Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Shadow2200]

Women choosing the man who has the best genetics to breed is not only already thrown out the window by DMSI, but it is only one of a number of factors she considers. In my efforts to decipher how to make the perfect aphrodisiac, it has come to my attention that there are well over 132 different factors that she considers, consciously and/or subconsciously, in making her choice. Genetics really isn't a big one that is necessary for DMSI because we can create the same reaction through the use of the pheromone optimizer and another module that are already in DMSI and have been functional for a while.

Jeez, if that's the case I think I'm starting to really understand why this whole project has even taken this long to get to this point. I mean there's obviously been resistance but add on top of that having to deal with taking over 132 different factors to get the woman even interested has to be a pain. This makes me wonder though even though 3.3 will be quite a while from now since your priority with 3.2 was the user side (stop people from resisting and self sabotaging) will your goal for 3.3 be mostly affected side?

Lol, while 132 might seem like alot to your conscious mind, to your subconscious it isn't.

Subconscious is very powerful, let's crank that number up higher

[Daredevil]

Is the procrastination module present in version A of DMSI? I've seen men report its affects on B, but not on A. It's not mentioned specifically in the sales page either.

Everything in B is in A

[Hatman]

Hey guys. I find the whole idea of Temporal Displacement (TID) very fascinating. And the fact that Shannon has been able to make use of it through subliminals. I'd like to learn more about this concept, but I haven't found much information about it online. How much do you guys know about it? And could you point me to some interesting articles to read or videos to watch?

[Steve_]

@Benjamin sup buddy

[Darkness]

I would also chime in that I'm feeling the drain as well. Need extra sleep a lot more now. I do wonder, if its not H&C then could it be a change in epigenetics then? I remember you saying that you had a strong disposition to believe that the sub at this point might be affecting us on a epigenetic level. If this is true could this be whats causing some of the tiredness maybe? I know we discussed how when you implement changing on a genetic level that you might experience tiredness from weeks to maybe even months. So maybe even a change at the epigenetic level might cause similar tiredness.

The drain will either be energy expended while the various coopperative parts of you battle it out subconsciously with the various non-cooperative parts, or energy expended because you are executing and probably encountering a lot of people who trigger the sniper.

Also Shannon I had 2 questions if you aren't busy. I know you said before that you might come out with the genetic changing stuff at around or slightly after 6G is finished. Have you considered maybe finishing it first then have it included in DMSI final? I'm just asking because I do think it might play an important part. If evolutionary theory is true and women choose the man with the most resources and/or best genetics to breed with wouldn't it make sense to have that included in DMSI final? Obviously I think you already said you might include something with wealth management/growth in a later edition but just seeing if you gave more thought to tackling the other side of the issue with the genetic stuff. I can't speak for anyone else but I know for myself I wouldn't mind waiting a bit longer for final if it included the genetic component (granted we still have 3.3 before that).

Women choosing the man who has the best genetics to breed is not only already thrown out the window by DMSI, but it is only one of a number of factors she considers. In my efforts to decipher how to make the perfect aphrodisiac, it has come to my attention that there are well over 132 different factors that she considers, consciously and/or subconsciously, in making her choice. Genetics really isn't a big one that is necessary for DMSI because we can create the same reaction through the use of the pheromone optimizer and another module that are already in DMSI and have been functional for a while.

Also, have you thought about where you will put AYPs in 6G in the que? Would consider it probably after your done testing 6G with ASC (possibly DMSI final if that turns out to be 6G)? I mention that because I know from the threads that it seems like AM7 would be the most wanted 6G sub after your done testing but I know it usually takes you a while to complete a 6 stage sub (that's if AM7 even needs to be 6 stages). Could it be possible to maybe squeeze a few 6G AYPs in between that time since I assume ( I hope correctly) that the AYPs wouldn't take as much time due to length of the scripts and if they are of the same type you would only have to change a few words around?

The queue for 6G has two programs in it solidly. The first is ASC. The second is a custom sub. After that I will be deciding what to build. AYP should be doable as a focusfire, but we shall see. I don't have enough information yet as to what is necessary to build that in 6G.

And by the way, both of the custom jobs I am building will be eventually made available to you guys to buy if you wish. And both titles will be popular.

Can the Alpha Male sub remake one into a man that has these traits instilled instinctively supersedes these subconscious parameters? I ask because if I get tested for them, they unconsciously express themselves.

So in essence the user no longer tested, behaves attractively from his very core, and when tested one passes in naturally and unconsciously.

[Benjamin]

Hey guys. I find the whole idea of Temporal Displacement (TID) very fascinating. And the fact that Shannon has been able to make use of it through subliminals. I'd like to learn more about this concept, but I haven't found much information about it online. How much do you guys know about it? And could you point me to some interesting articles to read or videos to watch?

The main description is in the glossary.

TID: Temporal Impact Displacement. In other words, it is how far before the initiating action that the resulting effect takes place. P5 and P6 technologies create TID effects. As a result, you can actually start getting effects before you start using the program, and these are “ripples” moving away from the point of experience that generated them. This is possible because time is only perceived as being linear by the conscious mind, but it is not actually linear.

Past that Shannon will have to answer, because i'm not sure.

@Benjamin sup buddy

Hey man, is that a new feature? Just got home from the gym.

[Daredevil]

@"Cyanide" Sup Buddy

[Steve_]

@Daredevil not much just another day in paradise
@Benjamin yeah I got bored

[Shannon]

Women choosing the man who has the best genetics to breed is not only already thrown out the window by DMSI, but it is only one of a number of factors she considers. In my efforts to decipher how to make the perfect aphrodisiac, it has come to my attention that there are well over 132 different factors that she considers, consciously and/or subconsciously, in making her choice. Genetics really isn't a big one that is necessary for DMSI because we can create the same reaction through the use of the pheromone optimizer and another module that are already in DMSI and have been functional for a while.

Jeez, if that's the case I think I'm starting to really understand why this whole project has even taken this long to get to this point. I mean there's obviously been resistance but add on top of that having to deal with taking over 132 different factors to get the woman even interested has to be a pain. This makes me wonder though even though 3.3 will be quite a while from now since your priority with 3.2 was the user side (stop people from resisting and self sabotaging) will your goal for 3.3 be mostly affected side?

The vast majority of the things I mention in those 132 factors haven't been added to DMSI yet. And yes, the primary goal for 3.3 is going to be balancing the affected side impact with what I did to the user side in 3.2, and finding ways to implement the modules like Magnus Engine that will get the program to the highest levels of power I can achieve in the time allotted me for it.

I ask because from what I've seen so far I feel pretty darn good on 3.2 though there are still some minor hiccups (still have problems with porn every once in a while and a small degree of fantasizing). The only problems i've felt so far is the aura doesn't seem to have as much of a affect on a sexual side. I don't know if that just means the aura needs to be buffed up, need to make a wall for affected side to make the effects inescapable, and/or that my "Don't care attitude" is causing the aura to not snipe anyone. On that last part its kind of weird I could look at a woman for like a moment but then I just lose interest totally and don't care if shes getting affected. Still kind of not sure if this is resistance trying to kill my desire outright or if it really is just non-neediness to the extreme. It could be also my standards being risen way to high. Been going out consistently for the pass few days and I still haven't seen one woman I would even be interested in or desire (Been to the theater at the mall so shouldn't be a shortage of women there). Its like automatically my mind goes to "I don't care" and I lose interest automatically.

It is an effort at self sabotage.

Btw, did want to thank you for the program as a whole though. My PTSD is pretty much gone and I have this kind of zen, peaceful attitude about me. Never thought with all the years I've suffered with this that I would finally be free of this. Now just need to keep running the program until I'm sure this attitude becomes the new MO and it doesn't come back.

I am thrilled to hear that! I'm looking forward to seeing how the 6G version of E2 works for people with PTSD. But hearing that DMSI A can clear it is pretty amazing.

[Shannon]

Is the procrastination module present in version A of DMSI? I've seen men report its affects on B, but not on A. It's not mentioned specifically in the sales page either.

As mentioned before, the only difference between A and B is that A has H&C scripting enabled, and B relies entirely on the Optimus Engine to achieve whatever H&C is necessary.

So if you're seeing it in B and not in A then you're seeing guys focusing on either H&C or self sabotaging to avoid H&C.

[Shannon]

Hey guys. I find the whole idea of Temporal Displacement (TID) very fascinating. And the fact that Shannon has been able to make use of it through subliminals. I'd like to learn more about this concept, but I haven't found much information about it online. How much do you guys know about it? And could you point me to some interesting articles to read or videos to watch?

TID is, as far as I know, something I invented. That would be why you haven't found much about it online.

What we know about it is that all experiments and observations so far point to it's existence, and that the latest version of the P6 module (which creates this effect) is able to start noticeably affecting people between 4 to 7 weeks before the person uses the program. This of course depends on the person's level of resistance; for the most resistant amongst us, even running the program directly isn't doing much yet. Obviously, those persons trying to resist like that and succeeding are not going to encounter TID. It is an effect that results in you experiencing the effects of the program before you start running it.

The only source of information about it is here on this forum. , because I am the only source of subliminal programs that creates this effect - again, as far as I know. I'm sure there will be copycats soonly enough, who achieve various degrees of success with recreating this.

[Shannon]

I would also chime in that I'm feeling the drain as well. Need extra sleep a lot more now. I do wonder, if its not H&C then could it be a change in epigenetics then? I remember you saying that you had a strong disposition to believe that the sub at this point might be affecting us on a epigenetic level. If this is true could this be whats causing some of the tiredness maybe? I know we discussed how when you implement changing on a genetic level that you might experience tiredness from weeks to maybe even months. So maybe even a change at the epigenetic level might cause similar tiredness.

The drain will either be energy expended while the various coopperative parts of you battle it out subconsciously with the various non-cooperative parts, or energy expended because you are executing and probably encountering a lot of people who trigger the sniper.

Also Shannon I had 2 questions if you aren't busy. I know you said before that you might come out with the genetic changing stuff at around or slightly after 6G is finished. Have you considered maybe finishing it first then have it included in DMSI final? I'm just asking because I do think it might play an important part. If evolutionary theory is true and women choose the man with the most resources and/or best genetics to breed with wouldn't it make sense to have that included in DMSI final? Obviously I think you already said you might include something with wealth management/growth in a later edition but just seeing if you gave more thought to tackling the other side of the issue with the genetic stuff. I can't speak for anyone else but I know for myself I wouldn't mind waiting a bit longer for final if it included the genetic component (granted we still have 3.3 before that).

Women choosing the man who has the best genetics to breed is not only already thrown out the window by DMSI, but it is only one of a number of factors she considers. In my efforts to decipher how to make the perfect aphrodisiac, it has come to my attention that there are well over 132 different factors that she considers, consciously and/or subconsciously, in making her choice. Genetics really isn't a big one that is necessary for DMSI because we can create the same reaction through the use of the pheromone optimizer and another module that are already in DMSI and have been functional for a while.

Also, have you thought about where you will put AYPs in 6G in the que? Would consider it probably after your done testing 6G with ASC (possibly DMSI final if that turns out to be 6G)? I mention that because I know from the threads that it seems like AM7 would be the most wanted 6G sub after your done testing but I know it usually takes you a while to complete a 6 stage sub (that's if AM7 even needs to be 6 stages). Could it be possible to maybe squeeze a few 6G AYPs in between that time since I assume ( I hope correctly) that the AYPs wouldn't take as much time due to length of the scripts and if they are of the same type you would only have to change a few words around?

The queue for 6G has two programs in it solidly. The first is ASC. The second is a custom sub. After that I will be deciding what to build. AYP should be doable as a focusfire, but we shall see. I don't have enough information yet as to what is necessary to build that in 6G.

And by the way, both of the custom jobs I am building will be eventually made available to you guys to buy if you wish. And both titles will be popular.

Can the Alpha Male sub remake one into a man that has these traits instilled instinctively supersedes these subconscious parameters? I ask because if I get tested for them, they unconsciously express themselves.

So in essence the user no longer tested, behaves attractively from his very core, and when tested one passes in naturally and unconsciously.

That depends on which version you're talking about, your starting point, how you use it, how much you use it, and how you respond to it. Obviously I can't answer concerning V7, which isn't created yet.

[Tigerismyspirit]

Hi Shannon, during my vacation, I slipped off of my no alcohol streak. I drank a lot of coffee. I couldn't get sexual with girls. I think I'm regressing. I'm still drinking coffee and a lot of sugar. I have no motivation to work and go to the gym. Even though I'm positive about myself, why the slip off? I still don't receive IOIs or DIHL. I feel so bad sometimes that I cry my soul out. I feel like I'm losing my dominance and masculinity. That would be a problem since if girls become too comfortable with me, they friendzone me and don't wanna do anything sexual. I have had that when I was in college. Do you think I should try A? I have 3 more days to go to end the third round of 14 days.

[ncbeareatingman]

Dear Shannon, a coupla questions here about the Self Esteem program...
First off: Does it contain an 'ego balancer' to it?
Secondly: Does it produce a some what "IDGAF" Attitude because one's self esteem is much higher than before,or might it be that SE has a touch of the AM type programming in it, to cause results such as a IDGAF attitude?