I've noticed that some guys take the piss out of girls for acting sexy (taking hot photos, even thinking they're hot), like scoffing and sniggering at them. Then they wonder why its so hard to get girls. Like wtf, your laughing at them for being themselves and then wondering why they dont like you?

shannon, for what it's worth and for your informational purposes....

I have been running a mind program for 3 months. Thursday night, I went to put on the program, but instead of looping the same track repeatedly, it mixed one loop of dmsi 3.2 in it. I didn't catch it cuz dmsi was the second track to play and i must have already been asleep by that time.

But the attraction results have been beyond mind boggling. I kept asking myself "wtf am i doing now that's different than last week, and why are women all of a sudden nonstop hitting me up!? including married women?!?!?"

upon reflecting back on last week, i can safely say it's due to my accidental night of dmsi on a 1:1 ratio. 1 hr program A, 1 hr dmsi.

Yesterday, day 4 of the "bloom", i had this girl exhibiting pure fallout as she messaged me voice recordings of her talking/asking questions while i was at work... and she was doing that for HOURS. I have pages and pages of voice notes from her.

it all makes sense now. it's cuz of dmsi lol

(10-02-2018, 11:05 AM)kingpill Wrote: I've noticed that some guys take the piss out of girls for acting sexy (taking hot photos, even thinking they're hot), like scoffing and sniggering at them. Then they wonder why its so hard to get girls. Like wtf, your laughing at them for being themselves and then wondering why they dont like you?

Not to mention punishing good behavior. Who in their right mind doesn't want girls to be more sexual?

(10-02-2018, 06:01 AM)RTBoss Wrote: While I'm not worried about getting manipulated into having more kids, my concern is the women we're disqualifying b/c they have no interest in having kids, ever, with anyone. A lot of women are just looking to have a good time. At the least, adding in "fun" instead of going full-court-press on "baby rabies" seems like the better route to me.

I'm for whatever Shannon deems best after modeling the options.

I was under the impression the baby rabies thing was a side-effect, not the GOAL of DMSI. It shouldn't hinder women who want only fun (in fact, I hope not!). Shannon says he'll try to find the right combo tho so I'm hopeful.

(10-02-2018, 11:54 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Not to mention punishing good behavior. Who in their right mind doesn't want girls to be more sexual?

Exactly, I think its because they subconsciously know that when a girl is 'sexual', they won't be getting attention like they do when shes being 'social'.

Its basically a form of subconsciously shaming them so that they still have a chance. lol

(10-02-2018, 12:04 PM)kingpill Wrote:

(10-02-2018, 11:54 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Not to mention punishing good behavior. Who in their right mind doesn't want girls to be more sexual?

Exactly, I think its because they subconsciously know that when a girl is 'sexual', they won't be getting attention like they do when shes being 'social'.

Its basically a form of subconsciously shaming them so that they still have a chance. lol

Which stems from... fear [of losing/not having the girl]

(10-02-2018, 11:05 AM)kingpill Wrote: I've noticed that some guys take the piss out of girls for acting sexy (taking hot photos, even thinking they're hot), like scoffing and sniggering at them. Then they wonder why its so hard to get girls. Like wtf, your laughing at them for being themselves and then wondering why they dont like you?

Yeah man, give it to them for trying.

(10-02-2018, 12:16 PM)Fluffy Wrote:

(10-02-2018, 11:05 AM)kingpill Wrote: I've noticed that some guys take the piss out of girls for acting sexy (taking hot photos, even thinking they're hot), like scoffing and sniggering at them. Then they wonder why its so hard to get girls. Like wtf, your laughing at them for being themselves and then wondering why they dont like you?

Yeah man, give it to them for trying.

Lol, bet the guy who made this didn't bang any of them.

Plus, given the right lighting angles etc, it wont be hard for the girl in the 2nd picture to look nearly as hot as the first one

Shannon,

I'm seeking your imput, as I'm going through some rough stuff on E2, legitimately. It's surfacing old insecurities in me, and I've felt unconfident around male coworkers today.

I'm running E2 until Halloween, and I've had my mind on my next sub lately. I've been sabotaging some success via heavy caffeine consumption, and I've been tempted lately to play MLS since it stimulates my mind and body both.

In the middle of emotional pains I've felt, I lean heavily towards doing UD again, even knowing it may be quiet the first week or so. But me trying to lie to myself (or denial) has escalated recently, and the thing I value about UD is it knowing exactly where to focus. For example, I have never been labelled ADD, but under extreme stress, I'm looking everywhere except NOW. I've not been grounded peacefully lately. My old survival strategies have been rising to the surface, mostly where I feel like a scared child around unavailable adults. (That's definitely being worked on by E2)

I've considered MLS too since it has a detox element, but MLS is not UD. You've pointed this out with other newer subs.

And for its sheer power and the most recent developments, I've been wondering about DMSI. I do have ugly associations with sex, all taken from my childhood. I still feel very inadequate and inept in regards to sex with women. Well.....not sex really--it's the relating I avoid.

But my main goal is mental detoxing of old beliefs I have towards myself and other people. I love the polymorphic scripting where it finds my hidden needs and heals them. What I experienced my first UD run I did not see coming. It touched my core.

I may have opened too much to discuss in this post, but I'm asking "which sub would you recommend I use after E2?"

Thank you.

(10-02-2018, 01:07 PM)findingme Wrote: ...
And for its sheer power and the most recent developments, I've been wondering about DMSI. I do have ugly associations with sex, all taken from my childhood. I still feel very inadequate and inept in regards to sex with women. Well.....not sex really--it's the relating I avoid.

But my main goal is mental detoxing of old beliefs I have towards myself and other people. I love the polymorphic scripting where it finds my hidden needs and heals them. What I experienced my first UD run I did not see coming. It touched my core.

Seems like you've narrowed the choices down, yourself.

If it were me, I'd go with the newest, most powerful healing available - even though it's geared toward achieving being seduced by the sex you are attracted to - DMSI 3.3. Give it 3 months after your E2 run, and then if you want to cycle back to UD or E2, do so.

I have a feeling DMSI 3.3 is going to turn some heads...360. (Choo-choo! That's the sound of the man / workin' on the train The Hype-Train!)

RT, you are one of the few DMSI long-timers since you've done numerous versions of it.

If a reply is too long for this thread, could you point me to your past postings where you realized some major internal changes while using DMSI? I'm using Shannon's subs to change me, and I love reading other's honest experiences. Thanks for responding

And RT, I do own 3.2. I used it for 2 months this spring. It may have touched on some deep fears I had, and I pulled off voluntarily. I'm not against 3.2. I did find it stressful for me, and the reasons I've never searched for. I can only cite Shannon's most common reason: fear.

Which makes me wonder about 3.3 with its fear removal (?) modules. Having less fear on ANY day is a beautiful thing to experience.

@Shannon I have 2 main questions. Even though its probably going to be while since you work on LTU, I did want to know if you were "contemplating" maybe putting some general statements to improve mental function? (Like MLS but more broad than really specific). If not you had mentioned something about a polymorphic function that would help you tune up any area of your life that you had to tune up at the time. Would this by itself in "theory" help you if at that time in your life you had to improve on learning say a new language, mathematics, coding, etc? If you haven't really decided yet or don't know that's understandable as well since that's probably quite a few weeks away from now when you might possibly start working on it.

Also, hows the testing for the Fear modules going? Are you starting to get an idea of how they work and what they are doing? Are things looking promising for the module additions? Just curious to see if this might actually be the cure to the fear based resistance we have been fighting this entire time.

(10-02-2018, 01:07 PM)findingme Wrote: Shannon,

I'm seeking your imput, as I'm going through some rough stuff on E2, legitimately. It's surfacing old insecurities in me, and I've felt unconfident around male coworkers today.

I'm running E2 until Halloween, and I've had my mind on my next sub lately. I've been sabotaging some success via heavy caffeine consumption, and I've been tempted lately to play MLS since it stimulates my mind and body both.

In the middle of emotional pains I've felt, I lean heavily towards doing UD again, even knowing it may be quiet the first week or so. But me trying to lie to myself (or denial) has escalated recently, and the thing I value about UD is it knowing exactly where to focus. For example, I have never been labelled ADD, but under extreme stress, I'm looking everywhere except NOW. I've not been grounded peacefully lately. My old survival strategies have been rising to the surface, mostly where I feel like a scared child around unavailable adults. (That's definitely being worked on by E2)

I've considered MLS too since it has a detox element, but MLS is not UD. You've pointed this out with other newer subs.

And for its sheer power and the most recent developments, I've been wondering about DMSI. I do have ugly associations with sex, all taken from my childhood. I still feel very inadequate and inept in regards to sex with women. Well.....not sex really--it's the relating I avoid.

But my main goal is mental detoxing of old beliefs I have towards myself and other people. I love the polymorphic scripting where it finds my hidden needs and heals them. What I experienced my first UD run I did not see coming. It touched my core.

I may have opened too much to discuss in this post, but I'm asking "which sub would you recommend I use after E2?"

Thank you.

It sounds like you're trying to run away from E2 because of what it's bringing up and working on, if that's happening it's actually most likely best to stay on E2

Others might disagree, but from your past posts I feel E2s gentleness and 'go at your own pace' is more suited for you than a forced march like DMSI.

Wow. I've seen the exact same thing Ben. Other subs, for me, are nothing other than distractions right now. E2 is hitting old stuff in me regularly. Thank you.

And yes, the forced march was actually why I pulled off DMSI too.