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Listening to hybrid trickling track day 3 2nd round this morning.

Since deciding to listen at 5am each morning im waking up just before 5 without my alarm easily something thats new to me but happening last 5-6 days and thats why decided to pick an early time so i can do other things that sometimes come up around 6 30 some mornings.

The only thing im noticing so far is my posture is more upright now this can be from dmsi or from my progress in gym as it was improving before dmsi and im walking more confidently through the gym considering a lot of guys are bigger and more fit than i am so confidence atleast internally is there for me.

A couple of looks here and there not much and nothing that wasnt happening before hand, was in the gym on the weekend they had a bunch of women in there and being filmed among all the others plenty of very attractive ones but nothing to report there. Hold eye contact slightly more.

Caffeine use is a couple of protein shakes with a small amount of caffeine in it, dont think that would cause too big of an issue since seems to be a small amount.

Basically feeling slightly more confident but still plenty of self doubt and self negative talk about myself so ptpa hasnt kicked in yet, and holding eye contact with ladies when they look in my directly slightly longer than looking away quickly are the 2 things i noticed so far after 17 days. Also the waking up early on little sleep 5 hours each day and can wake up feeling decent still some slight tiredness later in the day but its new to me so body hasnt completely adjusted to small amount of sleep.
Completed day 6 of 2nd 14 day cycle listening to hybrid flac track ocean surf today.

I listen at 5am each morning one thing i have noticed is either because of dmsi or some other reason is im waking up before the 5am alarm i have set to listen and i normally like to sleep in so waking up before an alarm goes off is good even though only had 4 hours sleep and most days around 5, i had 5 hours sleep yesterday but also got another couple in after listening to the track.

About 15-20 minutes in i get hunger pains but 6am is too early to be eating for me anyway but its stronger on ocean surf then on trickling stream.

So im in a gym full of very attractive women no matter when i go and in afternoon even more packed full of hot women 7-8-9s easy.

There is one i would like the aura and sniper to work on but yet to get any reaction or look from her even though around her within 60m for over an hour almost everyday since being on 3.2.

Plenty others there but the sniper and aura aernt taking effect yet bit dissapointing as others get good results within a few days but keep listening and see what happens.

Would be good if self esteem and positive thinking kicked in soon too.

so 20 days of listening apart from tiredness in first week, waking up before alarm, not being as tired now, not much to report in external effects or internal.

I even tried using the conscious thinking i am executing the script repeatedly while around attractive women didnt seem to do anything compared to what others are noticing.
Just completed day 9 of 2nd cycle and after a reply from shannon i decided to try my htc one mobile phone at full volume of masked flac track.

Im in a situation where because of my hearing, hybrid is proven to work better from what shannon has suggested but also if my subconscious is resisting that masked might work better so today i gave masked flac on my phone a try. Its only 6am and i got 5 more days before this cycle ends so will use this track each day with my headphones.

Its not like im deliberately trying to resist the track like most we all want it to work very well for us and i guess for some our subconscious doesnt want us to succeed atleast not yet which is dissapointing and frustrating to have our conscious wanting one thing and subconscious wanting something else.

I have gone through the settings and since theres no numbers on volume im going to try around half way on the volume slider for the remaining 5 days as its mentioned lower volume might work better, cant go too low as i still need to hear the track but i think about 50% might still be ok.

Plenty of hot women in a gym i go to daily 8s 9s and a lot of them, hopefully trying masked at 50% for the next 5 days might show some results.

The auto pilot for making conversation easy is something i really am hoping will start working soon as i am someone who only normally approaches a woman if i have something specific to ask or say, so auto pilot with self esteem and the aura to attract a womans attention would be really good in this gym.

Hopefully some positive results in the near future and when track 3.2a comes out maybe that will end up working better for some that resist strongly even when we dont realise it. I know 3.2b is meant to push through any walls easily but maybe our subconscious doesnt like to be forced and wants to take it easier which means slower results, but with a bit of luck those results will start working soon.
Day 11 of listening 2nd cycle completed, last 3 days been using masked ocean surf version with headphones with speakers turned up but vlc media player at 50% volume.

Around plenty of women at gym shops even at dinner tonight some attractive women.

My posture is taller which could be from effects of improving fitness level at the gym or dmsi but as it was improving before dmsi i think its more from my fitness improvements.

I am more confident when looking at women especially hot ones, but its rare to see any of them look in my direction or look up as you are nearby like others are noticing, so no celebrity vibe or aura so far.

Ones that were giving eye contact more at the gym before dmsi no longer even notice me even when nearby to them. That is fair though most at the gym are there to train not socialise but has gone from some looks to now im invisible. First couple of days they did look at me but, gone the other way recently it seems.

So basically nothing external so far.

Maybe volume still too loud on masked at 50% but i will finish last 3 days of this cycle at same volume.
I decided after 26 days of listening im going to try a 2nd loop.

If its option 2 or 3 from a reply from shannon and my subconscious is resisting trying masked might work better but using it for last few days no changes or any other difference in feeling such as boost in self esteem or positive thinking which are 2 i was hoping would happen a bit sooner.

If its option 3 and then my subconscious just refuses to cooperate as shannon says until he finds the magic formula no lowering of volume will make a difference.

So im trying a 2nd loop through my phone with volume just over half, i did try lower but i couldnt hear anything so just over half i can barely hear the sounds and see if it makes a difference and for tomorow and friday will run both loops together.

I know its not what we are meant to do but if my subconscious is option 3 then nothing will matter anyway so adding a 2nd loop is worth a try.

Considering my conscious mind really wants this to work its frustrating my subconscious doesnt want it to work.
13 days in of 2nd cycle, this morning did 2 loops masked with headphones on my phone, was hoping for some external responses but nothing again today. Walked past a really attractive brunette one i see most days didnt look up or anything so the aura is not appearing yet.

Have to keep waiting and see if things improve hopefully, not approaching any women as the aim is for them to approach us, i still make conversation with some at times but wont go out of my way to do so as its not what the goal of dmsi is and would like to see how effective it is.

Been using masked version this week.
Did day 1 of cycle three last night masked using earbuds this time to see if it will make a difference.

Last few days internally my confidence and self esteem is improving because i can say things to people without thinking if they will react positive or negatively to it. I am sending messages through facebook to a few i know but not really caring too much of what is said and how it may come across instead of worrying about every word and how they could read into it.

Im also able to say some things without caring too much in person what that other person might think or how they react so these are positives.

I am slightly more assertive then i had been.

I am not chasing women its not me to chase after a woman since really they will always have some excuse when you approach because they think a guy is always hitting on them, but no external looks glances just like im invisible in the room or shopping centre or anywhere else even with 5-10 feet of them they dont even look up, so the externals people see aernt there.

So the aura and celebrity vibe isnt showing up yet unlike others that are getting plenty of looks glances and other results.

I dont know even if my subconscious is still fighting or not but atleast my confidence is getting a boost.

Might do 7 days masked then try hybrid for another 7 days this time.

Would be nice for the aura to kick in soon though, more women looking is always good for confidence even if they dont make moves.
Just been reading your post. I get that DMSI isn't giving most us the results that we want yet. But when you see a girl you like, and it's clear she isn't gonna approach you, there's nothing to lose by approaching her first and seeing where it goes, no? Yes it's the goal of DMSI for women to make 100% of the moves, but a lot of us won't see that happening until 3.3, 3.4, etc. I'm getting so many looks, so I figure just go and find out. But that's just my thoughts anyway. Smile
Thanks wolverine, unfortunately im not even getting looks any more i used to but since 3.2 im pretty much invisible but thats ok im sure over time that will change, but my confidence is improving to the point not so worried with what i say.

I do get annoyed when send friends messages and they take days to respond if they even manage to make the effort to do that when have been on in that time but as i am older i think we are taught better than younger groups that its just polite to respond to peoples messages. It annoys me a lot but trying to just let it slide and just know some people are just that way.

Working on trying to be more calm and relaxed especially when something angers me.
(03-25-2018, 09:43 PM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks wolverine, unfortunately im not even getting looks any more i used to but since 3.2 im pretty much invisible but thats ok im sure over time that will change, but my confidence is improving to the point not so worried with what i say.

I get that. I have been approaching girls for a while, and for most of my time, I was barely even getting any looks either. I was still getting dates though, cause I went into the approach without knowing what would happen, but sometimes it does go really well lol. So you don't need to be getting looks for something to happen. But I understand what you mean, and yes, getting looks does boost my confidence even more, so I try act on it if I'm able to.

Let's hope that we'll all be getting approached for sex (frequently) once the final is released. Smile
It will be good if they are all chasing us at the end make life a lot easier on guys that have trouble approaching, even trying to just talk to women as friends they jump to the conclusion your hitting on them because someone says hi to them.

The ones i actually am interested in are the ones i havent spoken to yet but now my confidence is starting to improve around people i know if it continues improving it might give me that boost to go up to other women and talk to them.

Maybe soon the other parts will start to kick in too.
(03-25-2018, 10:08 PM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]It will be good if they are all chasing us at the end make life a lot easier on guys that have trouble approaching, even trying to just talk to women as friends they jump to the conclusion your hitting on them because someone says hi to them.

The ones i actually am interested in are the ones i havent spoken to yet but now my confidence is starting to improve around people i know if it continues improving it might give me that boost to go up to other women and talk to them.

Maybe soon the other parts will start to kick in too.

I personally grew a lot throughout my time of approaching girls. You know why it's beneficial to do so? You conquer your fears. My anxiety plummeted from 100 to 0. Lol okay maybe it was an exaggeration, but I did have a stuttering problem growing up, and now I'm just calm in front of women. When I did job interviews, it's nothing in comparison! I did a group interview once, and we were asked how many of us were nervous right then, and 95% of the room put their hands up. I was totally calm, cause I've been through much scarier (approaching girls). As you can see, I was a nervous wreck with anxiety issues, and now I am fearless. Another benefit is that if you're able to approach a girl calmly, it just shows you are entitled to her. It really trains your confidence. The inner effects are amazing.

Yeah I know we talked about how DMSI's goal is for them to approach us. And yes, it's gonna happen to us a lot in the future. But it doesn't mean we can't approach when we want. When I approach, it's not coming from a place of desperation. I rarely do any approaches when I'm out. I do it only when I feel inspired to, because I'm just turned on by her beauty. At the same time, I'm open to getting approached too when it happens. They don't conflict each other.
Thanks for your suggestions wolverine, i might try and start approaching even if doesnt lead anywhere might help to just meet more people and get a social circle.

I just read lano i think mentioned ultrasonic is giving him better results maybe after 7 days of masked might give ultrasonic a go through the computer speakers and see how it goes.
Just completed day 4 of 3.2a, last couple days been around heaps of women in shops gyms eatery places, 0 external looks can be near women for decent amounts of time and not even a glance. Surprising how many others getting all sorts of positive external affects and im still invisible to even average looking women not just the really attractive ones.

Internally confidence at times is better but only around people i have known a long time, not caring too much on what others think but still get frustrated easily over simple things, i do argue a bit when at shops or cafes when told one price and its not right instead of just accepting the price they say.

Was hoping to get something more after 30 days on b and 4 days on a, but maybe somethings working and cant see it, no dreams or anything like that either.
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