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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - DarthXedonias - 02-23-2021
(02-23-2021, 01:09 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote:(02-23-2021, 12:26 PM)Frosted Wrote: @Shannon Or you could just release UMS2 initially as a single stage (Stage 7), and then work on the 6 stage version when you have time.
Frosted ,Man,thats best suggested addition I've seen on this...to me,...this si DING,ding!! Bonus round!! Stage 7 and then wait for the rest. F-en- A ,Man!! with the latest fear remover...it would be bang-ging!!
Ya know that is a good idea. The only problem would be that some people would just keep on running Stage 7 instead of the whole program, if it works for them that way that is. The way he could get around that though is he could literally just charge the full 600 USD up front for just having stage 7 then the customer gets the other stages as he produces them. He gets the cost up front for the whole program and customers get the whole program in one stage with the ability to run it in smaller stages later on. Later on as he comes out with each program he can simply charge a certain amount per program as usual. It does offer more choice for people as well. Those who might not get as much subconscious boredom running a single stager can get it in single stage format while paying the full price and those for whom it might work better in different stages can at least get it that way later on when those stages come out.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Frosted - 02-23-2021
(02-23-2021, 01:19 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote:(02-23-2021, 01:09 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote:(02-23-2021, 12:26 PM)Frosted Wrote: @Shannon Or you could just release UMS2 initially as a single stage (Stage 7), and then work on the 6 stage version when you have time.
Frosted ,Man,thats best suggested addition I've seen on this...to me,...this si DING,ding!! Bonus round!! Stage 7 and then wait for the rest. F-en- A ,Man!! with the latest fear remover...it would be bang-ging!!
Ya know that is a good idea. The only problem would be that some people would just keep on running Stage 7 instead of the whole program, if it works for them that way that is. The way he could get around that though is he could literally just charge the full 600 USD up front for just having stage 7 then the customer gets the other stages as he produces them. He gets the cost up front for the whole program and customers get the whole program in one stage with the ability to run it in smaller stages later on. Later on as he comes out with each program he can simply charge a certain amount per program as usual. It does offer more choice for people as well. Those who might not get as much subconscious boredom running a single stager can get it in single stage format while paying the full price and those for whom it might work better in different stages can at least get it that way later on when those stages come out.
Exactly. Plus there will be more incentive to run the 6 stages because they will be higher tech by the time Shannon gets to them. Unlike LTU 6 which stage 7 is more advanced so less incentive to re run the whole set.
Also, there will be something to look forward to, once you purchase UMS 2 and wait for the stages to be released. And since stage 7 is already a complete program in and of itself, Shannon won't feel as pressured to make the 6 stage like with LTU 6, resulting in a win-win.
I think packaging the single stage (Stage 7) with the other 6 stages is an idea worth considering.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - ncbeareatingman - 02-23-2021
Could some one tell me,how long one loop is, of Overcoming Fear V2 5.75.5g?
" Instructions:
Use this program for 3 (three) loops per day on, for 6 (six) days on and 1 (one) day off."
Thank You!!
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - ncbeareatingman - 02-23-2021
(02-23-2021, 01:25 PM)Frosted Wrote:(02-23-2021, 01:19 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote:(02-23-2021, 01:09 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote:(02-23-2021, 12:26 PM)Frosted Wrote: @Shannon Or you could just release UMS2 initially as a single stage (Stage 7), and then work on the 6 stage version when you have time.
Frosted ,Man,thats best suggested addition I've seen on this...to me,...this si DING,ding!! Bonus round!! Stage 7 and then wait for the rest. F-en- A ,Man!! with the latest fear remover...it would be bang-ging!!
Ya know that is a good idea. The only problem would be that some people would just keep on running Stage 7 instead of the whole program, if it works for them that way that is. The way he could get around that though is he could literally just charge the full 600 USD up front for just having stage 7 then the customer gets the other stages as he produces them. He gets the cost up front for the whole program and customers get the whole program in one stage with the ability to run it in smaller stages later on. Later on as he comes out with each program he can simply charge a certain amount per program as usual. It does offer more choice for people as well. Those who might not get as much subconscious boredom running a single stager can get it in single stage format while paying the full price and those for whom it might work better in different stages can at least get it that way later on when those stages come out.
Exactly. Plus there will be more incentive to run the 6 stages because they will be higher tech by the time Shannon gets to them. Unlike LTU 6 which stage 7 is more advanced so less incentive to re run the whole set.
Also, there will be something to look forward to, once you purchase UMS 2 and wait for the stages to be released. And since stage 7 is already a complete program in and of itself, Shannon won't feel as pressured to make the 6 stage like with LTU 6, resulting in a win-win.
I think packaging the single stage (Stage 7) with the other 6 stages is an idea worth considering.
and Yet another take on this whole thing.... it could be said and would be that starting out with Stage 7 'refresher' finish line,as it were......according to the abouve stages and statements,would in fact 'be old hat' by the time stage 6 of a UMSv2 came along, why? because,as each stage progressed so would the technology and therefore in many ways stage 6 could and probably would be well ahead of stage 7.
I think a single stage program with the current build and bells would do just fine until a FULL ON 6 stage set,would be built and release all at once. Plus it could give potential buyers a change to see what this mug could really really and be all the more of an incentive to purchase the Big Bang of UMSv2 6 stage set,with a refresher stage 7 complete.
SO as far as IM concerned aa single stage program with current build and bells,and wait it out for down the road when all is said and done ,so to speak.
thats my vibe on it all.
The ultimate of course is Shannon's move,as we all know.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - freerad98 - 02-23-2021
(02-23-2021, 03:39 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: Could some one tell me,how long one loop is, of Overcoming Fear V2 5.75.5g?
" Instructions:
Use this program for 3 (three) loops per day on, for 6 (six) days on and 1 (one) day off."
Thank You!!
1:48 one hour 48 minutes each
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - freerad98 - 02-23-2021
(02-21-2021, 01:33 PM)Shannon Wrote:(02-21-2021, 01:27 AM)Minititan Wrote: Hi Shannon can I make a little request/suggestion, when uploading your newer subs could you include a text copy of the sales page in the download able files alongside the subs, recently I went to use an older sub and realised its been updated on the store page to a different version and the instructions and asrb are for the newer version so wasn't sure what loops and days on and off to use.
We have been trying to make a PDF of it for exactly that reason, but things have gotten so complicated that it's getting hard to remember all the different steps. Ben is on it though.
FYI, most modern browsers have a print to PDF function that can be used to save a copy of the sales page. If you don't want all the page header/menu/etc., just select the sales copy text and print to PDF choosing "selection only" under more settings.
Maybe this can just become a part of the downloadable links?
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Benjamin - 02-23-2021
Yep, i've started making them for the latest programs. If anyone has MLS or NSFM they will find it in their downloads.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Wiseg9999 - 02-24-2021
Shannon, can you help please re: MLS v5.75.6g.
I can understand how this sub can help if you are studying and physically learning for an exam. But can it help in developing skills and/or improving them?
For example, I have been day trading for last 12 months - can MLS help me to learn from my mistakes? Or does one physically have to study? Will i recognise patterns easier? Can my risk management improve from day to day business?
What about if i want to become better at chatting up girls for example? Can my skills improve through trial and error or again does the sub rely/work best when on physically study and learning.
Same question for language, although i am not learning language grammer, i would love for my French to improve this year through reading or listening to movies.
Are these examples where the sub can help me improve my skills? thanks Shannon.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Darwin - 02-24-2021
I can tell you my experience with the previous MLS, and the current one will be an extension so it should be helpful.
On MLS you'll have a deep desire to learn about anything you want to, and studying will come in any form that is useful to what you're trying to learn. If you want to box for example, I found that my ability to mirror good boxers body movement and and practice their techniques enhanced greatly, I would naturally slip into a place where I would watch and emulate without even consciously deciding to (like I was in a trance like concentration), and automatically become better.
You'll be able to connect dots and create mental models in a way which allows you to not only learn something, but learn it quickly and efficiently, and that skill in developing mental models/connecting dots is hyper useful in any mental domain. For trading you'll find you can visualise price movements and how different types of moving averages will move in line with those movements (something that I found I was able to do when I was on it previously). You will absolutely recognise patterns, solve problems and learn from mistakes - on the last point you'll actually remember mistakes you'd forgotten and wonder how you ever made them since the mistake was so obvious .
The main problem i ended up with was sticking with a couple of things and not tyring to learn absolutely everything. I also self sabotaged through over eating, stonewalling and other things which i won't get into.
If you manage to not self sabotage in some way then when this works it's like the world becomes an interesting place of possibility and there's no real mental limit on what you can learn/do.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Yous - 02-24-2021
(02-23-2021, 01:25 PM)Frosted Wrote:(02-23-2021, 01:19 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote:(02-23-2021, 01:09 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote:(02-23-2021, 12:26 PM)Frosted Wrote: @Shannon Or you could just release UMS2 initially as a single stage (Stage 7), and then work on the 6 stage version when you have time.
Frosted ,Man,thats best suggested addition I've seen on this...to me,...this si DING,ding!! Bonus round!! Stage 7 and then wait for the rest. F-en- A ,Man!! with the latest fear remover...it would be bang-ging!!
Ya know that is a good idea. The only problem would be that some people would just keep on running Stage 7 instead of the whole program, if it works for them that way that is. The way he could get around that though is he could literally just charge the full 600 USD up front for just having stage 7 then the customer gets the other stages as he produces them. He gets the cost up front for the whole program and customers get the whole program in one stage with the ability to run it in smaller stages later on. Later on as he comes out with each program he can simply charge a certain amount per program as usual. It does offer more choice for people as well. Those who might not get as much subconscious boredom running a single stager can get it in single stage format while paying the full price and those for whom it might work better in different stages can at least get it that way later on when those stages come out.
Exactly. Plus there will be more incentive to run the 6 stages because they will be higher tech by the time Shannon gets to them. Unlike LTU 6 which stage 7 is more advanced so less incentive to re run the whole set.
Also, there will be something to look forward to, once you purchase UMS 2 and wait for the stages to be released. And since stage 7 is already a complete program in and of itself, Shannon won't feel as pressured to make the 6 stage like with LTU 6, resulting in a win-win.
I think packaging the single stage (Stage 7) with the other 6 stages is an idea worth considering.
But as well, finishing stage 6, if its more advance, it will be neccesary as well to update stage 7 again with the last technology, if not it has no sense to has a simple stage more advance than the refresher.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Wiseg9999 - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 06:44 AM)Darwin Wrote: I can tell you my experience with the previous MLS, and the current one will be an extension so it should be helpful.
On MLS you'll have a deep desire to learn about anything you want to, and studying will come in any form that is useful to what you're trying to learn. If you want to box for example, I found that my ability to mirror good boxers body movement and and practice their techniques enhanced greatly, I would naturally slip into a place where I would watch and emulate without even consciously deciding to (like I was in a trance like concentration), and automatically become better.
You'll be able to connect dots and create mental models in a way which allows you to not only learn something, but learn it quickly and efficiently, and that skill in developing mental models/connecting dots is hyper useful in any mental domain. For trading you'll find you can visualise price movements and how different types of moving averages will move in line with those movements (something that I found I was able to do when I was on it previously). You will absolutely recognise patterns, solve problems and learn from mistakes - on the last point you'll actually remember mistakes you'd forgotten and wonder how you ever made them since the mistake was so obvious .
The main problem i ended up with was sticking with a couple of things and not tyring to learn absolutely everything. I also self sabotaged through over eating, stonewalling and other things which i won't get into.
If you manage to not self sabotage in some way then when this works it's like the world becomes an interesting place of possibility and there's no real mental limit on what you can learn/do.
Sh!t dude - thats amazing.. I use price and moving averages.. and would love to box too.. thanks bro..
Did this happen quickly or only after you finished the program? also, how is your learning ability now? I mean can you still box or trade the stuff you "learnt" while on the program?
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Shannon - 02-24-2021
(02-24-2021, 05:46 AM)Wiseg9999 Wrote: Shannon, can you help please re: MLS v5.75.6g.
I can understand how this sub can help if you are studying and physically learning for an exam. But can it help in developing skills and/or improving them?
For example, I have been day trading for last 12 months - can MLS help me to learn from my mistakes? Or does one physically have to study? Will i recognise patterns easier? Can my risk management improve from day to day business?
What about if i want to become better at chatting up girls for example? Can my skills improve through trial and error or again does the sub rely/work best when on physically study and learning.
Same question for language, although i am not learning language grammer, i would love for my French to improve this year through reading or listening to movies.
Are these examples where the sub can help me improve my skills? thanks Shannon.
I can't really say it better than Darwin did. MLS is designed to cause you to learn whatever you want or need to learn, in the most rapid and efficient manner possible. It doesn't matter what it is, what it entails, what it requires. You can use it to learn boxing, French, trading, or anything else you want or need to learn, and do so at your maximum speed and ability levels. It also seeks to raise those ability levels by actually increasing your intelligence and doing certain other things.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - Superman - 02-24-2021
My vote is for whatever moves us closer to a new release for UMS in the shortest amount of time.
It could be a single stage like the current one, or since Shannon doesn't like 6 stage sets why not make it a 2-3 stage set instead?
If it works as a single and 6 stage why not a 2-3 stage or Side A/B as well?
Just my thoughts on it
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5 - sushi521 - 02-24-2021
(02-22-2021, 08:44 PM)Shannon Wrote:(02-22-2021, 06:21 PM)sushi521 Wrote:(02-22-2021, 02:05 PM)Shannon Wrote:(02-22-2021, 12:54 PM)sushi521 Wrote: Hey Shannon, any plan to make a lucid dreaming subliminal?
Not right now. Do you think that would be a popular one?
Lucid dreaming is very popular nowadays, but I guess people don't know about subliminals or IML
Lucid dreaming is not the easiest thing to induce through a subliminal...
Do you think MLS would help with this?