Just finished 2 loops masked flac on vlc 3.2b day 5.
First time not sleepy or falling asleep while listening but was reading a pdf online while i listened with headphones.
Something is working for me to get tired at times over the first 4 days not sure what to expect after 3 months mostly using hybrid on both 3.2a and b.
Hoping masked will work better and start seeing results soon, after i finish this 14 day cycle will go back to 3.2a using masked and see if that will work better for me.
Externally nothing that i have noticed and no changes in how i feel so far, while listening last few days body can feel warm and heart racing a bit even when sitting or laying fairly still.
Will continue to use masked for a while as it may end up working better than hybrid for me.
(05-17-2018, 03:32 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Externally nothing that i have noticed and no changes in how i feel so far, while listening last few days body can feel warm and heart racing a bit even when sitting or laying fairly still.
Is this while listening or after?
It happens when listening at my computer or laying down listening to the sub, even when very still heart feels like its beating faster, can feel a bit different in the head at different points too.
I have 4 more nights of listening to 3.2b masked with headphones before day break and going back to 3.2a.
I was at the gym today one lady i would like to talk with but continue to let my head prevent me going up to speak to her thinking would be interupting her workout so i didnt go up and talk, shes closer to my age and is very attractive so would be nice if could get her interest but might not happen until i approach her.
I did speak to another lady at the gym but ive spoken to her a couple times before so its a bit easier, we only talk a couple minutes so the aura isnt keeping them around for now. I atleast dont feel nervous speaking to her and some others that i already spoken to, just got to find a way to talk to the one i am interested in but prefer her to approach me, i have said a couple things to her like ask to share equipment and things like that but when i did that she did say was finished.
One thing i do know is she is someone that is easily approachable and happy to talk but my head prevents me from taking action to go up and speak to her which is frustrating as you could imagine.
I might do masked one loop tonight and then try ultrasonic through the night see what that does the speakers are about 6-8 feet from the bed so not sure how effective it will be but will give it a try tonight.
Listened to 3.2b masked flac last night one loop. before bed put ultasonic 3.2b on and let it play till morning total of 6 loops ultrasonic, didnt feel any different when woke up this morning.
Will keep leaving ultrasonic on for another few days and when i go back to 3.2a i will start doing one loop for first cycle then 2 loops and increase by 1 each cycle until notice some change.
Hopefully 3.3 will get me to execute since so far just not seeing anything.
Damn, 1 loop made me tired and 2 loops made me even more tired. I don't think I could have done 6.
When i listened to 1-2 loops first 3-4 days on this cycle of b since been on hybrid the last few months i did feel tired at times during the listening then wide awake for hours after so when i go back to 3.2a im going to do the 1 or 2 loops in the morning, maybe i was too far from the speakers but its a 5 speaker and woofer computer set and about 6-8 feet from my pillow so maybe was too far away, at first i did feel wide awake while listening like pulse was running fast but woke up normal.
One thing i did notice is i woke up actually earlier today then normal considering i was up as late as i was around 2.30am and woke around 6 hours later.
But while out no interest or anything so just have to keep listening and hopefully something will change, i was hoping after 3 months might of had better progress especially as i am on a cruise in 2 weeks which would be good if it helped with being more sociable, hopefully 2 cycles of 3.2a will help with that over next 2 weeks.
Today is my last day on 3.2b masked flac, last 3 days i have listened to one loop with headphones followed by 6 loops on ultrasonic while sleeping.
Unfortunately no changes in feelings emotions or anything internal, no dreams either.
Been at the shops and in a gym where there are more attractive women in this gym then you will find in most bars and even with 7 loops of 3.2b not even a glance my way is noticed im just invisible it seems.
Tomorow is day off will try 3.2a 2 loops for 7 days see if anything happens. Was hoping 3 months of use might of got me some results, i noticed even others who on previous versions with little success are making good progress, just disapointing im not seeing anything at all.
So far the only things i have experienced is when first started hybrid the first few days would get tired at times while listening, same happened when started on masked for 3 days and thats all i got out of both 3.2a and b.
Lets hope things change soon but 7 loops a night and nothing raises question how many loops do i need to see even a slight improvement in some way.
(05-25-2018, 06:40 PM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Today is my last day on 3.2b masked flac, last 3 days i have listened to one loop with headphones followed by 6 loops on ultrasonic while sleeping.
Unfortunately no changes in feelings emotions or anything internal, no dreams either.
Been at the shops and in a gym where there are more attractive women in this gym then you will find in most bars and even with 7 loops of 3.2b not even a glance my way is noticed im just invisible it seems.
Tomorow is day off will try 3.2a 2 loops for 7 days see if anything happens. Was hoping 3 months of use might of got me some results, i noticed even others who on previous versions with little success are making good progress, just disapointing im not seeing anything at all.
So far the only things i have experienced is when first started hybrid the first few days would get tired at times while listening, same happened when started on masked for 3 days and thats all i got out of both 3.2a and b.
Lets hope things change soon but 7 loops a night and nothing raises question how many loops do i need to see even a slight improvement in some way.
They've been on it alot longer. Some of the previous versions (2.5) were released over a year ago.
(05-25-2018, 06:40 PM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Today is my last day on 3.2b masked flac, last 3 days i have listened to one loop with headphones followed by 6 loops on ultrasonic while sleeping.
Unfortunately no changes in feelings emotions or anything internal, no dreams either.
Been at the shops and in a gym where there are more attractive women in this gym then you will find in most bars and even with 7 loops of 3.2b not even a glance my way is noticed im just invisible it seems.
Tomorow is day off will try 3.2a 2 loops for 7 days see if anything happens. Was hoping 3 months of use might of got me some results, i noticed even others who on previous versions with little success are making good progress, just disapointing im not seeing anything at all.
So far the only things i have experienced is when first started hybrid the first few days would get tired at times while listening, same happened when started on masked for 3 days and thats all i got out of both 3.2a and b.
Lets hope things change soon but 7 loops a night and nothing raises question how many loops do i need to see even a slight improvement in some way.
It doesn't sound like you are being consistent at all, and it sounds like you're getting discouraged without really having made a consistent change in your schedule for a reasonable amount of time. I would say that you need to pick a set number of loops and a set format and then do it every day for a week or two or four.
If you're as good at stonewalling as it sounds, try this.
Do 7 loops of masked format a day for 2 weeks, at a volume that you can consciously hear the quietest parts, but not so loud that it bothers your sleep.
If masked is impossible, then use ultrasonic, since it's going to be a little easier to see results with than hybrid for someone who responds this way.
Let go of your expectations that you need to see results instantly. That's only getting in your way. And start asking yourself why you are refusing to execute and seeking the root cause.
(05-23-2018, 09:55 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]Damn, 1 loop made me tired and 2 loops made me even more tired. I don't think I could have done 6.
When I first started 2 loops I felt like a vegetable..
Hi Shannon, thanks for your suggestion.
I started 3.2a today after 14 days of 3.2b, i did 3 loops masked this morning with headphones at 5 30am which i can continue for the 7 day cycle but next week i am on a cruise so will only be able to do 1 loop during those 10 days.
When i come back from the cruise i will try your suggestion of 7 loops through speakers during the night for 4 cycles of the 3.2a.
Maybe i am reading too many journals and noticing peoples changes with emotions and dreams and thinking if im not getting those that its not working but it probably is and im just someone that doesnt normally have dreams or atleast remember them.
So i decided to take shannons suggestion of 7 loops on 3.2a every night while i sleep for the 7 day cycles and will do it everyday apart from the day off after each cycle until im on my cruise then will do 1 loop each day while away until i come back.
My first night doing it for 7 loops was last night this morning using masked, will see how it goes over the next week and half.
I am wondering as my biggest problem is approaching attractive women and talking if i have spoken to them before then the 2nd time and other times are easy for me, but approaching for that first chat not so easy as it is for many others since my head says im bothering them such as while training at the gym where im sure many are happy to be approached and have a chat but my head gets in the way. I was thinking of using overcome approach anxiety 4g but then dmsi should overcome all those issues with better results and in the end hopefully they give more signs for us to approach them or they will end up approaching us so im not sure its worth trying OAA and just stay with dmsi but that thought is there as the description says can overcome that concern in 32 days of listening.
Ive been running 7 loops overnight masked at 40% volume on vlc through my computer speakers.
So i havent had the ups and downs still like others report that is a good and bad thing because if i was seeing the ups and downs will be able to say dmsi is affecting me more, but then its also good since not dealing with those issues either.
My biggest issues is approaching people i dont like to bother people or ask for numbers or facebook or anything like that which makes meeting people and making friends to stay in touch with a lot harder.
Last couple days though i have been able to talk to a couple ladies at the gym these are ladies i have spoken to previously but last 2 days had decent 10 minute chats with them, sort of captive audience since on a treadmill but they could of easily put headphones in and went back to their music if wanted to.
I did see a woman i want to speak with and was going to speak to her before she moved away to another exercise so didnt end up speaking to her but the positive thought of about to was there so thats a good thing.
I dont feel drained after 7 loops, i do stay in bed but getting into winter and well a warm bed is hard to leave in winter.
I am going to try something out of my comfort zone tomorow by going to a ladies day raceday, i do know a couple that are going but i might run into them might not im not actually going with them going by myself which i normally would just say dont go out if going by myself since not much fun, but im going to attempt to talk to others while out after positive chats with a couple ladies last couple days and it will be a very packed place.
At the gym externally no looks or anything from many attractive ladies around including the one i see most days i was almost about to talk with, the 2 i did speak with i have spoken to before and they are very happy smiley friendly ladies that like to chat so i wont take that as anything more than them being nice but i will agree that i am being more relaxed in making conversation. Tomorow will be a big test if i go to a raceday and not say anything to anyone all day or i make conversation with people so will see how that goes.
Im listening to my 4th day of 7 loops currently.