Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon,

Is it possible turn off the Chemical-State Shifting (Caffiene, etc) in UMS V2 just like it is now, in OF V3?

It seems to working very well.

 Excellent question, Man....

 My guess on Shannon's response would be something to the  of effect ,door # 1,2,3 'er 4

 1)  The script is frozen too late
 2) We'll see what the models say
 3) NO, not a good idea in this case 
 4) Or  ????

   Inquiring minds...... I'd like to see what his actual answer(s) will be though,too.

[Shannon]

@Shannon Hey Shannon just wanted to thank you for making OFv3. Started a thread already to see if I can provide any feed back or data (despite not really feeling like making a thread but I know how important this work is). Anyway, thanks for going through the effort of getting the FRM 5.0 done as it seems to be the missing key. Thanks to OFv3 I am certain I will be ready to complete the goals for other subs as they come out (obviously I will keep running OFv3 for the time being). Its funny wasn't as interested anymore to run DMSI  but with how good the tech is I admit I am quite curious to see how extreme the results will be especially since after I've dealt with such a huge amount of fear. Same goes for UMSv2.

I do want to ask so will you be working on the new DMSI after your done with UMSv then? Once again thanks for all the good work your doing.

P.S. I did end up using Hybrid version after a few weeks of only doing ultrasonic. I didn't find it overpower at all really and it actually even worked better in my case. So I really hope in future subs you will keep it in. Maybe just for certain people it might be too overpowering?

DMSI is going to be what I work on after UMSv2, but remember that I also have to build at least one program per month that is not UMSv2 and I also have to build NSLW.  

As to hybrid working better, that's interesting.  Any more details you can give on how hybrid works are appreciated.

[Shannon]

Shannon,

Is it possible turn off the Chemical-State Shifting (Caffiene, etc) in UMS V2 just like it is now, in OF V3?

It seems to working very well.

It is off already in that script.

[DarthXedonias]

DMSI is going to be what I work on after UMSv2, but remember that I also have to build at least one program per month that is not UMSv2 and I also have to build NSLW.  

As to hybrid working better, that's interesting.  Any more details you can give on how hybrid works are appreciated.

I think I have an idea as to why. I can only talk to Hybrid and ultrasonic as I haven't even touched masked. One thing I noticed with Ultrasonic is that I would get to 2 loops with my head starting to feel full or even slight pain yet my subconscious would tell me to keep going on to 3 loops. With Hybrid I would get to 2 loops, feel really good and relaxed yet my subconscious would tell me to end it there. I think the Ultrasonic by itself might cause more resistance while maybe hybrid is at the right amount of power that the subconscious just gives into it. Maybe it believes it can't resist Hybrid so it doesn't even try to. 

As for results feel a lot more relaxed, calm and powerful. I do notice their seems to be this almost electric feeling energy coursing through my body. Sometimes I feel it most powerfully in the area right below my navel.

[GreekGod22]

Can anyone tell me how long one should do the 2 days ON - 3 days off cycle on OFv3 before changing the OFF days or number of loops?

[Shannon]

DMSI is going to be what I work on after UMSv2, but remember that I also have to build at least one program per month that is not UMSv2 and I also have to build NSLW.  

As to hybrid working better, that's interesting.  Any more details you can give on how hybrid works are appreciated.

I think I have an idea as to why. I can only talk to Hybrid and ultrasonic as I haven't even touched masked. One thing I noticed with Ultrasonic is that I would get to 2 loops with my head starting to feel full or even slight pain yet my subconscious would tell me to keep going on to 3 loops. With Hybrid I would get to 2 loops, feel really good and relaxed yet my subconscious would tell me to end it there. I think the Ultrasonic by itself might cause more resistance while maybe hybrid is at the right amount of power that the subconscious just gives into it. Maybe it believes it can't resist Hybrid so it doesn't even try to. 

As for results feel a lot more relaxed, calm and powerful. I do notice their seems to be this almost electric feeling energy coursing through my body. Sometimes I feel it most powerfully in the area right below my navel.

IF your subconscious can actually decode Hybrid format, then you're getting 2x the input per loop.  3 loops of ultrasonic is less input than 2 loops of Hybrid.  I don't think it's resistance, personally.

[Shannon]

Can anyone tell me how long one should do the 2 days ON - 3 days off cycle on OFv3 before changing the OFF days or number of loops?

14 days minimum.  Then change it only if you feel the need.  The exception is if your subconscious directs you to a specific number of days on/days off/loops per day that does not constitute a reduction of exposure.

[DarthXedonias]

IF your subconscious can actually decode Hybrid format, then you're getting 2x the input per loop.  3 loops of ultrasonic is less input than 2 loops of Hybrid.  I don't think it's resistance, personally.

Yeah, well then I'm stumped. I have no idea what it could be. Guess I'm just unique then and one of the few people that can handle it. In your opinion is their a "decent" size of people who can handle hybrid to justify you keeping it as a format Choice?

[UniversalMan]

Hey @Shannon , so, I am on OF v3 ,11 days in....
I was thinking to change the listening schedule to1 loop per day. 3 days on, 4 days off (why? I really do not know) , what are your thoughts on that?

Right now I am on the original schedule 1 loop ,2 days on, 3 days off

Also, when listening before going to sleep, I have a really hard time to fall asleep, and when listening thru the day I crave sleep and I need to go for a nap LOL.

Why would you go for more days off?  I'm suspicious of that.

Yup,it made no sense to me neither so i stopped thinking about that,and started "listening" if I got crawings, and I do....on the first day off I had the crawing for more, but did not listen.

Obviously need to change something, curent scedule is original (1 loop, 2 days on,3 days off)
What do you think? To just do 1 day less off, or try listening 2 loops 2days on 3 days off?

[Vasil]

Hey Shannon, is a new version of OED on the radar or at least near the top of the list of subs to get created yet?

OED is not in queue right now.  I have to finish some other things first.  Once those are done, we may explore that one.  But before I build that one, I want to build Universal Healing, which may be helpful for some causes of ED.  OED is a complex challenge, and so far my efforts to work in the direction of OED and triggering erectile responses have shown me that it's more complex than I originally thought it was.  It may take more R&D once I am free to work in that direction.

Following up on the OED theme, two questions for @Shannon

1) Would you expect that the FRM in the next DMSI would resolve ED for those for whom ED is a manifestation of a subconscious fear of sex (which as you noted in previous posts, is also why many are not executing DMSI to begin with)?

2) If achieving design goal through DMSI turns out to be too difficult because it relies on the cooperation of third parties (those influenced by the aura), would you be able to achieve the same result, i.e. getting to sex, through a different program that incorporates elements of AM, NSFM, etc. In other words, by making the user better at seduction instead of relying on the more passive methods DMSI does? This would be beneficial for those of us who ultimately just want to get at the end goal regardless of whether the route is more passive or active.

[Shannon]

IF your subconscious can actually decode Hybrid format, then you're getting 2x the input per loop.  3 loops of ultrasonic is less input than 2 loops of Hybrid.  I don't think it's resistance, personally.

Yeah, well then I'm stumped. I have no idea what it could be. Guess I'm just unique then and one of the few people that can handle it. In your opinion is their a "decent" size of people who can handle hybrid to justify you keeping it as a format Choice?

I have too little data at this time to even say for sure that Hybrid even works for anyone.  Only two people have reported, and gave completely different experiences.  I don't know yet.

[Shannon]

Hey @Shannon , so, I am on OF v3 ,11 days in....
I was thinking to change the listening schedule to1 loop per day. 3 days on, 4 days off (why? I really do not know) , what are your thoughts on that?

Right now I am on the original schedule 1 loop ,2 days on, 3 days off

Also, when listening before going to sleep, I have a really hard time to fall asleep, and when listening thru the day I crave sleep and I need to go for a nap LOL.

Why would you go for more days off?  I'm suspicious of that.

Yup,it made no sense to me neither so i stopped thinking about that,and started "listening" if I got crawings, and I do....on the first day off I had the crawing for more, but did not listen.

Obviously need to change something, curent scedule is original (1 loop, 2 days on,3 days off)
What do you think? To just do 1 day less off, or try listening 2 loops 2days on 3 days off?

In your shoes, I would do the following.

1. Whenever you get a craving for more, do it.
2. The first change to make is to reduce days off from 3 to 2.
3. If that's not enough, then increase loops per day by 1 per ASRB2 cycle until you either get what you want, are too tired to keep increasing or hit 3 loops per day.
4. If that's not enough, then start adding a day on every ASRB2 cycle until you either get what you want, are too tired to keep increasing or hit 3 loops per day.

[Shannon]

Hey Shannon, is a new version of OED on the radar or at least near the top of the list of subs to get created yet?

OED is not in queue right now.  I have to finish some other things first.  Once those are done, we may explore that one.  But before I build that one, I want to build Universal Healing, which may be helpful for some causes of ED.  OED is a complex challenge, and so far my efforts to work in the direction of OED and triggering erectile responses have shown me that it's more complex than I originally thought it was.  It may take more R&D once I am free to work in that direction.

Following up on the OED theme, two questions for @Shannon

1) Would you expect that the FRM in the next DMSI would resolve ED for those for whom ED is a manifestation of a subconscious fear of sex (which as you noted in previous posts, is also why many are not executing DMSI to begin with)?

If the only issue you're having that causes ED is at its root a fear, then the FRM in DMSI should work on that.  ED is a potentially complex issue with more than one possible cause, however.

2) If achieving design goal through DMSI turns out to be too difficult because it relies on the cooperation of third parties (those influenced by the aura), would you be able to achieve the same result, i.e. getting to sex, through a different program that incorporates elements of AM, NSFM, etc. In other words, by making the user better at seduction instead of relying on the more passive methods DMSI does? This would be beneficial for those of us who ultimately just want to get at the end goal regardless of whether the route is more passive or active.

In all cases, the issue is going to come down to fear.  If you're not too afraid to execute, then it'll work.  If they're not too afraid to cooperate, then it'll work.  Who initiates doesn't really make much difference in the end if all you want is sex to happen, unless you happen to be inexperienced and/or self defeating.  In that case, having the other party initiate will make things much easier.  Unless you shoot them down and or self sabotage when and if they do...  If DMSI fails, I can do it the other way too.  But I don't think DMSI fails.

[UniversalMan]

Hey @Shannon , so, I am on OF v3 ,11 days in....
I was thinking to change the listening schedule to1 loop per day. 3 days on, 4 days off (why? I really do not know) , what are your thoughts on that?

Right now I am on the original schedule 1 loop ,2 days on, 3 days off

Also, when listening before going to sleep, I have a really hard time to fall asleep, and when listening thru the day I crave sleep and I need to go for a nap LOL.

Why would you go for more days off?  I'm suspicious of that.

Yup,it made no sense to me neither so i stopped thinking about that,and started "listening" if I got crawings, and I do....on the first day off I had the crawing for more, but did not listen.

Obviously need to change something, curent scedule is original (1 loop, 2 days on,3 days off)
What do you think? To just do 1 day less off, or try listening 2 loops 2days on 3 days off?

In your shoes, I would do the following.

1. Whenever you get a craving for more, do it.
2. The first change to make is to reduce days off from 3 to 2.
3. If that's not enough, then increase loops per day by 1 per ASRB2 cycle until you either get what you want, are too tired to keep increasing or hit 3 loops per day.
4. If that's not enough, then start adding a day on every ASRB2 cycle until you either get what you want, are too tired to keep increasing or hit 3 loops per day.

Great!
Thank you Shannon!