Is anyone currently running the ME sub? Very curious and would like to know how the run proceeds to see if it should be the next sub used. Thanks all.

Quick update regarding my situation with MIR and possible covid. I have started using MIR on Tuesday at noon and have been on it 24/7 since then. Possible exposure was Saturday/Sunday so on Friday it will be 5 to 6 days, that should be enough to detect it with an antigen test. So I'm gonna get tested and if everything's alright stop using MIR, UMSv2 awaits.

Think it will be fine because I didn't feel any different on MIR. Maybe a bit tired and marginally increased appetite, no other symptoms. So I'd wager MIR hadn't too much work to do over here.

Depression, Anger, resentment, in general irratable pissed off-ness. dont wanna be around a single soul. easily irrated stuff up, SHannon. Fear Remover 5.0 though modifed is defintely removing the fears from SubC' and it seem really sad and angry over all of this... though it "looks' like its Outisde of Me and that those people out side of me are 'doing it'
I think its a combo,however from what all I've read from your repsonse's to other users of both OFv3 and UMSv2... its that the Subc' being depressed and/or angry that its being defeated and thinks its actually going to die,as such.
dayumm.

The journey continues....

(07-07-2021, 08:45 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: Shannon for those of Us using UMSv2 do we need much a break between stages ? A day ;er two? None? that is once were done with the cycle of usage???
Diggin the fact that Stage 2 is already ,ready to  roll. I'm sticking to the instructions of a full month,however,on each stage.

No break necessary other than the days off for the ASRB2 cycle.

(07-08-2021, 08:39 AM)samba99 Wrote: Shannon, I have a personal question to ask you and with your level of experience I would want to know your attitude on it

Have you got covid vaccination? Can you please also justify your answer. If no, why not? And if yes, have you read the vaccine study reports and concluded it was something you would be interested in?

I really hope you give your thoughts on this

I will decline to answer this question.  No matter what I answer, it will do something I don't want this forum involved in, which is the battle between those who think they have the facts on the "It's a good idea" camp, and those who think they have the facts in the "It's a scam" camp.  I do not want this forum involved in that debate, this is not the place for that.  I also don't want people potentially basing their choice on my choice, when I am not the end all be all of knowledge and truth on this matter.

(07-08-2021, 10:17 AM)Johannesbrst Wrote: Shannon, I need to ask you something about love that I hope you can help me shed some light upon. I know this girl who I have been in love with sinse high-school, but at the time I was to afraid to make a move and when I did things didn't work out, possibly due to me not being mature enough. High school was 10 years ago and  it was 5 years we last met, but we met again today and even though I though I forgot the feelings I have for her, I know they have lingered on and was rescindled today. I'm more in control of my emotions, and can keep my cool around her in a new way, but still I sense that there is something there. Something in between us that I just know that it's there and I know we would have a great chance at creating something beautiful together. I now know that the only way to attract someone is to work on yourself and stay open to whatever shows up, rather than being obsessed with things as I was in the past. However, I don't know how to look at this situation. What is it so deeply inside of me that have this unwavering attraction toward everything about her and how should I deal with it? She lives in another city and have a boyfriend, but I still in some way feel (wishfully or not) that she may feel the same way to.

From my point of view, this sort of thing can result from unresolved karma.  It does not mean she will necessarily feel the same, but mirror souls frequently find each other unbelievably attractive, and that will either remain until they play out that relationship and conclude it, or it will show up once they are supposed to start such a relationship.

If she does not feel the same, then it is unlikely she is a mirror soul.  

There are of course other possible explanations.  I don't know enough to say beyond this.

(07-08-2021, 12:36 PM)CatMan Wrote: Is anyone currently running the ME sub? Very curious and would like to know how the run proceeds to see if it should be the next sub used. Thanks all.

We sold several copies last I checked.  I have had no reports of results yet.

(07-08-2021, 02:11 PM)MegaMan Wrote: Quick update regarding my situation with MIR and possible covid. I have started using MIR on Tuesday at noon and have been on it 24/7 since then. Possible exposure was Saturday/Sunday so on Friday it will be 5 to 6 days, that should be enough to detect it with an antigen test. So I'm gonna get tested and if everything's alright stop using MIR, UMSv2 awaits.

Think it will be fine because I didn't feel any different on MIR. Maybe a bit tired and marginally increased appetite, no other symptoms. So I'd wager MIR hadn't too much work to do over here.

Tired and increased appetite is a sign that MIR is doing something.  I suggest you run it for at least a total of 2 weeks, if that is the case.

@Shannon lol I wasnt going to trouble you and ask you this but im just too excited. I had a dream and written about it in my latest post which is short : https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Jake-...#pid246991

Do you think this is the sub? I woke thinking could it really be lol and if so im excited yeah!!!!

(07-08-2021, 08:53 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-08-2021, 10:17 AM)Johannesbrst Wrote: Shannon, I need to ask you something about love that I hope you can help me shed some light upon. I know this girl who I have been in love with sinse high-school, but at the time I was to afraid to make a move and when I did things didn't work out, possibly due to me not being mature enough. High school was 10 years ago and  it was 5 years we last met, but we met again today and even though I though I forgot the feelings I have for her, I know they have lingered on and was rescindled today. I'm more in control of my emotions, and can keep my cool around her in a new way, but still I sense that there is something there. Something in between us that I just know that it's there and I know we would have a great chance at creating something beautiful together. I now know that the only way to attract someone is to work on yourself and stay open to whatever shows up, rather than being obsessed with things as I was in the past. However, I don't know how to look at this situation. What is it so deeply inside of me that have this unwavering attraction toward everything about her and how should I deal with it? She lives in another city and have a boyfriend, but I still in some way feel (wishfully or not) that she may feel the same way to.

From my point of view, this sort of thing can result from unresolved karma.  It does not mean she will necessarily feel the same, but mirror souls frequently find each other unbelievably attractive, and that will either remain until they play out that relationship and conclude it, or it will show up once they are supposed to start such a relationship.

If she does not feel the same, then it is unlikely she is a mirror soul.  

There are of course other possible explanations.  I don't know enough to say beyond this.

Shannon, Enough is enough, It's time for you to make a book.. You are a very wise man & the people here love listening to your wisdom. Please spend a week or two to write a really well detailed thought out book on Love & Romance, and self improvement, And charge $400 per book. I'll buy a copy & I am sure allot of people here would. Thank you.

(07-09-2021, 06:02 AM)Raykon Wrote:

(07-08-2021, 08:53 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-08-2021, 10:17 AM)Johannesbrst Wrote: Shannon, I need to ask you something about love that I hope you can help me shed some light upon. I know this girl who I have been in love with sinse high-school, but at the time I was to afraid to make a move and when I did things didn't work out, possibly due to me not being mature enough. High school was 10 years ago and  it was 5 years we last met, but we met again today and even though I though I forgot the feelings I have for her, I know they have lingered on and was rescindled today. I'm more in control of my emotions, and can keep my cool around her in a new way, but still I sense that there is something there. Something in between us that I just know that it's there and I know we would have a great chance at creating something beautiful together. I now know that the only way to attract someone is to work on yourself and stay open to whatever shows up, rather than being obsessed with things as I was in the past. However, I don't know how to look at this situation. What is it so deeply inside of me that have this unwavering attraction toward everything about her and how should I deal with it? She lives in another city and have a boyfriend, but I still in some way feel (wishfully or not) that she may feel the same way to.

From my point of view, this sort of thing can result from unresolved karma.  It does not mean she will necessarily feel the same, but mirror souls frequently find each other unbelievably attractive, and that will either remain until they play out that relationship and conclude it, or it will show up once they are supposed to start such a relationship.

If she does not feel the same, then it is unlikely she is a mirror soul.  

There are of course other possible explanations.  I don't know enough to say beyond this.

Shannon, Enough is enough, It's time for you to make a book.. You are a very wise man & the people here love listening to your wisdom. Please spend a week or two to write a really well detailed thought out book on Love & Romance, and self improvement, And charge $400 per book. I'll buy a copy & I am sure allot of people here would. Thank you.

One or two weeks. Well thought out. Choose of the two. Writing a book is so much more than typing out on a keyboard...

(07-08-2021, 08:53 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-08-2021, 10:17 AM)Johannesbrst Wrote: Shannon, I need to ask you something about love that I hope you can help me shed some light upon. I know this girl who I have been in love with sinse high-school, but at the time I was to afraid to make a move and when I did things didn't work out, possibly due to me not being mature enough. High school was 10 years ago and  it was 5 years we last met, but we met again today and even though I though I forgot the feelings I have for her, I know they have lingered on and was rescindled today. I'm more in control of my emotions, and can keep my cool around her in a new way, but still I sense that there is something there. Something in between us that I just know that it's there and I know we would have a great chance at creating something beautiful together. I now know that the only way to attract someone is to work on yourself and stay open to whatever shows up, rather than being obsessed with things as I was in the past. However, I don't know how to look at this situation. What is it so deeply inside of me that have this unwavering attraction toward everything about her and how should I deal with it? She lives in another city and have a boyfriend, but I still in some way feel (wishfully or not) that she may feel the same way to.

From my point of view, this sort of thing can result from unresolved karma.  It does not mean she will necessarily feel the same, but mirror souls frequently find each other unbelievably attractive, and that will either remain until they play out that relationship and conclude it, or it will show up once they are supposed to start such a relationship.

If she does not feel the same, then it is unlikely she is a mirror soul.  

There are of course other possible explanations.  I don't know enough to say beyond this.

Thank you for introducing me to the topic, I was not familiar of twin flames. I got the understanding the even one of the souls may realize they are, but the other one can be "locked in" to their current life and be afraid of change or not even spiritually aware enough to understand the underlying attraction or willing to acknowledge it. Then the other one can just as you say wait and see, and perhaps help the other one to develop spiritually by offering supporting nudges and unconditional love, not expecting anything to happen but trusting it will, at some point. However I'm not fully sure of how karmic debt work in relation to this, from what I read karmic debt is something else, where you are attracted to one person to make "remedy" for bad decisions in a previous life?

(07-09-2021, 06:17 AM)Mystic Pymp Wrote:

(07-09-2021, 06:02 AM)Raykon Wrote:

(07-08-2021, 08:53 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-08-2021, 10:17 AM)Johannesbrst Wrote: Shannon, I need to ask you something about love that I hope you can help me shed some light upon. I know this girl who I have been in love with sinse high-school, but at the time I was to afraid to make a move and when I did things didn't work out, possibly due to me not being mature enough. High school was 10 years ago and  it was 5 years we last met, but we met again today and even though I though I forgot the feelings I have for her, I know they have lingered on and was rescindled today. I'm more in control of my emotions, and can keep my cool around her in a new way, but still I sense that there is something there. Something in between us that I just know that it's there and I know we would have a great chance at creating something beautiful together. I now know that the only way to attract someone is to work on yourself and stay open to whatever shows up, rather than being obsessed with things as I was in the past. However, I don't know how to look at this situation. What is it so deeply inside of me that have this unwavering attraction toward everything about her and how should I deal with it? She lives in another city and have a boyfriend, but I still in some way feel (wishfully or not) that she may feel the same way to.

From my point of view, this sort of thing can result from unresolved karma.  It does not mean she will necessarily feel the same, but mirror souls frequently find each other unbelievably attractive, and that will either remain until they play out that relationship and conclude it, or it will show up once they are supposed to start such a relationship.

If she does not feel the same, then it is unlikely she is a mirror soul.  

There are of course other possible explanations.  I don't know enough to say beyond this.

Shannon, Enough is enough, It's time for you to make a book.. You are a very wise man & the people here love listening to your wisdom. Please spend a week or two to write a really well detailed thought out book on Love & Romance, and self improvement, And charge $400 per book. I'll buy a copy & I am sure allot of people here would. Thank you.

One or two weeks. Well thought out. Choose of the two. Writing a book is so much more than typing out on a keyboard...

So true.  Even using my own method for maximum speed writing a first draft, a book worth publishing would take much more than a week or two just to write the first draft. And the first draft is just a brain dump.  Then you have to turn it into something that makes sense and is readable, which takes multiples of time longer than it took to write the first draft.  And that's to say nothing of the formatting, graphics and illustrations, copyrighting, and several other aspects.  It takes a lot longer than a week or two to write a book that's worth reading, never mind anything anyone would pay $50+ for a copy of.  

At the moment, I just don't have time or the money necessary to do that.  Instead, I have to pay my bills.  I literally take 1 day off a week at most, and work from after breakfast until I drop every day to keep up with what it now takes to get everything dealt with given my current circumstances.

I plan to write multiple books in the future, but this is not the time.  I need to have enough money to live on while I go through the 6 to 36 months it will take to publish a book.

(07-09-2021, 06:40 AM)Johannesbrst Wrote:

(07-08-2021, 08:53 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(07-08-2021, 10:17 AM)Johannesbrst Wrote: Shannon, I need to ask you something about love that I hope you can help me shed some light upon. I know this girl who I have been in love with sinse high-school, but at the time I was to afraid to make a move and when I did things didn't work out, possibly due to me not being mature enough. High school was 10 years ago and  it was 5 years we last met, but we met again today and even though I though I forgot the feelings I have for her, I know they have lingered on and was rescindled today. I'm more in control of my emotions, and can keep my cool around her in a new way, but still I sense that there is something there. Something in between us that I just know that it's there and I know we would have a great chance at creating something beautiful together. I now know that the only way to attract someone is to work on yourself and stay open to whatever shows up, rather than being obsessed with things as I was in the past. However, I don't know how to look at this situation. What is it so deeply inside of me that have this unwavering attraction toward everything about her and how should I deal with it? She lives in another city and have a boyfriend, but I still in some way feel (wishfully or not) that she may feel the same way to.

From my point of view, this sort of thing can result from unresolved karma.  It does not mean she will necessarily feel the same, but mirror souls frequently find each other unbelievably attractive, and that will either remain until they play out that relationship and conclude it, or it will show up once they are supposed to start such a relationship.

If she does not feel the same, then it is unlikely she is a mirror soul.  

There are of course other possible explanations.  I don't know enough to say beyond this.

Thank you for introducing me to the topic, I was not familiar of twin flames. I got the understanding the even one of the souls may realize they are, but the other one can be "locked in" to their current life and be afraid of change or not even spiritually aware enough to understand the underlying attraction or willing to acknowledge it. Then the other one can just as you say wait and see, and perhaps help the other one to develop spiritually by offering supporting nudges and unconditional love, not expecting anything to happen but trusting it will, at some point. However I'm not fully sure of how karmic debt work in relation to this, from what I read karmic debt is something else, where you are attracted to one person to make "remedy" for bad decisions in a previous life?

I said nothing about Twin Flames.  Those are so rare to encounter each other in a given lifetime that you may as well just presume they don't exist.  That is why I said Mirror Souls.  Those are not really actually soul mates, but their particular karmic bond holds them in attraction to each other in ways that is easy to mistake for that case.  

The subject of karma is a complex one, and most sources do not understand it well enough to try to explain it.  So don't be surprised if it takes you a lot of time to research it well enough to understand it well enough to really get the gist of what it is.  

Mirror Souls are karmically bound to be attracted to each other for the purpose of doing what Mirror Souls do: showing one another their weaknesses and flaws.  The goal is not an easy one, so to get these two together in any meaningful way the attraction has to be off the charts.  This holds them together in a relationship that starts off with bliss and ends up in one of two outcomes.  98% of the time, one party will see the flaws and work to improve themselves, eventually outgrowing the other party who is not willing to do the same, and then leaving to find someone at their current level.  

1% of the time, neither is willing to do the work to grow past the flaws their mirror soul has or shows them about themselves, so they live in misery together, hating each other and life after a while.  

1% of the time, both realize what is going on, and the work together to grow together, steadily dealing with and growing from their flaws and doing so at a relatively even pace so they are constantly happy together, working together, growing and improving as they enjoy the process (challenging through it is) and the attraction that brought them together in the first place.

Information on Mirror Souls is very scarce compared to "information" on Twin Flames, because everyone wants the icing on the cake, and nobody wants the ugly truth.  I would estimate that for every million (and it might be a much higher number) Mirror Soul relationships you encounter, you *might* encounter a real Twin Flame.  So just forget about Twin Flames.  If that person is your Twin Flame, you'll end up in a life locked relationship if it's supposed to happen.  Most times, Twin Flames don't (aren't allowed to) recognize each other if they ever encounter one another, and they almost never encounter each other in a life where they're not supposed to bond in a significant relationship because they are so distracting to one another's reason for being here in the first place otherwise.

If there is some sort of soul bond, bet your money it's a Mirror Soul bond, and be ready - if you get together - to have this person show you your flaws and weaknesses.  And get ready to hit the ground running, because in one of these relationships there are only those three options: You both try to hide from the growth and remain miserable; one of you grows while the other hides and then ends the relationship after they outgrow the stagnant one; or they both grow together, and that can indeed resemble a soul mate relationship.  But for every real Twin Flame relationship there are thousands that will be mistaken for one because the mirror souls chose to grow together, and millions that will be mistaken for one because the people involved don't really understand what a Twin Flame is, or what the relationship is like.

Sad but true.  You're almost never here to have fun.  You're almost always here to learn something.  And most people are only willing to learn the hard way, through pain and discomfort.