(09-26-2024, 06:35 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-25-2024, 10:02 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote: With ME the more you use it the bigger your member will grow and there's no limit in theory.  Will the new overcome premature ejaculation be sort of the same.  The more we use it the longer and longer we will last? Or is it capped at a certain limit?

Is there a minimum limit the sub will try to get us to? For example get us to last at least 10 minutes/15 minutes etc?

OPE will be aimed at allowing you to last as long as you choose to, and then you release as you desire.  Not every man is going to want to last the same amount of time, and not every woman is going to want endless sex.  It therefore has to adjust to the couple, which means his conscious judgement and desire is the key.

But here is my doubt though...how is this different than what most do already that don't last very long which is just to stop themselves before the "point of no return?" How would we even know it's the sub and not just them stopping themselves if there is no baseline that the sub aims to get most guys to before they get to the point of no return?

Obviously if there was a minimum amount of time the sub aimed to get most men to so we would know things are working.

According to studies it takes a woman about 14 minutes to orgasm from the start of vaginal sex.  I was hoping the sub would help us to at least get to that minimum or a little longer without reaching the point of no return first to satisfy our partners which is probably the main reason most people would be getting this sub.

That's my hope at least for the sub to build a new baseline or much longer average time it takes to get to that first point of no return.

(09-26-2024, 10:15 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote:

(09-26-2024, 06:35 AM)Shannon Wrote: OPE will be aimed at allowing you to last as long as you choose to, and then you release as you desire.  Not every man is going to want to last the same amount of time, and not every woman is going to want endless sex.  It therefore has to adjust to the couple, which means his conscious judgement and desire is the key.

But here is my doubt though...how is this different than what most do already that don't last very long which is just to stop themselves before the "point of no return?" How would we even know it's the sub and not just them stopping themselves if there is no baseline that the sub aims to get most guys to before they get to the point of no return?

Obviously if there was a minimum amount of time the sub aimed to get most men to so we would know things are working.

According to studies it takes a woman about 14 minutes to orgasm from the start of vaginal sex.  I was hoping the sub would help us to at least get to that minimum or a little longer without reaching the point of no return first to satisfy our partners which is probably the main reason most people would be getting this sub.

That's my hope at least for the sub to build a new baseline or much longer average time it takes to get to that first point of no return.

If you doubt, then don't buy it.  There are several differences, but if I tell you what they are, guess what?  All my competitors will know how I did it.  And they're not doing these things, I guarantee you.  I will tell you this: OPE 5.11G is not going to be a light switch instant solution to premature ejaculation, but if you use it properly, it will solve the issue in the vast majority of cases, and you will be able to have physical sex continuously until you choose to orgasm.

14 minutes is an average time based on those studies.  Other studies disagree, and state that you would actually do better with most women if you aimed for ~ 20 minutes of physical sex.  I've had lovers who ranged from so sexually sensitive that more than 5 minutes was painful to lovers who went literally all day and still wanted more.  The goal of this program is to allow you to adapt to your lover and make sex work for you both, regardless of how long she needs you to go for her to achieve her first orgasm.  It also opens the door for you to keep going past that.

But like i said... if you doubt, then don't buy it.  And if you buy it, then be patient with it while it makes the necessary adjustments and changes.

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Deepe...#pid265605

(09-27-2024, 02:55 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: Thank Goodness "Absolute Self Confidence" in 6G is coming this Winter some time, in late '24 or Early 2025.  Definitely  gonna give  it a spin !!
Yah Vol !!!

(09-27-2024, 05:43 PM)Shannon Wrote: I am going to try to have it, and at least one paid 6G title, out by the end of the year.  But I am going to change it from "Absolute Self Confidence" to "Optimal Self Confidence".  Too much of a good thing, is not a good thing.  OSC is going to be a very, very different design to ASC.  It will also give much more long lasting to permanent results.  Been working on the design for a month or two already.

@Shannon I'm on UMSv2 stage 4 (finishing up 1st month) on first run. I was curious I started neurofeedback would it affect the subliminal in way. Do you recommend for it or against it?

(09-27-2024, 08:00 PM)Lionstrength Wrote: @Shannon I'm on UMSv2 stage 4 (finishing up 1st month) on first run. I was curious I started neurofeedback would it affect the subliminal in way. Do you recommend for it or against it?

I need more specifics about what exactly you're talking about.  That could be multiple things.

Any reports on Primal Masculinity from forum members?

I'm curious, but haven't seen any feedback yet.

(09-28-2024, 01:49 AM)Benjamin Wrote: Any reports on Primal Masculinity from forum members?

I'm curious, but haven't seen any feedback yet.

Nothing on the forum, you've seen what I have seen.

(09-26-2024, 12:29 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-26-2024, 10:15 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote: But here is my doubt though...how is this different than what most do already that don't last very long which is just to stop themselves before the "point of no return?" How would we even know it's the sub and not just them stopping themselves if there is no baseline that the sub aims to get most guys to before they get to the point of no return?

Obviously if there was a minimum amount of time the sub aimed to get most men to so we would know things are working.

According to studies it takes a woman about 14 minutes to orgasm from the start of vaginal sex.  I was hoping the sub would help us to at least get to that minimum or a little longer without reaching the point of no return first to satisfy our partners which is probably the main reason most people would be getting this sub.

That's my hope at least for the sub to build a new baseline or much longer average time it takes to get to that first point of no return.

If you doubt, then don't buy it.  There are several differences, but if I tell you what they are, guess what?  All my competitors will know how I did it.  And they're not doing these things, I guarantee you.  I will tell you this: OPE 5.11G is not going to be a light switch instant solution to premature ejaculation, but if you use it properly, it will solve the issue in the vast majority of cases, and you will be able to have physical sex continuously until you choose to orgasm.

14 minutes is an average time based on those studies.  Other studies disagree, and state that you would actually do better with most women if you aimed for ~ 20 minutes of physical sex.  I've had lovers who ranged from so sexually sensitive that more than 5 minutes was painful to lovers who went literally all day and still wanted more.  The goal of this program is to allow you to adapt to your lover and make sex work for you both, regardless of how long she needs you to go for her to achieve her first orgasm.  It also opens the door for you to keep going past that.

But like i said... if you doubt, then don't buy it.  And if you buy it, then be patient with it while it makes the necessary adjustments and changes.

Sounds like how p stars they can control when they finish.  Sounds interesting.  My logical mind was just trying to understand how it would work but I also understand you needing to protect your secrets.

Looking forward to it. I'm going to pm Ben with my purchase info in terms of the coupon for buyers of the original.

*Edit* Ben I pmd you.

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid265615

Shannon Wrote:I am pleased to announce the newest addition to our store, Overcoming Premature Ejaculation 5.11G. 
(And surprise! It's not just for men with PE!)

Get your copy here:

Overcoming Premature Ejaculation 5.11G
https://subliminal-shop.com/products/ove...c-d-hybrid

(09-28-2024, 04:03 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-28-2024, 01:49 AM)Benjamin Wrote: Any reports on Primal Masculinity from forum members?

I'm curious, but haven't seen any feedback yet.

Nothing on the forum, you've seen what I have seen.

Yeah, I figured if I made a post that maybe some forum members who were using it would comment.

(09-26-2024, 06:38 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-24-2024, 11:36 AM)Raz Wrote: Welcome back from your vacation @Shannon !

Can you please calculate the best volume for UMS v2 when you find the time?

Thank you!

I will put that in queue, but queue is pretty full for the moment.

Also, since the number of days on and off listening to a multi-stage program like UMS v2 rarely adds up perfectly to 32 days, is there a recommended amount of days we should take off between stages, or should we just go with with how our subconscious urges us to?

(09-29-2024, 03:04 AM)kserenyi Wrote:

(09-26-2024, 06:38 AM)Shannon Wrote: I will put that in queue, but queue is pretty full for the moment.

Also, since the number of days on and off listening to a multi-stage program like UMS v2 rarely adds up perfectly to 32 days, is there a recommended amount of days we should take off between stages, or should we just go with with how our subconscious urges us to?

The best option is to follow AutoConfig if you are getting input from that, and make a decision based on what seems to be the best choice to you based on the circumstances otherwise.

Will the first 6g sub on sale be in 2024 or 2025? I know Shannon you mentioned that absolute self confidence will be the first 6g sub (and free) but what about the first one on sale?

(09-29-2024, 11:59 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote: Will the first 6g sub on sale be in 2024 or 2025? I know Shannon you mentioned that absolute self confidence will be the first 6g sub (and free) but what about the first one on sale?

It's a good idea to presume that I will be later than my estimates, because things always take longer than I expect.  So most likely it will be in January or February of 2025, instead of December of 2024.

Alpha Male 7.0 is going to be the first paid program I start working on, but it will not be the first paid 6G subliminal that goes out for sale to the public.  That's because it will take me months to build it, even using the Alpha Male v6 script as a starting point.  Upgrading the script and then doing all the necessary additions and processing is going to take time.  So something else will be the first thing to make it to "for sale" first, and it will be a single stage program.