Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Benjamin]

All good, sometimes it takes someone observing from the outside. I can identify this easy with other people but when i'm in the middle of it myself it's still difficult to notice at times.

[MasterEnki]

Choo Choo... Hype TRAIN coming to deRAIL a thread near you!

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[MasterEnki]

FYI,

Sorry if my meme is a little bit too big. I don’t know how to make it smaller on mobile.

[Jake2015]

To All

Thank you for giving your suggestions as to how I could perhaps get in 11loops into my day.

I appreciate the support and responses.

I have made a decision after careful consideration (wasnt easy as Ive woken up from sleep thinking about it lol) and written this up in my latest journal entry.

Thank you

[ichigo]

Hey Shannon, what do you think the best sub option is to increase prioperception/body awareness and release muscular tension? Thank you.

[Shannon]

Quick question to all:

How would you get 11hours listening of a sub into your day if you had to or could?

Trying to figure it out and failing so asking you all which has always helped me in the past.

Thank you all.

Ps: without using a phone as its not the most effective.

I would get 4 hours in the evening when I`m chilling at home. And the remaining 7 hours while I sleep.

Thank you. I unfortunately cannot do that as the 11hours have to be continuous without any stoppage.

It seems 5hours may be still the most likely way for me even though I would love to do the 11.

Where there is a will, there is a way. I never have trouble finding a way to do 11 loops a day if that's what I want to do. Even a low battery rarely stops me, because I have a 10,000 mAh battery pack in my car, always charged up and ready to go. The truth is, you (or some part of you) doesn't want to do 11 loops because it may achieve the goals.

[Shannon]

I've noticed that some guys take the piss out of girls for acting sexy (taking hot photos, even thinking they're hot), like scoffing and sniggering at them. Then they wonder why its so hard to get girls. Like wtf, your laughing at them for being themselves and then wondering why they dont like you?

Not to mention punishing good behavior. Who in their right mind doesn't want girls to be more sexual?

While I'm not worried about getting manipulated into having more kids, my concern is the women we're disqualifying b/c they have no interest in having kids, ever, with anyone. A lot of women are just looking to have a good time. At the least, adding in "fun" instead of going full-court-press on "baby rabies" seems like the better route to me.

I'm for whatever Shannon deems best after modeling the options.

I was under the impression the baby rabies thing was a side-effect, not the GOAL of DMSI. It shouldn't hinder women who want only fun (in fact, I hope not!). Shannon says he'll try to find the right combo tho so I'm hopeful.

"Baby rabies" is a side effect of the goal of the program. You make a yourself sexually irresistible, and the affected is most likely going to respond that way because that's the most primary purpose of sex. I have found that the current goal is best, I won't be trying to change that to add fun or anything like that, but I have found a way to adjust the intensity of the aura so that it's less intense and more approachable. That could very well result in more responses "for fun" and more responses in general because with a less sharply focused effect it becomes more comfortable and enjoyable. I actually made that adjustment to the primary aura generation module yesterday, quite successfully.

[Shannon]

Shannon,

I'm seeking your imput, as I'm going through some rough stuff on E2, legitimately. It's surfacing old insecurities in me, and I've felt unconfident around male coworkers today.

I'm running E2 until Halloween, and I've had my mind on my next sub lately. I've been sabotaging some success via heavy caffeine consumption, and I've been tempted lately to play MLS since it stimulates my mind and body both.

In the middle of emotional pains I've felt, I lean heavily towards doing UD again, even knowing it may be quiet the first week or so. But me trying to lie to myself (or denial) has escalated recently, and the thing I value about UD is it knowing exactly where to focus. For example, I have never been labelled ADD, but under extreme stress, I'm looking everywhere except NOW. I've not been grounded peacefully lately. My old survival strategies have been rising to the surface, mostly where I feel like a scared child around unavailable adults. (That's definitely being worked on by E2)

I've considered MLS too since it has a detox element, but MLS is not UD. You've pointed this out with other newer subs.

And for its sheer power and the most recent developments, I've been wondering about DMSI. I do have ugly associations with sex, all taken from my childhood. I still feel very inadequate and inept in regards to sex with women. Well.....not sex really--it's the relating I avoid.

But my main goal is mental detoxing of old beliefs I have towards myself and other people. I love the polymorphic scripting where it finds my hidden needs and heals them. What I experienced my first UD run I did not see coming. It touched my core.

I may have opened too much to discuss in this post, but I'm asking "which sub would you recommend I use after E2?"

Thank you.

Recognize avoidance tactics to escape what you're dealing with, and resist them.

Keep going with E2.

When you are no longer trying to escape because it's working on something, and you can make a change based on a conscious, rational choice instead of subconscious evasion tactics, then go do something else.

[Shannon]

@Shannon I have 2 main questions. Even though its probably going to be while since you work on LTU, I did want to know if you were "contemplating" maybe putting some general statements to improve mental function? (Like MLS but more broad than really specific). If not you had mentioned something about a polymorphic function that would help you tune up any area of your life that you had to tune up at the time. Would this by itself in "theory" help you if at that time in your life you had to improve on learning say a new language, mathematics, coding, etc? If you haven't really decided yet or don't know that's understandable as well since that's probably quite a few weeks away from now when you might possibly start working on it.

That's not what I had in mind for life tune up. If I find that I can do all of what I have in mind currently, I'll model adding that type of concept. But this will be covered by both the OE and some of the generalized SOS modules.

Also, hows the testing for the Fear modules going? Are you starting to get an idea of how they work and what they are doing? Are things looking promising for the module additions? Just curious to see if this might actually be the cure to the fear based resistance we have been fighting this entire time.

I have identified a weakness with the fear removal modules, which I have been observing for a while now trying to understand it and how to correct it. This morning at breakfast, I found what I believe to be the necessary solution. I'll be working on upgrading the fear removal modules today.

I will be doing the necessary upgrades and adding the new fear removal module to 3.3 today and possibly tomorrow.

[Shannon]

shannon, for what it's worth and for your informational purposes....

I have been running a mind program for 3 months. Thursday night, I went to put on the program, but instead of looping the same track repeatedly, it mixed one loop of dmsi 3.2 in it. I didn't catch it cuz dmsi was the second track to play and i must have already been asleep by that time.

But the attraction results have been beyond mind boggling. I kept asking myself "wtf am i doing now that's different than last week, and why are women all of a sudden nonstop hitting me up!? including married women?!?!?"

upon reflecting back on last week, i can safely say it's due to my accidental night of dmsi on a 1:1 ratio. 1 hr program A, 1 hr dmsi.

Yesterday, day 4 of the "bloom", i had this girl exhibiting pure fallout as she messaged me voice recordings of her talking/asking questions while i was at work... and she was doing that for HOURS. I have pages and pages of voice notes from her.

it all makes sense now. it's cuz of dmsi lol

Thanks for the heads up.

I've been trying for a long time to understand how P5/P6 affects people and how to make it possible for people to use 2 or possibly more than 2 programs at once with P6. I have some ideas and those will be entering testing soon. Right now, it's very hit-or-miss for people doing that. Some people can, and some people get their results wrecked as a result of trying, headaches, confusion, exhaustion, etc.

My goal for 6G is to make it possible to use as many programs at once as you like. We of course aim for the stars, but don't always hit them.

[wolverine_i_am]

So USLM B will be out first before DMSI 3.3 and you want some of us to go back on USLM to do some testing?

[Shannon]

So USLM B will be out first before DMSI 3.3 and you want some of us to go back on USLM to do some testing?

Yes. We are also going to be doing turbulence testing with this. I need to understand what percentage of you experience turbulence, and for how long. I suspect USLM is not going to trigger a lot of turbulence. But I think that 35 days of rest between is probably too long, and I'm also working on how to make a module that allows you to switch without a rest, at the very least, or do 2 and possibly more programs at a time.

So killing as many birds as possible with one stone.

[Jake2015]

Quick question to all:

How would you get 11hours listening of a sub into your day if you had to or could?

Trying to figure it out and failing so asking you all which has always helped me in the past.

Thank you all.

Ps: without using a phone as its not the most effective.

I would get 4 hours in the evening when I`m chilling at home. And the remaining 7 hours while I sleep.

Thank you. I unfortunately cannot do that as the 11hours have to be continuous without any stoppage.

It seems 5hours may be still the most likely way for me even though I would love to do the 11.

Where there is a will, there is a way. I never have trouble finding a way to do 11 loops a day if that's what I want to do. Even a low battery rarely stops me, because I have a 10,000 mAh battery pack in my car, always charged up and ready to go. The truth is, you (or some part of you) doesn't want to do 11 loops because it may achieve the goals.

@Shannon Thanks buddy.

Ive replied to you on my thread but im trying hard to find a way to do 11loops. I dont want to use a phone as the speakers arent great and this has been tested before. I also now only 1 have phone and I am always getting texts and calls. 11loops means 12hours 28mins and thus very likely calls will pause the play at the very least. - (I cannot be out of phone reach for 12hours).

I am looking at another option. If the price of this option/phone stays the same and doesn't go up then I could purchase this I feel in 30days time approximately and then use ultra silent and play it no matter where I go.

Based on your modelling (ive asked this in my thread), will 30days wait be okay or will that change the results of 11loops and 5loops that you found?

If it will then I will choose 5 loops as the most credible option and start on that otherwise wait the 30days see if I can afford to buy the phone that plays 20khz and play 11loops otherwise start on 5loops then too.

thank you again.

[KingDavid93]

What kind of timeline are we looking at with respect to the release of the updated USLM B?