self esteem and respect falters because we don’t have the skill of being compassionate to our mistakes, and we adopt inappropriate means of self soothing when the inevitable fuck ups happen. Being able to release that oxytocin, be forgiving to yourself helps to get back on the wagon. Embedding the skill of effective self soothing would be helpful.  

Self assertiveness. A big part of self respect is being faithful to your own soul. This means being able to say no and follow you consciousness. Failure to do this results in self betrayal and then breaks consciousness because you have to ignore more and more of what your inner self is saying. 

Finally there is consciousness itself. Being able to see and pay attention to what is. The reality, rather than the mental story. Having this, being able to trust your own mind feels like it’s the fundamental key that’s missing. Once you can trust your mind, forgive where you fall short, and then act on what you can clearly reason - pick up what to take responsibility for and be purposeful - that’s it. Self esteem unlocked. That’s what I want forever.

Just some thoughts. I’ve been struggling with this for as long as I can remember and I’m pretty tired of it. Feels like I’ve got no future at the moment because I just never get there - and often it’s my own inner critic which is killing my progress.

Peace.

I think you will appreciate what I've been working on. 

Thanks Shannon, great to see the post on goals as well. One thing I thought I’d shoot at you in case it’s not somewhere there is self responsibility - that sense that ‘no one is coming’ and it’s on me. It puts the centre of power within you and brings inner strength, and supports everything by giving you a sense of your own efficacy. Fundamentally, competence and a sense of how I have it and I am cultivating it daily is the power button that makes me ok with myself, being dependent on others for validation kills it - whilst having my own internal locus of responsibility and self satisfaction that I’m doing what I need to gives me strength

[4Kingdoms]

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid264426

I have made some executive decisions regarding X4A-2000
I've decided that I'm going to make it available as a Premium. 

Price has not been determined yet. 
Release date has not been determined yet.

As always with Premiums, there will be absolutely no refunds for any reason whatsoever.

[callie]

Didn’t see self acceptance as one of the goals in self development. Will it make it in?

[Frankie]

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid263414

1. X4A-2000's Key Script is finally finished being developed after something like 7 months. I don't have a lot of time to work on it right now, so it may not get built this month, but after it gets built it will go into testing for a while. I'm hoping to test it personally AND have at least one of my T2/T3 testers also test it. I expect testing to last between 1 and 4 months, possibly as long as 6. If it passes testing, it will be released as a Premium program. Whereas the 1xxx branch of X4A is as wide and general as possible, X4A-2000 is more focused in the type of woman I expect it to be useful for.

2. When 6G rolls around, I will be re-building X4A-1511 in 6G as X4A-1600. The 1xxx branch is so good that it is well worth doing that. Also, the 2xxx and later branches will have very different goals and approaches, ad be Premium programs. X4A-1600 is not planned to be a Premium program.

So glad that X4A-1600 would be available down the road since that's supposed to "cast a wider net" if I weren't mistaken, while an upgrade to 6G shouldn't hurt either.

OTOH, other programs in 6G would still take priority and therefore X4A-1600 might not be built in a fairly long time then?

BTW, most likely DMSI could very well be yet another candidate for an upgrade at some point?