Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[fab10]

I'll tell you this.  One is experimental, but after testing is almost certainly going to be released for public consumption.  I just have to verify the limiters.

One is going to be built from the experimental, and that's the next one I publish.

And there will probably be three, four, maybe five more after that in the same series.  I think you guys are going to have a good time with these.

Ooh, I will be done with LTU in one week, the temptation will be strong. 

What happens if the experimental version turns out to be safe and more effective than the released version? Will it be sold as an upgrade?

[London1]

@Shannon

Ive noticed that with ultrasonic at very high volumes there is no crackling but as soon as I go down ONE notch in a certain place in the volume spectrum there is constant faint crackling. Kinda strange. 
Any lower than a few notches below that is too low to hear if there is any cracking or not but there is cracking down until that point.
Mine do go up to 20khz.

Any idea why there is this crackling in the midrange volumes and not the higher ones?

Is this crackling ok or does it mean low effectiveness?

There is no crackling during the speaker test. There is a murming sound that starts up during last 5 seconds and throughout the 30 sec there is this 'up and down' sound. best way I can describe it lol. I assume thats normal..

[Shannon]

BY next Friday?   Release Program released and revealed?


Shannon's quote
'I have the experimental finished and distributed to testers. Now I'm working on the release program key script.'

Released when it's ready.  And I had a little misadventure with MIR.  Started getting a sore throat, turned it on, and waited until 3 days after symptoms were gone before turning it off.  Except that I forgot that my instructions for this version was 5 days after, and within 2 hours of turning it off, it came rampaging back and kicked the ever living **** out of me.  Been using MIR ever since, which is taking my focus away from productivity (was using UMSv1) and it's draining me heavily as it fights this infection now.  Which has slowed me down considerably.  I'm still working, but not at the pace I thought I would be going.

[Shannon]

I'll tell you this.  One is experimental, but after testing is almost certainly going to be released for public consumption.  I just have to verify the limiters.

One is going to be built from the experimental, and that's the next one I publish.

And there will probably be three, four, maybe five more after that in the same series.  I think you guys are going to have a good time with these.

Ooh, I will be done with LTU in one week, the temptation will be strong. 

What happens if the experimental version turns out to be safe and more effective than the released version? Will it be sold as an upgrade?

You're assuming I am testing a new technology in the experimental that won't be in the one I release.  That is not the case.  Both will be 5.75.7G and both will have the same new technology.  What the experimental is testing is:

1. Does this program goal work as well as the models say it will?
2. What exactly does this program goal do in real life testing?
3. Do the new limiters work as intended?

This new generation of tech uses two limiters, not just one.  The reason the experimental isn't just being released is that if the limiters don't work as intended, it won't be wise of me to release it to the public.

So far, they appear to function as intended, but this experiment will last at least three weeks and we are only into Day 2.

The goals of the experimental are... hmmm.... rather sensitive.  It has to be controlled properly.  If it makes it through testing, you'll see why.

[Shannon]

@Shannon

Ive noticed that with ultrasonic at very high volumes there is no crackling but as soon as I go down ONE notch in a certain place in the volume spectrum there is constant faint crackling. Kinda strange. 
Any lower than a few notches below that is too low to hear if there is any cracking or not but there is cracking down until that point.
Mine do go up to 20khz.

Any idea why there is this crackling in the midrange volumes and not the higher ones?

Is this crackling ok or does it mean low effectiveness?

There is no crackling during the speaker test. There is a murming sound that starts up during last 5 seconds and throughout the 30 sec there is this 'up and down' sound. best way I can describe it lol. I assume thats normal..

It sounds like a function of the specific speaker you're using to play it.  Does it do that on multiple speakers?  Crackling indicates that the speaker cannot reproduce that pitch and volume combination without overload, and that overload comes out as crackling.  Why it would get better at higher volumes?  Maybe the speaker is only unstable at a certain range of volumes before it stabilizes again.  I don't know, but I'll be amazed if you report that that happens on multiple speakers.

Crackling isn't going to reduce the effectiveness significantly enough to matter.  If it turns to constant static, THEN you have a problem.

[ncbeareatingman]

BY next Friday?   Release Program released and revealed?


Shannon's quote
'I have the experimental finished and distributed to testers. Now I'm working on the release program key script.'

Released when it's ready.  And I had a little misadventure with MIR.  Started getting a sore throat, turned it on, and waited until 3 days after symptoms were gone before turning it off.  Except that I forgot that my instructions for this version was 5 days after, and within 2 hours of turning it off, it came rampaging back and kicked the ever living **** out of me.  Been using MIR ever since, which is taking my focus away from productivity (was using UMSv1) and it's draining me heavily as it fights this infection now.  Which has slowed me down considerably.  I'm still working, but not at the pace I thought I would be going.

 Wow,was wondering,since you mentioned UMSv1,if UMSv2 was  being worked on a little bit here, and da little bit there,as such?
 
  Truly do hope you're feeling tip top and ship shape, very soon,Mister!!

[UniversalMan]

Ok, @Shannon I need your advice...
I am listening OFv1. 6 months and 4 days now, schedule is 6 days on 2 days off (have done adjustments in listening schedule at some point), what happens is I am ok  on the days on, but as soon the first day off comes I start to feel like crap  physically and mentally, and some stupid mortal fears come to surface, and also feeling like I will vomit.

Should I try with no days off for some time?

So what that means is, it's working, but there's not enough pressure.  I suggest you drop to zero to one day off, and notch up the volume a bit, and add a loop if you can add another loop.  Otherwise, we are looking for ways to increase pressure/exposure enough to overcome those resistant fears that it can override while it's playing, but are not being cleared out.

Thank you Shannon...so...

Will try 7 loops, 6 days on 1 day off (was 6 loops, 6 days on, 2 days off)....as for the volume, can not do higher than 13/15 on my android phone, cause higher than that starts distorting...cracking sound (listening ultrasonic all the time).

maybe I could change the format to hybrid if the problem does not solve after few cycles?

It will still work if it's triggering speaker distortion, I have tested that to death with my cheap phones this last few years.  But you may find that it's very annoying to listen to your phone crackle while you're trying to fall asleep.

Hybrid is an option also.

Ok, will experiment with both after a few cycles of the schedule written in my previous post, thank you.

Hi @Shannon ....

So, today is 8 months and 8 days that I am on OF, the 8-th month I did straight loops 31 days on (7 loops, ultrasonic, vol. 14/15) , than 2 days off and 5 days on,and I think I am gonna finish with OF now, and gonna need a couple of days to see if that specific fears resurface again....other than that,the specific fears I mentioned in earlier posts, the rest seems good

(It is amazing that in that one month that I was listening straight I did not felt any draining from the sub!!! I had ups and downs, at times I felt energized, at times drained, but I do not think the draining's were sub related, It was I would say environmental)

I am thinking in starting MHS next... and I have two questions for you @Shannon...
First: how many day's I need to take off before starting MHS or I can start it straight away?
Second: can I combine MHS with one or two loops of DRS?
Thank you in advance for replying

Hope you are doing great

[Omni3]

Get well soon @Shannon . May full strength power and resources return to you swiftly.

[Shannon]

BY next Friday?   Release Program released and revealed?


Shannon's quote
'I have the experimental finished and distributed to testers. Now I'm working on the release program key script.'

Released when it's ready.  And I had a little misadventure with MIR.  Started getting a sore throat, turned it on, and waited until 3 days after symptoms were gone before turning it off.  Except that I forgot that my instructions for this version was 5 days after, and within 2 hours of turning it off, it came rampaging back and kicked the ever living **** out of me.  Been using MIR ever since, which is taking my focus away from productivity (was using UMSv1) and it's draining me heavily as it fights this infection now.  Which has slowed me down considerably.  I'm still working, but not at the pace I thought I would be going.

 Wow,was wondering,since you mentioned UMSv1,if UMSv2 was  being worked on a little bit here, and da little bit there,as such?
 
  Truly do hope you're feeling tip top and ship shape, very soon,Mister!!

I am going to start working on UMSv2 full time very soon.  I'm about to build the sub I have been working on and then release it, and then it's on to UMSv2.  The good thing about MIRv2 is that it allows me to be much more functional and able to work than I would be without it, even if sometimes I am too tired to work because of how much it fights the infection.  But without it, I would be completely worthless for work for 3 to 10 days, depending on what type of infection it was.

The sub I have been working on quietly are multi-purpose tools.  They're helping me develop something for the skeleton script (which is 5.75.7G now), and something for DMSI.  The improvements to the skeleton script are in ASS/ART and energy usage.  This should make it faster and easier to get past and through resistance.  I have already had one tester report some things that seem to confirm that.  

But it's time to get started on UMSv2.

[Shannon]

So what that means is, it's working, but there's not enough pressure.  I suggest you drop to zero to one day off, and notch up the volume a bit, and add a loop if you can add another loop.  Otherwise, we are looking for ways to increase pressure/exposure enough to overcome those resistant fears that it can override while it's playing, but are not being cleared out.

Thank you Shannon...so...

Will try 7 loops, 6 days on 1 day off (was 6 loops, 6 days on, 2 days off)....as for the volume, can not do higher than 13/15 on my android phone, cause higher than that starts distorting...cracking sound (listening ultrasonic all the time).

maybe I could change the format to hybrid if the problem does not solve after few cycles?

It will still work if it's triggering speaker distortion, I have tested that to death with my cheap phones this last few years.  But you may find that it's very annoying to listen to your phone crackle while you're trying to fall asleep.

Hybrid is an option also.

Ok, will experiment with both after a few cycles of the schedule written in my previous post, thank you.

Hi @Shannon ....

So, today is 8 months and 8 days that I am on OF, the 8-th month I did straight loops 31 days on (7 loops, ultrasonic, vol. 14/15) , than 2 days off and 5 days on,and I think I am gonna finish with OF now, and gonna need a couple of days to see if that specific fears resurface again....other than that,the specific fears I mentioned in earlier posts, the rest seems good

(It is amazing that in that one month that I was listening straight I did not felt any draining from the sub!!! I had ups and downs, at times I felt energized, at times drained, but I do not think the draining's were sub related, It was I would say environmental)

I am thinking in starting MHS next... and I have two questions for you @Shannon...
First: how many day's I need to take off before starting MHS or I can start it straight away?
Second: can I combine MHS with one or two loops of DRS?
Thank you in advance for replying

Hope you are doing great

With OF, I suggest you take off a week and see how things go.  Then decide if you want to go to the next sub or re-run OF.  If you still have fears, it's not done yet.  Are you running v2?  Because if you are, the time starts from when you started using V2 since it's a different version.  

If you combine those subs, both will be degraded in effect and performance.  I would avoid doing that unless it's absolutely critically necessary, and then only when and as it is critically necessary.  You cannot turn drive North and East at the same time.

[Shannon]

Get well soon @Shannon . May full strength power and resources return to you swiftly.

I'm working on it.  Thank you.

[Frosted]

Hey Shannon, have you decided whether UMS2 will be a 6 stage yet?

[UniversalMan]

Thank you Shannon...so...

Will try 7 loops, 6 days on 1 day off (was 6 loops, 6 days on, 2 days off)....as for the volume, can not do higher than 13/15 on my android phone, cause higher than that starts distorting...cracking sound (listening ultrasonic all the time).

maybe I could change the format to hybrid if the problem does not solve after few cycles?

It will still work if it's triggering speaker distortion, I have tested that to death with my cheap phones this last few years.  But you may find that it's very annoying to listen to your phone crackle while you're trying to fall asleep.

Hybrid is an option also.

Ok, will experiment with both after a few cycles of the schedule written in my previous post, thank you.

Hi @Shannon ....

So, today is 8 months and 8 days that I am on OF, the 8-th month I did straight loops 31 days on (7 loops, ultrasonic, vol. 14/15) , than 2 days off and 5 days on,and I think I am gonna finish with OF now, and gonna need a couple of days to see if that specific fears resurface again....other than that,the specific fears I mentioned in earlier posts, the rest seems good

(It is amazing that in that one month that I was listening straight I did not felt any draining from the sub!!! I had ups and downs, at times I felt energized, at times drained, but I do not think the draining's were sub related, It was I would say environmental)

I am thinking in starting MHS next... and I have two questions for you @Shannon...
First: how many day's I need to take off before starting MHS or I can start it straight away?
Second: can I combine MHS with one or two loops of DRS?
Thank you in advance for replying

Hope you are doing great

With OF, I suggest you take off a week and see how things go.  Then decide if you want to go to the next sub or re-run OF.  If you still have fears, it's not done yet.  Are you running v2?  Because if you are, the time starts from when you started using V2 since it's a different version.  

If you combine those subs, both will be degraded in effect and performance.  I would avoid doing that unless it's absolutely critically necessary, and then only when and as it is critically necessary.  You cannot turn drive North and East at the same time.

Nope,I was running v1 this whole time.

Ok,I got your point 7 days pause,and do not combine drs with mhs unless it is cruical.
Thank you

[Roy]

@Shannon,I used OF1 for 180 days and now using OF2 for 73. Should I use OF2 for 8 months?