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RE: DMSI, will you be the final piece of puzzle? - Shannon - 12-30-2016
Good way to solve it.... don't worry about it.
RE: DMSI, will you be the final piece of puzzle? - sw72hw - 12-31-2016
(12-30-2016, 09:01 PM)Shannon Wrote: Good way to solve it.... don't worry about it.
LOL on that. Yeah, I will worry about it, once it happens. Besides, they may be the neighbors moving out. (Why do I think that, because last night I had difficulty falling asleep because the neighbor woman was semi-yelling, and the voice sounded similar to what I heard previously.)
Anyway, I did photo soot this morning, and man I don't know how it went. I did my best to follow the pro's recommendation, but like I said, I'm terrible in front of camera. Also, I think I just found that I particularly don't like how I look on pictures in general (whether it is done professionally or not). I am okay with how I look on the mirror, which makes me wonder why there is a difference then.
After the session, I finally went to the zoo. (I had to fight myself to do it.) It wasn't the best time for zoo as it was quite windy and cold outside, but nevertheless I did it. There were not too many people there, (which was contrary to what I thought), so it made viewing experience more pleasant.
I wanted to get in the habit of asking people to take photo of me, but I couldn't do it. At the same time, it was also that I just didn't want to stay out there too long, so I was moving rather quickly. Anyway, I can't seem to get myself to ask strangers for favors. (Asking questions is easier than favors though.) I don't know this is a necessary area to improve, but if it needs be, I know that it is going to be a tough challenge.
Another thing I found about myself is that I am now talking more comfortably with bartenders/waiters. (More with bartender). It may be because I already knew the guy, and we have talked before, but something feels different. It feels more comfortable revealing my odd yet humorous and fun side, and I so did that with this dude.
I have also gotten more comfortable talking about dating and related stuff with a cousin. I already asked her to help choose right pictures.
As it is getting near to actually setting up the profile, and I am getting more nervous. At the same time, checking out which dating services to use increases nervousness. Well, in the end, am I going to be worse off if everything goes bad? (I suppose there can be bad situations.) But if I don't get any dates, and no girl likes me, that is not necessarily the bad situation. Why? Because that is pretty much the status quo.
Still, the small spikes of nervousness come and goes, and I want to lessen the intensity.
RE: DMSI, will you be the final piece of puzzle? - apollolux - 01-01-2017
If you feel comfortable with it, feel free to post a few of the pics here and some of us may give you tips and/or pick out the best(s).
RE: DMSI, will you be the final piece of puzzle? - sw72hw - 01-01-2017
Well, I think I found a way to spend the extra cash in a smart way: subs. With the discount, I got all the weapons (Poetry of Eros, X32, X24, X124) plus some other stuff. Maybe having all the weapons is redundant, but hey, I have right tools for almost any situations related to sex. (As long as I can bring the willing girl
)What was ironic is that I picked them up pretty much right before I went to the church. (It's almost like I going there to atone my sin and blasphemy. LOL) BTW, I'm joking here. (Not really thinking sex and stuff like that as sin and blasphemy. Just wanted to say that for fun. LOL)
I arrived at the church late, so I ended up standing there entire time. There are a few stuff to write about people's reaction, but I am a bit hesitant. I'm hesitant because I think the really important iois, or something really worth while to consider as an ioi are the cases which a girl is grabbing my crotch, rubbing her body (boobs, ass, or entire body) to me in a way that is very transparent with what she wants, and/or she's telling/whispering me that she wants to have sex, sleep with me, or f*** me. I'm also hesitant, because other iois other than the ones I wrote above can leave a huge room for misinterpretation and inflated assumptions about the iois' meanings. (Things can be coincidental, and it could have no meaning whatsoever. Or I could be easily mistaken that it was an ioi for me, it wasn't totally that.)
Nevertheless, I'm going to write the stuff here. First is with a girl (literally a girl, whose age is probably between 8 and 12). She was looking/glancing at me several time. (and when I caught her looking at me, she quickly turned her head.) Second is with a pregnant woman (seems early weeks). The woman glanced at me at me a few times, slightly nervously. (Hey woman, I'm not gonna do anything, OKAY?) After a while, the family (with the girl) left, and the pregnant woman moved to the spot. She also wanted her boyfriend/husband to come next to her, but the guy refused. I didn't hear what the guy was saying to her, but based on the gesture, the guy was concerned about blocking my view or standing in front of me. (Interesting.)
After the mass, I went to get a lunch. Then I saw a family of four sitting across me. I saw a baby boy staring at me in the eye for a very long time. (Like several minutes.) It could have been something behind me, but it seemed and felt as if the baby was staring at me for that long period of time.
I had a great conversation with the lyft driver on my way back home. The conversation was great to a point that the driver stayed in my area for a while to just have a conversation. (A similar thing happened on my way to see a therapist in the past.) It was great to a point that the driver told me that I'm the most interesting person he met in 2017. (LOL on that) He also added that he had few interesting conversations before, but nothing interesting enough to a point to stay to just have a conversation.
In the conversation, I noticed that I pulled off some controversial material/possibly offensive material in a humorous way. The conversation was intelligent conversation, stimulating conversations, yet, it was also hilarious (on a few spots.) I was again more comfortable bringing my odd, possibly controversial, yet funny side out naturally without much effort. In other words, I am more comfortable bringing that side out, and this has happened without my effort or trying to bring it out like that. It also worked because the person was very receptive. Given that I was able to do this yesterday easily, much seem to also matter how receptive the person is, and how much that person can match me. I feel that I have developed much skills in being able to match and follow the topics and levels of conversation based on how the other person is doing, but I also find that if the person is receptive, I can and do much more for both of us.
Speaking of funny side, I think I already had it from the past. For instance, after my first psychiatric evaluation, I asked the tester about whether the medicine will change me. The person said, no you will still be smart and funny guy. (This was 10 years ago.) Secondly, there is a case in my undergraduate time. This was when we were doing class leading (my group), and in our class leading, we decided to split the class into several groups. I got stationed in a group purely made of girls. I don't remember what it was exactly, but there was a situation in which I mentioned something, and what I remember was that it wasn't too funny, probably more silly side. A few girls laughed, and there was one that was laughing quite hard. I also mentioned something else, and this girl was like "Oh my god, you're so funny." What I find interesting is that there were quite a few moments in which I didn't try to be funny at all, but the situation turned out to be funny for others in my lif. (More like hilarious.) Now I seem to be having more control over this side of me. (And becoming more comfortable in bringing them out.)
Thinking about the past also reminded me of a few times that girls might have shown me their interests. For instance, when I first started studying abroad, bunch of girls out of random came to me and asking for my fries. (They were also playing a game with one another, and it seems that I was the target.) I don't know whether this is a sign of interest, but the girls were giggling like crazy, as they were doing that stuff.
Secondly, I was at a camp, with a bunch of other guys when I was in grade 11. I got sick at the camp, so I was pretty much not doing anything after the first few days. One time, they brought one girl. Briefly talked to this girl a little bit, and then went to bed, trying to sleep. But then I overheard the girl talking with a guy, and she was asking whether I was gay. (The guy's response was I don't know, I think he might be bi.) This was when I restrained myself very much, disciplined myself a lot to not get involved with any girls. (Partly due to my parents' expectation, and other parts, I don't know why I did that.) A day later, this girl went swimming with other guys in the middle of late evening/night, and it was raining outside. (Pool outdoor) She and the other guys came back later, wet. (Wet clothes and everything.) The girl was explicitly saying that her clothes are wet that she needs to put on another clothes. She specifically asked for my clothing, looking at my eyes. My thought was like, I don't know you, and that why should I lend you my clothes. The other guy, I could see that he wanted to take the girl away from me, as he was feeling the situation was uncomfortable (I think the guy was a little bit afraid of me. Not a typical fear, but more like in a way I'm like his boss that the girl's acting could serious jeopardize him type of fear. Come to think of what it was like, that was the feeling/vibe I was getting.) The last night before departure, this girl brother another girl to the room. And the other girl, after getting the introduction, went to my bed and crawled inside. She had this coy smile when she took over my bed. At the time, I was thinking, God damn it, I got an early morning departure tomorrow. I didn't know what to do, and I was like God damn it, stop taking my bed, I took a while to make that bed. I decided that the situation wasn't going to improve, so I took another guy (a guy who has already left)'s bed, started to make again, and crawled inside, covering blanket. (I'm pretty sensitive that even with small light and sound, I have difficulty falling asleep.) Based on what I could hear, the girls were taking their tops off and might have given a strip tease or something similar. (It could have been just one girl, as I was hearing one of the guy praising the girl's breasts.) I didn't react to any of that, and was just thinking, go, I gotta sleep, early day tomorrow. I don't know if it was my action that caused the stuff, but the girl soon said to the guys and the other girl that it felt weird, and that she wanted to leave. And the girls took off.
Third, back in my home country, when I was in probably grade 10 or 11, I was talking to this mathematical tutor about how I just want to live a single life. (This was the stuff I was telling myself. I was telling myself that I had no interest in girls, just want to live a single life. I want to focus only on study and achieving successes.) She then told me, oh yeah there was this really handsome guy who was exactly like you. He had no interest in women and he was asked about his ideal type of girlfriend/wife, he would say, I'm just going to marry the stars up in the sky. Then I asked her back, so then, are you saying that I'm handsome? She then shut her mouth, and switched the subject very quickly.
Fourth, this happened not too long after when I first started going to a college. I was in already late for a place I needed to be, and then I met a girl from a class and her friend in a bus. The classmate said hi, and randomly asked me, hey do you have a girlfriend? I replied her no, I don't have a girlfriend. The reaction of the girl was like, (gasp), I can't believe such a cute guy like you don't have a girlfriend. And I was like okay.
Fifth, again my time in college, I have had several incidences in which a group of bunch of girls would be coming from the opposite side, and as they get near me, and as they suddenly pass me, they would start look at each other and giggle. (I was like, what, is something on my face?) This may not mean anything, but I heard that girls can do that when they see an attractive guy.
And I have a few more possible examples, but the details are somewhat blurry that I'm not going to write anymore. (They are more recent.)
And as I was writing this, I had to go bang my head a few times in the pillow. Man, I could have had so much more experiences with the girls, if I knew about it, or if I acted.
At the same time, I'm starting to think, WTF am I thinking here? Why am I telling people about it? (Believe me, I think this may be first or second time of telling anyone.) Also, I am wondering if I am having inflated interpretation of the situations. God, WHF is DMSI doing to my head?
I can't tell if this is placebo or not, but I can tell that something strange is happening, and I can't quite grasp, or tell what it is. It may also be that DMSI's healing process is somehow giving huge confidence/ego boost to a point that leads to my inflated interpretation, and this I am not sure if it is a good thing.
Oh well, assuming that I was quite attractive guy (which comes from the assumptions that I made are accurate), I just hope that DMSI can bring that out from me more, and make that more natural to me. If not, well, let's see what this thing can do. As I wrote, I am not entirely sure whether this is a placebo, or something else, but I think that I am experiencing something different. Two things will be worth while to observe. One is whether these changes will get me a girlfriend, sex, and etc. Second is whether these changes will be kept even after semester starts. (I have tendency to go back to the way it was after school starts. I feel that I am a very different person when I am not in the school vs when I am in the school. This has been more true in the graduate program.)
RE: DMSI, will you be the final piece of puzzle? - sw72hw - 01-01-2017
(01-01-2017, 06:17 PM)apollolux Wrote: If you feel comfortable with it, feel free to post a few of the pics here and some of us may give you tips and/or pick out the best(s).
Apollolux, I am not too comfortable with posting pictures. (Let alone I wasn't even comfortable giving out my location.) The reason is that in other forum, I have seen/heard a guy getting into some serious trouble in his life due to the stuff he posted. Given that I try to maintain my privacy as much as possible. Besides, I can't post the pictures as I'm given an access to his portfolio for my pics. If I were to post the pictures, it will be basically equivalent to giving everyone access to portfolios and make their decisions. (Giving too much control, and can definitely mess things up.)
With regard to the photos, I asked my cousin to choose a few for me. She chose a few, and hopefully the pics will be good enough. One thing that was disappointing was that the earlier photos had lights in the background (literally captured lights), which made me and my cousin feel bad/mad as this is some amateur stuff. Perhaps the groupon's huge discount was an indicator of it. Nevertheless, it wasn't that expensive, (much cheaper than the alternative) and that even if the guy was an amateur, it wasn't a huge loss for me. However, if this is the case, I will have to hope that DMSI aura will do the trick. (I don't know how that works in online or in pictures.) Still what matters is that I took an action (although the result of it is yet to be seen), and that I have gotten probably the furthest I've ever gone to in my entire life with regards to dating, sex and relationship.
One thing that was interesting is that my cousin seem to know a little bit about online dating, even when she claims that she has never done it, and not interested in doing it. (Knew a little bit too much about pictures and etc.)
She apparently thinks highly of Coffee Meets Bagel, and does not like Tinder. Question is, can CMB work if I have small number of facebook friends, while most of them are not even in this country? (I think I may have total of 60 people in the US at best, and less than 20 are in the town)
Anyway, which apps and/or sites do you guys recommend? I was thinking Bumble, Tinder, Match, OkCupid, and maybe CMB. (As my cousin seem to show strong preference, even though she is denying it.)
RE: DMSI, will you be the final piece of puzzle? - apollolux - 01-01-2017
Okiedokie.
RE: DMSI, will you be the final piece of puzzle? - chaosvrgn - 01-01-2017
(01-01-2017, 10:50 PM)sw72hw Wrote: She apparently thinks highly of Coffee Meets Bagel, and does not like Tinder. Question is, can CMB work if I have small number of facebook friends, while most of them are not even in this country? (I think I may have total of 60 people in the US at best, and less than 20 are in the town)
Anyway, which apps and/or sites do you guys recommend? I was thinking Bumble, Tinder, Match, OkCupid, and maybe CMB. (As my cousin seem to show strong preference, even though she is denying it.)
Yo --
Self-proclaimed online dating master here (I get TONS of dates and hookups from online dating).
Avoid CMB at all costs. Your cousin likes CMB because it puts all the power in the hands of the woman and the men take all the risk. It works like this: Every day, you're sent a number of matches at noon. Usually one, but sometimes more. You either "like" or "dislike" that match.
That's what the MEN see.
The women? When they log in, they get a list of all the men that "liked" them and they get to choose one. In other words, they never have to deal with the burden of being rejected. ALL the risk is on us.
On Tinder, if women swipe right and don't immediately match, they have to deal with the negative fee-fees of potential rejection.
When it comes to online dating (I really need to write a guide on this), the game is to get maximum results (a date, a hookup, whatever your goal is) with minimum investment. That's because the economics between women on online dating and men are so disparate.
I stick to Tinder and OkCupid and I do pretty good (15 matches on Tinder right now, 36 on OkCupid).
RE: DMSI, will you be the final piece of puzzle? - sw72hw - 01-01-2017
(01-01-2017, 11:05 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: Yo --
Self-proclaimed online dating master here (I get TONS of dates and hookups from online dating).
Avoid CMB at all costs. Your cousin likes CMB because it puts all the power in the hands of the woman and the men take all the risk. It works like this: Every day, you're sent a number of matches at noon. Usually one, but sometimes more. You either "like" or "dislike" that match.
That's what the MEN see.
The women? When they log in, they get a list of all the men that "liked" them and they get to choose one. In other words, they never have to deal with the burden of being rejected. ALL the risk is on us.
On Tinder, if women swipe right and don't immediately match, they have to deal with the negative fee-fees of potential rejection.
When it comes to online dating (I really need to write a guide on this), the game is to get maximum results (a date, a hookup, whatever your goal is) with minimum investment. That's because the economics between women on online dating and men are so disparate.
I stick to Tinder and OkCupid and I do pretty good (15 matches on Tinder right now, 36 on OkCupid).
Cool. Thank you for the information. Oh and I just realized this before I was about to go to bed. Although it's late, Happy New Year everyone, and may you guys find the success you are looking for!
RE: DMSI, will you be the final piece of puzzle? - sw72hw - 01-02-2017
I got the pics, so I started with the app. Since I am tired today, I decided to start with two, Tinder and Bumble. (I heard that Bumble can be good for introverted guys, so I began with it.)
For some reason, I am having a problem with linking Tinder with Facebook, so I can't do that for a while, until I figure it out.
And as far as Bumble goes, I got no match so far. I've been on it for about 2 hours or so, and yet, I haven't gotten anything. How long does it typically take to get a few matches?
I also purchased the Boost. ($7.99, and I just want to see what it does. If the app or the features suck, then I'll cancel next month.) Yet, it seems to be doing nothing. (If it is working correctly as it is advertised, and if there is a girl who swiped me right, I should be seeing that person. Yet, I didn't see anyone.)
Oh well, if something was supposed to happen, I suppose I fucked up the profile real big time, or the photos are real shit. (Or I maybe just look really terrible, which in that case, I suppose I should give up online dating altogether.)
Tomorrow, I'm going to work on creating OkCupid profile, and see of that's gonna be something else. I also plan on getting Tinder fixed. (By any means, please do help if you know the fix.)
I'm off to sleep. Soooo tired for some unknown reason.
RE: DMSI, will you be the final piece of puzzle? - chaosvrgn - 01-03-2017
(01-02-2017, 10:12 PM)sw72hw Wrote: I got the pics, so I started with the app. Since I am tired today, I decided to start with two, Tinder and Bumble. (I heard that Bumble can be good for introverted guys, so I began with it.)
For some reason, I am having a problem with linking Tinder with Facebook, so I can't do that for a while, until I figure it out.
And as far as Bumble goes, I got no match so far. I've been on it for about 2 hours or so, and yet, I haven't gotten anything. How long does it typically take to get a few matches?
I also purchased the Boost. ($7.99, and I just want to see what it does. If the app or the features suck, then I'll cancel next month.) Yet, it seems to be doing nothing. (If it is working correctly as it is advertised, and if there is a girl who swiped me right, I should be seeing that person. Yet, I didn't see anyone.)
Oh well, if something was supposed to happen, I suppose I ***** up the profile real big time, or the photos are real shit. (Or I maybe just look really terrible, which in that case, I suppose I should give up online dating altogether.)
Tomorrow, I'm going to work on creating OkCupid profile, and see of that's gonna be something else. I also plan on getting Tinder fixed. (By any means, please do help if you know the fix.)
I'm off to sleep. Soooo tired for some unknown reason.
Don't waste your time with Bumble. It's the same concept as Coffee Meets Bagel. There's no risk for women. Women are just shown a list of men who liked them and they get to choose from that pool. AND THEN, men can't even send the first message. Women HAVE to initiate. It's hypergamy on steroids. Unless you're cut like a diamond, or flashing some money, you're wasting your time.
See more info here: https://techcrunch.com/2014/12/02/bumble-is-exactly-like-tinder-except-girls-are-in-charge/
My rule of thumb is: Never waste time with a platform that places the burden of performance even more more on men. Right now, OkCupid and Tinder are your best options -- IF you understand online dating economics and you know how to optimize your profile.
Hint: Keep them super short and punchy. Only one or two pictures, high action. Have some kind of call to action to pre-qualify the women (treat 'em like sales leads). I posted about this in-depth on my own journal. Will try to find the post.
RE: DMSI, will you be the final piece of puzzle? - SargeMaximus - 01-03-2017
Just saw this now...
(12-30-2016, 06:35 PM)Shannon Wrote: Ah, but you are wrong.
I could care less what a woman thinks. I do things my way. If a woman doesn't like that, she can deal with it. By being true to myself, I only attract women who want what I represent.
But, if I want to find a date on a dating site, it makes sense to give the best impression of myself to my potential matches, so that I come across as being as high value as possible and thereby attracting the highest value female.
I still don't care what they think. I just want a maximally attractive woman to respond. That is how one accomplishes that goal.
I think this is kind of splitting hairs.
What I meant was, one should care enough (i.e. make an effort) about how you're perceived by women if one wants a woman. Simple as that.
Also, some of us (i.e. Me) don't have the luxury of being able to do things our way and succeed.
RE: DMSI, will you be the final piece of puzzle? - sw72hw - 01-03-2017
Okay. Fixed Tinder, but nothing what so ever, I purchased boost of Bumble to see what types of women like me. (With the beeline.) So far nothing. (It was like $10, and I wanted to experiment. I guess I'm going to be canceling that subscription soon.)
OkCupid. Bunch of messages and likes from girls wanting sex or cam for a fee (one of them was even begging....), no real girls, except one from Hong Kong. Chatted a bit, and she went to bed.
I suppose I may give some time (as it is Monday) and see if anything happens, otherwise, I'll let it go and focus on other stuff.
Perhaps online dating ins't exactly a great spot given my personality. (Just a thought.)
Going to grab lunch, and will be off for something soon.
RE: DMSI, will you be the final piece of puzzle? - Benjamin - 01-03-2017
Downloaded bumble yesterday, it seems fucking useless. Yesterday I got like 5 girls come up to swipe, today about the same then it disappears. Is this by design that it only has a few?
And WTF, the advertising says "a win win for both genders". What retard wrote that? :z
RE: DMSI, will you be the final piece of puzzle? - sw72hw - 01-03-2017
(01-03-2017, 03:57 PM)Benjamin Wrote: Downloaded bumble yesterday, it seems ***** useless. Yesterday I got like 5 girls come up to swipe, today about the same then it disappears. Is this by design that it only has a few?
And WTF, the advertising says "a win win for both genders". What retard wrote that? :z
I suppose the limit on the number of swipes is probably due to not using their premium service.
Anyway, I found that Tinder and Bumble are both buggy. Last night Bumble crashed on me twice, and I believe that I am given a few girls to swipe again. (Don't remember if I swiped right or left.) Also, Bumble seems not be able to keep up with my distance limitation. I don't even want to bother with 5 miles or above (as I don't drive), but I was generous and gave it 20 miles. It's giving me like near 30 miles.
Another thing I noticed is that girl seem to look better on Tinder than Bumble. Sadly, Bumble and Tinder (more so on Tinder even though they have longer profile limit) profile do not usually contain much important information that I have to entirely rely on the looks only.
Still no match or like on either Bumble or Tinder. (And I accidentally gave a few super likes on Tinder as I was trying to read more of profile. Uhh, such a terrible learning curve). It's less than 24 hours, and given that it's a week day (and that many people could have left the town.) I should probably give some more time for actual match to come. On these apps.
I got another Facebook message from the Hong Kong girl, which I had to cut off as I had to leave. (Well, besides, nothing can happen with the girl, other than doing some cam, which I am not interested) I also got a like from another Asian girl on OKC, but she lives in New Jersey. (At least 4 hours away from driving.) I swiped a few more girls, no mutual match yet, but again, I didn't give enough time for responses to arrive. I also gave a dozen or so likes so that I can keep a list of girls that I may be interested, and soon (probably tonight) I will send a few messages. I sent one message to a girl, but didn't get any response. One thing I noticed about OKC is that Asian girls who seem to visit me or like me on OKC happen to be better looking than Asian girls on either Tinder or Bumble. Sadly they are too far to make any logistics to work.
Right now, I am on a break and I can invest some time into this (answered quite a lot of questions on OKC), but I am not continue doing this for a long period time. (Investing much time and that.) I should start investigating my career and academic options soon, and some other stuff.
Oh well, I suppose I may use Tinder Boost to put my profiles up, but not feeling to do it. (Well, my profile needs to appear on the girls' tinder to get like or pass right?) I'm wondering if anyone has even seen my profile at this moment. I heard that the apps' algorithms are messed up. I read that some people who were successful in the past didn't get any successes or their match rate got significantly lowered after certain time. (Which they pointed to tinder and Bumble's introduction of paid features and other stuff.)
It's annoying that I have no clue of what's going on. Well, I'd at least like to know that I am getting rejected, then I can know whether to work on my profile or I'm not a good fit for the platform. (I don't know if it's even a rejection or not be seen at all.)
I gotta find something else to occupy myself to.