(08-05-2018, 10:03 AM)DarkPlouf Wrote: @"Mr. Anderson" I'm fascinated by your sensitivity to DMSI's aura and the experience you had with it so far. I wonder, did you ever try to "manually" recharge your energy to see if the sniper fire again?
By manually recharging energy I mean doing some meditation, breathing exercises or energy control stuff.
It'd be interesting to see if and how any conscious effort toward restoring energy can definitely help.
If you get a positive outcome from that experience that'd give one more thing a DMSI user can consciously do to help with the program.

With your experience so far I'm wondering if most people hat failed with DMSI, for some reason didn't have enough energy to power the program. As from what you'have experienced, more energy => moar attraction, moar effect. Depleted energy => less or close to no effects. Even though you were still executing.
If that's true then success with DMSI not only depends on how much you execute the script but on your energy levels.
I think many have the idea that execution is a magic pill but your experience may suggest that you may still execute but "miss" a little something for the program to work as intended.

Point #1: Nothing else matters if you're not executing. Partial execution is only partial.
Point #2: We can't know how much of his experience is self sabotage and how much is weaknesses in the script (such as current energy sourcing being insufficient). It is quite possible that his lack of energy comes from his resistant subconscious using up a lot of energy fighting the execution of the program, and if he wasn't resisting, that energy would be more than enough to execute DMSI.

Hey Shannon, will luck magnifier be in DMSI 3.3?

(08-05-2018, 11:05 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 06:50 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 05:04 AM)RTBoss Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 02:30 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: - In regard to these modules like nofap, anti-paysex you said that they will only run as long the script is running in your head. But what if the script becomes somewhat permanent, wouldn't it mean that these modules would also stay forever in your head? I am simply asking because I am almost scared to death, that these modules could stay forever in your head, the thought really creates an insane fear.

The loopholes Shannon is closing are closed for the express purpose of preventing you from using those loopholes as reasons to not execute, or escape. Your free will remains intact. You aren't being "forced" to not masturbate or pay for the company of a prostitute. If you are using masturbation or prostitutes to get out of executing DMSI, it's THAT which Shannon is closing off.

If you're happily executing DMSI, and you choose to burp your worm for reasons other than escaping DMSI - no problem.

Put your fears to rest, my friend - Shannon's not removing your free will to choose.

I know what you are trying to say, and I would love to put my fear aside - and in this case I would probably already execute DMSI too - but the amount of fears created by the thought that I could never again masturbate, watch porn or pay for sex if I choose to is really, really insane. I somehow feel like it's more fear than to the end goal of DMSI. So I really need something that ensures that and that makes me be able to believe this. But I also have the impression that Shannon comes up with a more clever idea to close the loopholes than what's already in.

How about this.

Everything he said is correct.

And why are you so afraid of not being able to use masturbation or paying for sex as an escape? Is it because maybe you might actually have to... I dunno... achieve the goals of DMSI instead?

Those modules are in place to prevent using them as an escape from execution. You didn't pay for this program to be able to escape and fail to get the goal results.

Actually, I am not even that much afraid of not being able to masturbate or pay for sex when running DMSI. That was the case but that passed somehow. I am afraid that I will never again be able to do it when I stop DMSI and run something else at some point. THAT is the fear I actually have. My impression until now is that my SC is seeing the anti-fap/-paysex module as a welcome addition to make me stop the program, because it does something what I don't want. And since my first AM6 run I never again masturbated excessively. So it wasn't an issue until 3.2, I even enjoy being sexually loaded as far it's not an overload. Interesting note here maybe, where the anti-fap module causes the most resistance on second place is the anti-eating-disorder module which caused also a lot discomfort, but this seem to pass a bit.

(08-05-2018, 12:15 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Hey Shannon, will luck magnifier be in DMSI 3.3?

Id like to know about UM/OP that was just released, or if it falls under the Optimus Engine...?

I'm also curious if being totally devoted to building a business and achieving real freedom (no employer, total freedom to do/go anywhere, do what I want) is resistance or not?

(08-05-2018, 11:11 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 10:03 AM)DarkPlouf Wrote: @"Mr. Anderson" I'm fascinated by your sensitivity to DMSI's aura and the experience you had with it so far. I wonder, did you ever try to "manually" recharge your energy to see if the sniper fire again?
By manually recharging energy I mean doing some meditation, breathing exercises or energy control stuff.
It'd be interesting to see if and how any conscious effort toward restoring energy can definitely help.
If you get a positive outcome from that experience that'd give one more thing a DMSI user can consciously do to help with the program.

With your experience so far I'm wondering if most people hat failed with DMSI, for some reason didn't have enough energy to power the program. As from what you'have experienced, more energy => moar attraction, moar effect. Depleted energy => less or close to no effects. Even though you were still executing.
If that's true then success with DMSI not only depends on how much you execute the script but on your energy levels.
I think many have the idea that execution is a magic pill but your experience may suggest that you may still execute but "miss" a little something for the program to work as intended.

Point #1: Nothing else matters if you're not executing. Partial execution is only partial.
Point #2: We can't know how much of his experience is self sabotage and how much is weaknesses in the script (such as current energy sourcing being insufficient). It is quite possible that his lack of energy comes from his resistant subconscious using up a lot of energy fighting the execution of the program, and if he wasn't resisting, that energy would be more than enough to execute DMSI.

I have recently had the thought, that my SC tried to overload me to make me stop, so I was running at maximum tolerance levels. Maybe even above. The thing is - I forgot before - I feel like 3.2 messed something up with my energy system, I often experience brain fog and dizziness. My doctor said I am fine. Maybe even an attempt to destroy my energy system to not being able to reach the goal, I don't know. However, I wanted to ask if you could put something in 3.3 that can fix the energy system if damaged.

Quote:Technically Jake won't be "the owner" for that month.

We know for sure that Jake giving the sub to his brother is perfectly fine. The question is can his brother give it back to him.

That would ruin the concept of 'fair value'. Like "I can just keep passing it around to everyone and getting them to delete my copies, so 20 people can have it" goes against that.

Quote:I am going to point out to you that if I was to make a bet that NOBODY else on this forum would even THINK of trying to get into a relationship with, or have sex with, a woman in that condition. Wouldn't even have to think about it for a split second.

Definately. I thought it was crazy that you were having thoughts of hanging out with her for 'experience'. That will just take you further away from your goal, harm your self respect and such. Making yourself hang out with a woman you can't sleep with in the hopes of 'something' isn't a winning proposition for either of you.

Quote:LOL...irrelevant to anything in this thread. But let's be honest, is this the first time irrelevant nonsense infected this thread? Lmao.

You know you're executing a program when you end up on the testimonials thread Tongue. Not once, but TWICE wow...I think this is my first time getting on there ever, haha.

Hahaha I seen Shannon posted something too but it didn't click.

(08-05-2018, 12:22 PM)Leo1990 Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 12:15 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Hey Shannon, will luck magnifier be in DMSI 3.3?

Id like to know about UM/OP that was just released, or if it falls under the Optimus Engine...?

I'm also curious if being totally devoted to building a business and achieving real freedom (no employer, total freedom to do/go anywhere, do what I want) is resistance or not?

Why would it be resistance? Sounds to me like execution, more like. The more freedom you have... the more freedom you have!

I, for one, have never been "gainfully employed" a single day of my life, lol.

(08-05-2018, 11:09 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 08:58 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote: Shannon,

will Overcome erectile dysfunction/overcome premature ejaculation be updated to 5.5g? If so will there be a discount for those that bought them and who couldn't get results from them?

They will be updated eventually. When they are upgraded, there will be a discount if you did not get results from the previous version. I don't know if they will be upgraded in 5.5G or 6G yet.

(08-05-2018, 05:27 AM)RTBoss Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 02:58 AM)Williamx25 Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 02:08 AM)mat422 Wrote: If you can, set up speakers. I pretty much went through the same thing with sleephones. Either they would fall off or I was subconsciously taking them off. When I switched to speakers I started getting way more consistent progress. It's doable with one or two loops, but when you hit the higher loops it's very hard to keep those on your ears through the night.

But the speakers are like the weakest audio source to use right? You have to put in earbuds/ something for your left and right ear, the program is designed to specifically work your left ear with sounds and your right ear.

I don’t know what the effects will be when using speakers, I think alot less.
I’m already having trouble with listening much hours, I think it’s a hassle. I thought 1 hour of listening would be good, now you need to actually listen the whole day in order to make some progress.

I'll let you in on something that not a lot of people on the forum seem to have noticed. Shannon - the Maestro Himself - uses the MONO speaker on his mobile phone to listen to subs. No fancy headphones or speakers. If it's good enough for him, it should be good enough for the rest of us.

To reiterate, you don't need the "perfect" listening setup. If there's a 1-3% drop in "effectiveness," it's not enough to be significant when it comes to assimilating and executing the script of the subliminal. You'll be fine.

I've read through the FAQ and I really wonder why @Shannon uses a mono speaker...

This is from the FAQ: ''Headphones maximize the stereo separation, and therefore produce the best results; stereo speakers are next best, and work better if you can use them facing one another with your head between them, similar to headphones. Mono speakers, as found on many cell phones, are serviceable, but not the best way to play subliminals.''

and this: ''You need stereo speakers and headphones for best results with our subliminals. Part of the build process introduces three dimensional audio, which is designed to force both hemispheres of your brain to work together as a single whole to process the subliminal and thus gives much better results.

If you listen to one of my subliminals in mono, therefore, you will only be getting about half the information. Because it is only half the information, and suddenly your brain is no longer being forced to work as a whole, you won’t even get half the impact that you would from using stereo.

if there is ANY other choice, DO NOT USE MONO! If you ever ask me about a speaker and I suggest it, but it is a mono speaker, you know I did not see or know that. I will never suggest a mono appliance if I know it is mono.''

So clearly Mono speakers are the worst option which gives you the worst results... Why does @Shannon listen on his mobile mono speakers then?

And I found this: ''I have recently realized that a lot of people are using the subliminals in a way I did not expect, which is, they are trying to use it through their cell phone’s built in speakers.

This does not work unless your cell phone has stereo capable speakers, and even then, it’s not a good idea. Here’s why.

The majority of my subliminals use a method called Stereo-Spatial Effects (SSE) which is intended to cause both brain hemispheres to work together to decode the subliminal audio and make sense of it. The end result, as it turns out, is a greater than 100% response because of the effect of the resultant hemispheric synergy.

When you use a subliminal that uses SSE technology and play it through a mono speaker, which nearly all cell phone speakers are, you are only playing one of the two stereo channels. This kills the SSE.

The result is that you are now hearing bits and pieces of the subliminal script, and while you can and will still get results, the impact is about 45% of what it would be if you were using both channels through a stereo speaker or headphones.

The only programs that do not use SSE are those that are Type A (the PSE Version 2.0 programs with script which are Type A/B hybrids do not, but that will change when Version 3.0 is released) and those programs that are designed specifically for one gender only, and therefore only use one gender of voice. Those programs use a different method to take the place of SSE, which makes them usable on mono speakers at full effect.

This means you can use PSE on cell phones, and programs like Alpha Male, Alpha Female, and other gender specific programs.

However.

That said… why would you ever use anything but PSE on a cell phone without headphones anyway? You don’t want to affect everyone around you, you want to affect yourself only.''

Maybe I don't understand things correctly, because English is not my native language, however I woul like to have a explanation from Shannon himself on why he uses a mono speaker. And if it really matters at all.

(08-05-2018, 07:41 PM)Williamx25 Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 11:09 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 08:58 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote: Shannon,

will Overcome erectile dysfunction/overcome premature ejaculation be updated to 5.5g? If so will there be a discount for those that bought them and who couldn't get results from them?

They will be updated eventually. When they are upgraded, there will be a discount if you did not get results from the previous version. I don't know if they will be upgraded in 5.5G or 6G yet.

(08-05-2018, 05:27 AM)RTBoss Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 02:58 AM)Williamx25 Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 02:08 AM)mat422 Wrote: If you can, set up speakers. I pretty much went through the same thing with sleephones. Either they would fall off or I was subconsciously taking them off. When I switched to speakers I started getting way more consistent progress. It's doable with one or two loops, but when you hit the higher loops it's very hard to keep those on your ears through the night.

But the speakers are like the weakest audio source to use right? You have to put in earbuds/ something for your left and right ear, the program is designed to specifically work your left ear with sounds and your right ear.

I don’t know what the effects will be when using speakers, I think alot less.
I’m already having trouble with listening much hours, I think it’s a hassle. I thought 1 hour of listening would be good, now you need to actually listen the whole day in order to make some progress.

I'll let you in on something that not a lot of people on the forum seem to have noticed. Shannon - the Maestro Himself - uses the MONO speaker on his mobile phone to listen to subs. No fancy headphones or speakers. If it's good enough for him, it should be good enough for the rest of us.

To reiterate, you don't need the "perfect" listening setup. If there's a 1-3% drop in "effectiveness," it's not enough to be significant when it comes to assimilating and executing the script of the subliminal. You'll be fine.

I've read through the FAQ and I really wonder why @Shannon uses a mono speaker...

This is from the FAQ: ''Headphones maximize the stereo separation, and therefore produce the best results; stereo speakers are next best, and work better if you can use them facing one another with your head between them, similar to headphones. Mono speakers, as found on many cell phones, are serviceable, but not the best way to play subliminals.''

and this: ''You need stereo speakers and headphones for best results with our subliminals. Part of the build process introduces three dimensional audio, which is designed to force both hemispheres of your brain to work together as a single whole to process the subliminal and thus gives much better results.

If you listen to one of my subliminals in mono, therefore, you will only be getting about half the information. Because it is only half the information, and suddenly your brain is no longer being forced to work as a whole, you won’t even get half the impact that you would from using stereo.

if there is ANY other choice, DO NOT USE MONO! If you ever ask me about a speaker and I suggest it, but it is a mono speaker, you know I did not see or know that. I will never suggest a mono appliance if I know it is mono.''

So clearly Mono speakers are the worst option which gives you the worst results... Why does @Shannon listen on his mobile mono speakers then?

And I found this

Ease of use, probably. And if it works, then it works. Besides, modern phones have pretty badass speakers and decent digital audio software in them. Back in the day, they did not.

Headphones and stereo speakers improve the efficiency of the input. Mono means less effectiveness, but if it works for a given person, then all the power to them.

(08-05-2018, 07:41 PM)Williamx25 Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 11:09 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 08:58 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote: Shannon,

will Overcome erectile dysfunction/overcome premature ejaculation be updated to 5.5g? If so will there be a discount for those that bought them and who couldn't get results from them?

They will be updated eventually. When they are upgraded, there will be a discount if you did not get results from the previous version. I don't know if they will be upgraded in 5.5G or 6G yet.

(08-05-2018, 05:27 AM)RTBoss Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 02:58 AM)Williamx25 Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 02:08 AM)mat422 Wrote: If you can, set up speakers. I pretty much went through the same thing with sleephones. Either they would fall off or I was subconsciously taking them off. When I switched to speakers I started getting way more consistent progress. It's doable with one or two loops, but when you hit the higher loops it's very hard to keep those on your ears through the night.

But the speakers are like the weakest audio source to use right? You have to put in earbuds/ something for your left and right ear, the program is designed to specifically work your left ear with sounds and your right ear.

I don’t know what the effects will be when using speakers, I think alot less.
I’m already having trouble with listening much hours, I think it’s a hassle. I thought 1 hour of listening would be good, now you need to actually listen the whole day in order to make some progress.

I'll let you in on something that not a lot of people on the forum seem to have noticed. Shannon - the Maestro Himself - uses the MONO speaker on his mobile phone to listen to subs. No fancy headphones or speakers. If it's good enough for him, it should be good enough for the rest of us.

To reiterate, you don't need the "perfect" listening setup. If there's a 1-3% drop in "effectiveness," it's not enough to be significant when it comes to assimilating and executing the script of the subliminal. You'll be fine.

I've read through the FAQ and I really wonder why @Shannon uses a mono speaker...

This is from the FAQ: ''Headphones maximize the stereo separation, and therefore produce the best results; stereo speakers are next best, and work better if you can use them facing one another with your head between them, similar to headphones. Mono speakers, as found on many cell phones, are serviceable, but not the best way to play subliminals.''

and this: ''You need stereo speakers and headphones for best results with our subliminals. Part of the build process introduces three dimensional audio, which is designed to force both hemispheres of your brain to work together as a single whole to process the subliminal and thus gives much better results.

If you listen to one of my subliminals in mono, therefore, you will only be getting about half the information. Because it is only half the information, and suddenly your brain is no longer being forced to work as a whole, you won’t even get half the impact that you would from using stereo.

if there is ANY other choice, DO NOT USE MONO! If you ever ask me about a speaker and I suggest it, but it is a mono speaker, you know I did not see or know that. I will never suggest a mono appliance if I know it is mono.''

So clearly Mono speakers are the worst option which gives you the worst results... Why does @Shannon listen on his mobile mono speakers then?

And I found this: ''I have recently realized that a lot of people are using the subliminals in a way I did not expect, which is, they are trying to use it through their cell phone’s built in speakers.

This does not work unless your cell phone has stereo capable speakers, and even then, it’s not a good idea. Here’s why.

The majority of my subliminals use a method called Stereo-Spatial Effects (SSE) which is intended to cause both brain hemispheres to work together to decode the subliminal audio and make sense of it. The end result, as it turns out, is a greater than 100% response because of the effect of the resultant hemispheric synergy.

When you use a subliminal that uses SSE technology and play it through a mono speaker, which nearly all cell phone speakers are, you are only playing one of the two stereo channels. This kills the SSE.

The result is that you are now hearing bits and pieces of the subliminal script, and while you can and will still get results, the impact is about 45% of what it would be if you were using both channels through a stereo speaker or headphones.

The only programs that do not use SSE are those that are Type A (the PSE Version 2.0 programs with script which are Type A/B hybrids do not, but that will change when Version 3.0 is released) and those programs that are designed specifically for one gender only, and therefore only use one gender of voice. Those programs use a different method to take the place of SSE, which makes them usable on mono speakers at full effect.

This means you can use PSE on cell phones, and programs like Alpha Male, Alpha Female, and other gender specific programs.

However.

That said… why would you ever use anything but PSE on a cell phone without headphones anyway? You don’t want to affect everyone around you, you want to affect yourself only.''

Maybe I don't understand things correctly, because English is not my native language, however I woul like to have a explanation from Shannon himself on why he uses a mono speaker. And if it really matters at all.

thats some serious digging xD

(08-05-2018, 07:28 PM)Have at ye Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 12:22 PM)Leo1990 Wrote:

(08-05-2018, 12:15 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: Hey Shannon, will luck magnifier be in DMSI 3.3?

Id like to know about UM/OP that was just released, or if it falls under the Optimus Engine...?

I'm also curious if being totally devoted to building a business and achieving real freedom (no employer, total freedom to do/go anywhere, do what I want) is resistance or not?

Why would it be resistance? Sounds to me like execution, more like. The more freedom you have... the more freedom you have!

I, for one, have never been "gainfully employed" a single day of my life, lol.

I was not 100% clear. I meant that I have no real interest in talking with women. All I want to do is focus on the business, and I wonder if that is resistance.

Hi Shannon with um/op do we need to do the 3 loops in a row or can they be done 2 loops in morning 1 in afternoon or that wont be as effective?

Thanks.

Shannon, as you already know that I got myself off of DMSI since 7 loops were triggering too much procrastination, unproductive days, mental fog, laziness and a few other things. Right now my subconscious is fighting on whether I should go back on DMSI or run MLS/AM/SM since 3.4/4.0 may take a while to come out. It's been 10 days since I last played and the effect is still as same as it was on 7 loops except for Friday when I played some tantric music, OAA, a hypnosis. You've suggested people based on their background and experience with women. I would greatly appreciate your advice during this turbulent period of mine. Thanks a ton in advance Mr. Maestro.

(08-06-2018, 12:14 AM)josh84 Wrote: Hi Shannon with um/op do we need to do the 3 loops in a row or can they be done 2 loops in morning 1 in afternoon or that wont be as effective?

Thanks.

For you, and for everyone in the future (Ben, please add this to the FAQ!):

ASRB stands for Audio to Silence Bance Ratio. It is a value composed of the amount of audio vs the amount of silence.

There is primary ASRB, which I calculate for each program and hard-code into the program. If you listen to a loop properly, it's automatic.

Then there is secondary ASRB ratio value, the number of days you use the program to the number of days you don't.

For Primary ASRB to work, the rest valkue must be added every X minutes. It is also added to the END of every track.

This means that if you do not get all instructed loops back to back, you are breaking the primary ASRB.

Always use all loops contiguously (back to back) whenever it is possible. Not "I could, but I don't feel like it". If it is POSSIBLE. And given that unless you're dealing with a sub that interrupts sleep, you can do it while you sleep -- it is virtually ALWAYS possible.