It doesn't say it on the sales page, but it applies for any program to minimize conflict and overwhelm as both will be running in your head at the same time.

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-How-N...ubliminals

If you're coming from a different producer, it's actually a good idea to take a good look at giving yourself a 32 day break before using any program from any other producer.  We cannot know what scripting techniques they use, how well they understand scripting or communicating with the subconscious, or what methods they are using (or attempting to use) or how successfully they are doing/attempting to do so.  We also don't know if they use anything to keep the script going in your subconscious mind after you stop using it, how long/how well that works or anything else about the subliminals of other producers.

I pioneered a method that causes you to start experiencing the effects of a subliminal before you start actually using it.  Depending on the program, person and some other factors like generation, it can start showing up between a day or so and two months before you start using it.  That means you may have the subliminal you want to use by us starting to affecting you already.

To be clear, you can start right now with X4A-1511. But if you do, you will likely experience what we have come to call "turbulence" if the subliminal you were using previously was of any value at all.  Turbulence is when you have more than one program running in your head, when one or more of them is attempting to use all available resources for itself.

All of my subliminals from 5G and later attempt to do this as a way of maximizing the effectiveness and success of the program. 

Turbulence can range from just feeling tired to headaches, confusion and dizziness.  Most of the time, people do not have a big deal with turbulence and it usually only lasts a day or two, maybe three at the most.  That is from using two of my more advanced subliminals back to back without a break.  Some people do that all the time, and others need a week or two between programs.

I can tell you that the experience of turbulence if you start X4A-1511 right now will depend on the following:

• Is the previous subliminal still trying to execute in your subconscious mind?  If so, you may experience turbulence.
  
• How powerful was it?  The more powerful, the more likely you are to experience turbulence, and the longer it will tend to last.
  
• How long did you run it?  Presuming that it was a powerful enough subliminal and there is still some sort of subconscious execution, then the longer you ran it, the more likely turbulence becomes and the longer it will last.
  

This is a good way to judge the power and effectiveness of the previous subliminal.  If it is not very powerful, my subliminal will overpower it quickly and there will be no noticeable turbulence.  If it was powerful and using advanced methods, you may experience turbulence.

To the best of my knowledge, there is only one other producer whose subliminals have a chance of causing turbulence when used with mine; mine will override and dominate all the rest I know about very quickly.

With all that said, in the end, it's your choice.  What appeals most to you?  How patient are you?  Go for it.  Just be aware that mixing subliminals from different producers can result in unexpected or unexplained results as the two different scripting methods may interact in ways I cannot know or predict, and therefore put safeties in place for.  The only thing I can do is try to dominate quickly and decisively to prevent issues.  So patience has value here, but I also understand that you didn't pay for it or subscribe (whichever you did) to wait.

(03-07-2024, 06:10 PM)Shannon Wrote: If you're coming from a different producer, it's actually a good idea to take a good look at giving yourself a 32 day break before using any program from any other producer.  We cannot know what scripting techniques they use, how well they understand scripting or communicating with the subconscious, or what methods they are using (or attempting to use) or how successfully they are doing/attempting to do so.  We also don't know if they use anything to keep the script going in your subconscious mind after you stop using it, how long/how well that works or anything else about the subliminals of other producers.

I pioneered a method that causes you to start experiencing the effects of a subliminal before you start actually using it.  Depending on the program, person and some other factors like generation, it can start showing up between a day or so and two months before you start using it.  That means you may have the subliminal you want to use by us starting to affecting you already.

To be clear, you can start right now with X4A-1511. But if you do, you will likely experience what we have come to call "turbulence" if the subliminal you were using previously was of any value at all.  Turbulence is when you have more than one program running in your head, when one or more of them is attempting to use all available resources for itself.

All of my subliminals from 5G and later attempt to do this as a way of maximizing the effectiveness and success of the program. 

Turbulence can range from just feeling tired to headaches, confusion and dizziness.  Most of the time, people do not have a big deal with turbulence and it usually only lasts a day or two, maybe three at the most.  That is from using two of my more advanced subliminals back to back without a break.  Some people do that all the time, and others need a week or two between programs.

I can tell you that the experience of turbulence if you start X4A-1511 right now will depend on the following:

• Is the previous subliminal still trying to execute in your subconscious mind?  If so, you may experience turbulence.
  
• How powerful was it?  The more powerful, the more likely you are to experience turbulence, and the longer it will tend to last.
  
• How long did you run it?  Presuming that it was a powerful enough subliminal and there is still some sort of subconscious execution, then the longer you ran it, the more likely turbulence becomes and the longer it will last.
  

This is a good way to judge the power and effectiveness of the previous subliminal.  If it is not very powerful, my subliminal will overpower it quickly and there will be no noticeable turbulence.  If it was powerful and using advanced methods, you may experience turbulence.

To the best of my knowledge, there is only one other producer whose subliminals have a chance of causing turbulence when used with mine; mine will override and dominate all the rest I know about very quickly.

With all that said, in the end, it's your choice.  What appeals most to you?  How patient are you?  Go for it.  Just be aware that mixing subliminals from different producers can result in unexpected or unexplained results as the two different scripting methods may interact in ways I cannot know or predict, and therefore put safeties in place for.  The only thing I can do is try to dominate quickly and decisively to prevent issues.  So patience has value here, but I also understand that you didn't pay for it or subscribe (whichever you did) to wait.

thank you for the detailed response.

I doubt the subliminal from other company where that powerful given that I'm looking for better options.

The results where basically this:

for every 10 nights that I would go clubbing, the subliminals from other company would show some benefits 3 or 4 of the nights and on those 3-4 nights I would see around 40-60% more interest/attention from women then normal.

to me these are not the results of a "powerful" subliminal and I'm unhappy with these results which is why Im looking t other options.

i'll try to wait at least 2-3 weeks but knowing myself I wil most likely lose patience and start using x4a much sooner then that; hopefully I do not experience much of that "turbulence" you mentioned.

Hey Shannon, building off your response to Josh, are you concerned about ordinary Bluetooth degrading audio quality? I was about to upgrade to a new phone that doesn't even have a wired headphone jack, and I'm big on masked format with headphones while working at my laptop. Hope you and your lady are recovering well, and many thanks in advance!

@Shannon

For E6 should I listen to the first 15 minutes or last 15 minutes of the loop (starting at 45 min mark) ?

(03-08-2024, 08:08 PM)London1 Wrote: @Shannon

For E6 should I listen to the first 15 minutes or last 15 minutes of the loop (starting at 45 min mark) ?

Both ideas work.

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The first 15 minutes are fine if you don't become distracted or zone out and press stop when the time is up.

The last 15 minutes are ideal, because of the same reasons and it stops automatically.

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Apologies for answering, I'm half asleep. I saw it was for @Shannon after I posted.

(03-06-2024, 07:08 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(03-06-2024, 06:38 PM)Lionstrength Wrote: Glad your okay (nothing too serious healthwise) best of wishes on your recovery.@Shannon

Thank you.

Quote:I had a question that popped into my head; if one is to use MLS 5.75.6G and improve their learning ability would this potentially also have their subconoscious mind learn/adapt to your subliminal more effectively afterwards? Thinking being subliminals are teaching your subconscious mind to grow/learn.

Scenario that brought the thought;

Currently using UMSv2 (on day 9 stage 1 current 2nd run) and using per instructions for 16 months. Lots changed great progress lots of improvements and all around changes in life includling sleepless nights and tiredness from resistance fear (major lack of self-worth) that I've been going through say as positive because once storm is over its gonna be great. However I'm currently in school and been having trouble with keeping with everything (passed course bummed certifcation exam and retake failed by 4 questions retaking class next year to stay on track with others). I'm a little behind on current class and not focused on it as much as I need/want to be and don't want to fail (studying accounting to get bookkeeping license and new job as a bookkeeper part-time new hybrid came from construction). All within the last 3 months (also dealt with major autoimmune issues nov-feb). As I was struggling with homework I know in past MLS was great study aid. What are your thoughts on my situations stay with UMS (I mean point of being a bookkeeper and school is to increase own financial intelligence and start investing for passive income by 2025 already have 1-2 major investments that could come late 2025/2026 that I want to take full advantage of). OR go on MLS to get through school (done end of May) and get catch up with everything and get out of the stress then start UMS in June? (with regardless of which I do I'm also in the process/unsuccessfully-ish trying to build productivity systems and habits to create flow such as bullet journaling and getting things done for all ventures work, school, personal, and martial arts community)

Thanks ahead of time for the feedback

First point: My subliminals don't teach most of the time.  In almost all cases, I create a set of instructions, and your subconscious is responsible for executing those instructions.  I take this approach because it is impossible for me to take into account all possible variables that my customers may have to deal with.  So I set a goal (or a set of goals) and then give instructions on what needs to be done to achieve those goals.  The closest I ever get to teaching is that on rare occasions I will explicitly define a specific word that is important within the script in order to make absolutely sure that nobody misunderstands what it is intended to mean.

Second point: I can only suggest that you look at your two options, and decide which one is more important to you right now.  This isn't something I can decide for you, and neither one seems to me to be more or less important than the other.

One point I will make... are you getting subconscious boredom?  Seeing less results from UMS over time?  If you are, changing it up may be the deciding factor.

Thank you Shannon I decided to use MLS to crank out school and help with my test for my Second Degree Black Belt in Karate in a few weeks. Looking for forward to upping my brain power and study habits!

(03-07-2024, 10:52 AM)Frosted Wrote: @Lionstrength I would keep your eye on the progress of ai. It’s getting exponential and we’re gonna have public agi very soon by my predictions. There’s already massive layoffs in tech and you basically have to be a senior in the field to even have a chance at a job right now. The other jobs aren’t far off (except physical jobs like plumbers).

Thank you I do and it's actually one of my goals in the next 1-2 years once I'm done with school and get my license straight my boss wants to me to take tax courses from our company during the summer so I can do both bookkeeping and taxes for local small businesses. Then the local college has an undergraduate certificate in AI so my plan was to start that in 2025. This way I can automate data entry as much as I can. Goal is to have accounting am 4-5 hours Mon-Fri then be able to build my own business with martial arts mixed with personal training.  

I was just reviewing the listening instructions for OPH: there were instructions for listening time, and how many days on/off, but no recommended track. Is ultrasonic preferred on this one, or is there no preference?

Edit:  It is mentioned in the volume settings instructions, but not as being the recommended track.  ("...headphones or ear buds are not recommended when you're using the Ultrasonic track...)

(03-08-2024, 05:02 PM)thectexperience1 Wrote: Hey Shannon, building off your response to Josh, are you concerned about ordinary Bluetooth degrading audio quality? I was about to upgrade to a new phone that doesn't even have a wired headphone jack, and I'm big on masked format with headphones while working at my laptop. Hope you and your lady are recovering well, and many thanks in advance!

The issue with Bluetooth is that some of the codecs are lossless (good) and some are not (bad).  Unless you know for sure that the codec is lossless, then it could be effectively removing the subliminalized instructions from the ausio by compressing it in a lossy way.

Thank you for the well wishes.

(03-08-2024, 08:41 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote:

(03-08-2024, 08:08 PM)London1 Wrote: @Shannon

For E6 should I listen to the first 15 minutes or last 15 minutes of the loop (starting at 45 min mark) ?

Both ideas work.

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The first 15 minutes are fine if you don't become distracted or zone out and press stop when the time is up.

The last 15 minutes are ideal, because of the same reasons and it stops automatically.

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Apologies for answering, I'm half asleep.  I saw it was for @Shannon after I posted.

No worries, 4Kingdoms!

4Kingdoms is correct, but I'll take it a step further.  You can use ANY 15 minutes within the entire audio and get the desired results.

The easiest thing to do is set a timer for 15 minutes, and then start the track.  When the alarm goes off, you'll have a few seconds until you hit 15 minutes and you can turn it off at 15 minutes and then the alarm can be turned off. 

You can also set it to start at 45 minutes and end on it's own, but on a phone, getting exactly 45 minute mark is not always easy, and you need to be aware that some plyers will happily either start playing the next "song" at the end, or will loop the program at the end, so you have to make sure that doesn't happen.

I find that the timer method works better for me, I set a timer, give myself about 10 seconds, and then start the program.  Then I have plenty of time to shut down both in either order.

(03-09-2024, 08:28 AM)Ruffian Wrote: I was just reviewing the listening instructions for OPH: there were instructions for listening time, and how many days on/off, but no recommended track. Is ultrasonic preferred on this one, or is there no preference?

Edit:  It is mentioned in the volume settings instructions, but not as being the recommended track.  ("...headphones or ear buds are not recommended when you're using the Ultrasonic track...)

The recommended go-to track is ultrasonic, for all of my programs.  I recommend that you only try Masked if Ultrasonic is too aggressive for you or bothers your ears, and only try Hybrid if Ultrasonic and Masked do not achieve results.

@Shannon

If I listen to E6 with somebody else in the room like my wife for example is it going to be ineffective?

If so do I continue to listen for 4 more days or do I redo day 1?

(03-09-2024, 06:31 PM)London1 Wrote: @Shannon

If I listen to E6 with somebody else in the room like my wife for example is it going to be ineffective?

If so do I continue to listen for 4 more days or do I redo day 1?

If you purchased your copy, or subscribed to it, and someone else is exposed while you are using it for yourself, that will not trigger anti-piracy scripting or make it ineffective.  It's still fair use.