I'll agree with the UMS2 TID. I was experiencing it pretty strongly a few weeks ago, then the forums attention shifted to OF3 and I noticed the improvements from the TID tapering off and reversing somewhat

(04-30-2021, 11:53 AM)Rossignol17 Wrote:

(04-26-2021, 05:56 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(04-24-2021, 02:20 PM)Rossignol17 Wrote:

(04-24-2021, 02:08 PM)fab10 Wrote: Hey @Rossignol17 , give it some time and maybe drink one or two more cups. In my case the caffeine effect came back in a few days (I also rely on caffeine to function, especially in the morning.) If the models told Shannon that the chemical override module improves the overall effect of the sub, chances  you’d throw out the baby with the bath water if that module is taken out. YMMV but I recommend that you give it a chance.

Hi Fab10 and thanks for your reply.  I have already decided to go back on v3 and I am currently listening to it.  Yes, it is 5 loops at an hour each but it is worth the extra listening time.  I am looking for speakers or studio monitors to set up in my bedroom so I can listen while I sleep.  I have a single speaker that I can plug into my mp3 player but I would like to try a set.......one on each side of the bed. I don't really like sleeping with headphones or earbuds. Any suggestions ? I am not sure how to set those up to play from an mp3 player but I am sure there is a way to do it. I don't like or use Bluetooth so I'm looking for something wired.  I prefer no degradation of the audio file.

Did you know that USLM v3 and v4.2 have the very same state shift override script in them?

If so, then why would you recommend I go back to USLM v3 if I DIDN'T want the state shifting effect ?  Is it the CHEMICAL state shifting effect or something different ? And I am not really clear on it's effectiveness if you can override the chemical override state shifting module with extra (in my case) caffeine.  Why would it be in there if it is "supposedly" so easy to override it ? I am confused about this.

Because you were self admittedly getting better results from v3.  I wanted you to consider what it says that that is the case, whether it be about your response to the script, or the power of later generations of subliminals.  The module is identical in both versions, has not been changed for a long time.  The ability to override the effects where they make themselves known is based on the limits of what the subconscious can do about a chemical state shift.  I put this module in because it improves the effectiveness of the program for achieving the program goals.  If you choose to override that - that is on you.

Quote:Yes, I understand that the DRS is not the same as the chemical state shifting module, but is the state shifting module necessary for the DRS to work ?

Not necessary, no.  However, the state shift override makes everything work significantly better for the program user.  

Quote:From my start of using v3, I have never felt really sluggish on it, and I have used it while both caffeinated and non-caffeinated. I would like to try v4.2 again, but I always go back to the evidence that I have had my BEST results with v3.  Maybe I will stay on v3 (that I started again a week ago) until I reach my 1 goal I have set, take a break and try v4.2 for a new goal or try something new. You always have something tempting to offer.

It may be the fact that the skeleton script and build methods used in v4.2 are significantly more powerful, and thus cause you to notice the difference where you did not; it may be some sort of resistance to something; it may be something else, or some combination of these things.

(04-30-2021, 12:08 PM)London1 Wrote: I bought of v2 in Jan. Am I eligible for a free upgrade to v3?

If your purchase date is 30 days or less from the date the next version is published, you are.  It would seem, then, that you are not.

(04-30-2021, 12:46 PM)TheGreatAttractor Wrote:

(04-30-2021, 11:15 AM)Shannon Wrote: I'm not planning on returning the prices to the levels they should be at this time.  Right now I am focused on other things.  But each program that is 5.75.xG will be going up in price to what it should have been all along, were it not for the pandemic.  Right now everything is at the prices that were set for 5.5G.  The idea is to wait a bit until things get better economically and financially.  It will not happen right away, but it is coming.  I'll worry about exactly when after I have finished a few of the programs I'm currently working on.  Then I'll have time to find the right time to end the price deflation.

Hi @Shannon

Once you figure out that time (i.e price raise on 5.75G) - you will announce it ahead of time?

But of course.

It may be the fact that the skeleton script and build methods used in v4.2 are significantly more powerful, and thus cause you to notice the difference where you did not; it may be some sort of resistance to something; it may be something else, or some combination of these things.


Interesting answer Shannon. It gives me some things to think about. Maybe I actually like and respond better to a gentler approach ? After my run with v3 again, or if I attain my goal before the end of the 3 month cycle, I am going to run something with the more powerful tech.

Hi @Shannon, did you end up finishing the modelling/implementation for all of the ideas, today? Wondering about how the program is coming along. Just excited to hear about all of those ideas. Even one of those could blow the doors open for me once and for all.

Hope things are going well!

Also Shannon, in keeping with the theory that I like the "gentler" approach better in subliminals, would that indicate that the masked format would be better for me ? I have been re-reading my past journals and it seems like I always complained about hybrid format and seemed to do better with masked. I even got vertigo from hybrid in the past, that went away when I switched back to masked. I don't have any vertigo now, but I am wondering if I would respond better to the masked format ?

(04-30-2021, 03:40 PM)CatMan Wrote: Hi @Shannon, did you end up finishing the modelling/implementation for all of the ideas, today? Wondering about how the program is coming along. Just excited to hear about all of those ideas. Even one of those could blow the doors open for me once and for all.

Hope things are going well!

There are 10 ideas implemented, and the 11th (by far the most complex and challenging to script) is about 60% finished.  After that I need to run though the remaining ideas one more time to verify that they are to be excluded (and if not, build them out) and then I begin the process of configuring the various parts of the script for the Platinum Lake build method.  Once that is finished, I can begin the actual build.

(04-30-2021, 04:22 PM)Rossignol17 Wrote: Also Shannon, in keeping with the theory that I like the "gentler" approach better in subliminals, would that indicate that the masked format would be better for me ?  I have been re-reading my past journals and it seems like I always complained about hybrid format and seemed to do better with masked. I even got vertigo from hybrid in the past, that went away when I switched back to masked. I don't have any vertigo now, but I am wondering if I would respond better to the masked format ?

It would seem to suggest that masked format would be the best choice for you.  Especially reacting to Hybrid format with vertigo.

(04-30-2021, 07:15 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(04-30-2021, 04:22 PM)Rossignol17 Wrote: Also Shannon, in keeping with the theory that I like the "gentler" approach better in subliminals, would that indicate that the masked format would be better for me ?  I have been re-reading my past journals and it seems like I always complained about hybrid format and seemed to do better with masked. I even got vertigo from hybrid in the past, that went away when I switched back to masked. I don't have any vertigo now, but I am wondering if I would respond better to the masked format ?

It would seem to suggest that masked format would be the best choice for you.  Especially reacting to Hybrid format with vertigo.

Thank you for giving us the 3 different formats to choose from. I am going back to masked and I will report if anything changes. I always use the FLAC audio with wired speakers, headphones, or earbuds.

(04-30-2021, 07:13 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(04-30-2021, 03:40 PM)CatMan Wrote: Hi @Shannon, did you end up finishing the modelling/implementation for all of the ideas, today? Wondering about how the program is coming along. Just excited to hear about all of those ideas. Even one of those could blow the doors open for me once and for all.

Hope things are going well!

There are 10 ideas implemented, and the 11th (by far the most complex and challenging to script) is about 60% finished.  After that I need to run though the remaining ideas one more time to verify that they are to be excluded (and if not, build them out) and then I begin the process of configuring the various parts of the script for the Platinum Lake build method.  Once that is finished, I can begin the actual build.

Remarkable, so there may be more ideas implemented if they can show promise. Very cool and encouraging.

Sounds like things are really humming along then. That's fantastic to hear!

(04-30-2021, 11:11 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(04-29-2021, 11:21 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: Shannon,
I wanted  let you know that I am getting some serious TID's from UMSv2....something very interesting happened this very early morning,with and in  a special part of my life, in relation to UMSv2

These programs have been multi-dimensional for quite some time, with the new Tech's/Spec's/Checks(Ha!)..... 5.75.7 it is REALLY multi-dimensional, now, Man. wow!!

I tell ya one thing ,when you finally finish this puppy up and get to using it, YOU ARE going to absolutely  love this thang !! and might I add, dig the living shit out of it ,too. Just wait and watch..... you'll  see! Ha.

Sparkle in the eye, wry knowing smile..... High,Ho, SIlver and da way we go!!

I'm glad to hear that.  The amount of time and effort that it's requiring is staggering for the end result.  It better be good!

 Ohhhh  It will be no doubt it WILL Be,Shannon.... this morning I had this exeperience where, this energy,this awareness was just  full throttle in my solar plexus,mind,and heart of an Indominable  spirit of winning,. I Must win,it has to be, It WILL be ,it already is...all of this and more ALL at once....being a winner. TID of UMSv2!
 This is the second day in a row where some really clear and strong TID stuff,has come thru from UMSv2 wondering if I outta start a journal  on it???

(05-01-2021, 02:16 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote:

(04-30-2021, 11:11 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(04-29-2021, 11:21 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: Shannon,
I wanted  let you know that I am getting some serious TID's from UMSv2....something very interesting happened this very early morning,with and in  a special part of my life, in relation to UMSv2

These programs have been multi-dimensional for quite some time, with the new Tech's/Spec's/Checks(Ha!)..... 5.75.7 it is REALLY multi-dimensional, now, Man. wow!!

I tell ya one thing ,when you finally finish this puppy up and get to using it, YOU ARE going to absolutely  love this thang !! and might I add, dig the living shit out of it ,too. Just wait and watch..... you'll  see! Ha.

Sparkle in the eye, wry knowing smile..... High,Ho, SIlver and da way we go!!

I'm glad to hear that.  The amount of time and effort that it's requiring is staggering for the end result.  It better be good!

 Ohhhh  It will be no doubt it WILL Be,Shannon.... this morning I had this exeperience where, this energy,this awareness was just  full throttle in my solar plexus,mind,and heart of an Indominable  spirit of winning,. I Must win,it has to be, It WILL be ,it already is...all of this and more ALL at once....being a winner. TID of UMSv2!
 This is the second day in a row where some really clear and strong TID stuff,has come thru from UMSv2 wondering if I outta start a journal  on it???

Can't hurt.

(04-30-2021, 08:04 PM)CatMan Wrote:

(04-30-2021, 07:13 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(04-30-2021, 03:40 PM)CatMan Wrote: Hi @Shannon, did you end up finishing the modelling/implementation for all of the ideas, today? Wondering about how the program is coming along. Just excited to hear about all of those ideas. Even one of those could blow the doors open for me once and for all.

Hope things are going well!

There are 10 ideas implemented, and the 11th (by far the most complex and challenging to script) is about 60% finished.  After that I need to run though the remaining ideas one more time to verify that they are to be excluded (and if not, build them out) and then I begin the process of configuring the various parts of the script for the Platinum Lake build method.  Once that is finished, I can begin the actual build.

Remarkable, so there may be more ideas implemented if they can show promise. Very cool and encouraging.

Sounds like things are really humming along then. That's fantastic to hear!

When I am working with script sections that have a high re-usability value, I can change smaller parts of the whole script statement instead of re-building the whole statement from scratch each time, and achieve equal if not better results with a much smaller amount of time required.  If I had to build all 11 of these statements from scratch I would need 2-3 days each.  Instead, I can re-use the beginning and the end of each statement, and only have to rebuild the middle part which actually tells the rest what to do, and I can finish 2-3 statements a day.  Since each of these ideas can be expressed neatly in 1, or in rare occasions 2, statements, it is rapid work.

That is how and why we are going so fast on this particular endeavor.