Subliminal Talk

(01-21-2018, 12:41 PM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-21-2018, 12:27 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-21-2018, 12:15 PM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]TBH, I had this problem of not taking action. Even when I listened to MLS-5.5G for like 40 days. I didn't feel like.

Lack of motivation and depression. So I used DRA-5.5G for like 21 days and believe me. I have never felt so motivated in my life. I only used it for 21 days.

After using DRA-5.5G I gave MLS-5.5G another try and somehow I was taking action and I still am.

I do get Panic attacks but doing some breathing helps. I think MLS-5.5G is capable to teaching u to control anxiety also.

I would say that If u wanna work on ur anxiety Issues then get ARA-5.5G.. It will help as DRA-5.5G helped me..

You know u r having anxiety. So I urge u to give it a try.. After ARA-5.5G come back to MLS-5.5G again.

You can post this question on Shannon Discussion journal also so that u may get response from Shannon.

Hey bro, the thing is I dont know if its anxiety or not so what is anxiety and what is fear?

and isnt DRA more for depression?

Ive posted on shannon's thread to get his input, so if you can or want to add to it too please do so it helps me (you and others too) thanks

and 1 more thing, which are you telling me to try then, DRA or ARA or both? before getting back onto MLS?

definately go to shannons thread where I wrote and add to it please with your suggestions incase shannon forgets about DRA or ARA etc

Do you think DRA or ARA are more stronger than DMSI2.1 or E2 in knocking whatever is inside us because clearly something inside me is messing me up causing me to becomes a procrastinator.

I am suggesting that u try ARA-5.5G. Its more focused on fixing anxiety which stems from fear.

My problem was lack of motivation which was caused by depression. But ur case is more of a anxiety and fear type... When u r calm and free of anxiety only then will u be able to focus on what u really want to. Beings stress will only drain u and when u r drained then u won't feel like doing anything...

Being stress and anxiety free is really imp step in learning anything

oh thank you this makes complete sense.

I went and had a look at the new subs, such as DRA, ARA and there was PTPA and another SE it was called for self esteem. Out of all these you still think its ARA that will fix my procrastination and feeling of overwhelm and dread?

Hi man, I ran MLS for 170 days and i was also still procrastinating hard, i now am taking a break for DMSI 3.2, it will have PTPA, SE and ARA in it, and its sexier to be a non-procrastinator so it might help with procrastination, i hope soo, i procrastinated my whole life now....

(01-21-2018, 01:49 PM)Griffin Wrote: [ -> ]Hi man, I ran MLS for 170 days and i was also still procrastinating hard, i now am taking a break for DMSI 3.2, it will have PTPA, SE and ARA in it, and its sexier to be a non-procrastinator so it might help with procrastination, i hope soo, i procrastinated my whole life now....

Im wondering when that will be released which could be months away but also if the PTPA, SE and ARA will be full or adapted for the goal of the sub because then will it help with procrastination for all things or just for the goal of the sub.

when im like this then other peoples negativity affects me more and becomes my self talk.

dont like this either

No matter what happens, No matter what. Dont give up.

I always thought that one sub would be enough to solve my problems but in past one year. I have used different subs( 3 - 5mostly) and each sub healed stuff which I didn't not expect.

Example :

I thought that listening to OF-5G will fix my procrastination but it turned out out I stopped caring about work.

Then I used MHS-5.5G thinking that it might fix my body and which might fix my Depression and lack of motivation but it didn't instead it healed me emotionally on some level that I started feeling comfortable in my own skin and I also found what I love to do most.

Even though I found what I love to do, I still had a part of me which didn't want to do anything. Then I used DRA and it fixed that part on most level..

Then after that I finally stepped on MLS-5.5G and it's working much better than it did before.

I listened to two different subliminal before coming back to MLS-5.5G..

I still think I need to use other subs before coming back to MLS-5.5G again..


Thing is when u see a sub not working or not executing then it means their is some issues u need to take care of..


Sit down and ask ur self... Are u feeling u motivated? Why? Or Are u worried?

Only u know the Answers to ur questions.. U just have to think.

My Analysis says that u need ARA. I have seen u worry alot. Maybe MLS-5.5G is working but u r so worried that u can't seem to focus.. .

Maybe ur subconscious is telling u to focus on healing ur anxiety and fears first. Listen to it.

(01-21-2018, 10:11 PM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]No matter what happens, No matter what. Dont give up.

I always thought that one sub would be enough to solve my problems but in past one year. I have used different subs( 3 - 5mostly) and each sub healed stuff which I didn't not expect.

Example :

I thought that listening to OF-5G will fix my procrastination but it turned out out I stopped caring about work.

Then I used MHS-5.5G thinking that it might fix my body and which might fix my Depression and lack of motivation but it didn't instead it healed me emotionally on some level that I started feeling comfortable in my own skin and I also found what I love to do most.

Even though I found what I love to do, I still had a part of me which didn't want to do anything. Then I used DRA and it fixed that part on most level..

Then after that I finally stepped on MLS-5.5G and it's working much better than it did before.

I listened to two different subliminal before coming back to MLS-5.5G..

I still think I need to use other subs before coming back to MLS-5.5G again..


Thing is when u see a sub not working or not executing then it means their is some issues u need to take care of..


Sit down and ask ur self... Are u feeling u motivated? Why? Or Are u worried?

Only u know the Answers to ur questions.. U just have to think.

My Analysis says that u need ARA. I have seen u worry alot. Maybe MLS-5.5G is working but u r so worried that u can't seem to focus.. .

Maybe ur subconscious is telling u to focus on healing ur anxiety and fears first. Listen to it.

Bro your advice and your awareness is awesome!!!

Ok let me see if I can answer your questions here as it will help you to help me for sure.

I am scared. I am worried and I feel a stress or pressure inside my chest and back of my head. I dont want to use the word "anxious" incase this isnt what anxiety is but I think it is.

when im motivated, which I do feel at times I still procrastinate and avoid the work and rather do anything fun and relaxing rather than anything stressful or boring.

I feel like im self-sabotaging myself too because of all this.

so what do you think?

New update

I have anxiety.

I dont have it until my exam nears, then the fear of knowing nothing and the fear of not studying hits me.

All year long ill be relaxed or not feel this negative energy at all or rather not enough to have me work and push me to study.

I only feel it when I am worried or others around me worry and involve me in their negative energy as is the case at the moment.

I want to be immune from other peoples negative energy but I also want to clear whatever is inside me so that I can move forward.

I am thinking therefore either the worry is only in my when I have an issue or I have worry inside me that is apathetic or invisible to me, I squeeze it down until i feel it at the time of the deadlines etc.

I dont know what I have all I know is that I am someone that wants to change and be a success and be driven not someone that lives in this negative situation.

I have been and will make conscious changes as I can, I try to set goals and daily to do lists and I attend all my classes and try to find solutions to my current ineffective habits but I am not clearing anything within.

I know also that constantly going home and coming back disrupts me and doesnt allow me to get daily consistent listening of these subs.

I know that not having a bedroom in the UK home prevents me from having the full exposure of these subs too.

I have therefore decided that once I am back in february, to listen to the subs (hybrid, or silent or both depending on how that night goes), but also once im back to try and not go back to the UK for atleast 3months.

I need to build daily consistent routines, rituals and habits if im to make changes in my life.

I need to read books for my degree daily, if even just for 10mins, and I need to study daily and exercise daily and sleep properly daily and also not be disrupted so easily by porn and social media.

When I am feeling this anxiety and this fear and this procrastination I then turn to my phone or my laptop and browse porn even though im not horny and have no need to and I play phone games or check emails or run to this site or others etc.

The point is I need to set times of when im going to work and when im going to play, when im going to slepe and when im going to eat.

I eat for 2hrs, because I am not disciplining my self daily to become the person I want to become which is an achiever. I dont mind eating for 2hrs (I mean I have 2hrs for meal time where I watch a show and eat)....so im going to change this.

I am going to eat not where I sit and study. I am going to make time to eat away from my study desk.

I am also not going to check emails here or the internet either.

I will clear my dinning room desk, I will eat on 1 chair and I will browse the internet on another chair.

I will also play games at this dining table area too.

My desk at home is and should only be for studying.

I need to also study away from my apartment. I need to use a coffee shop or a library or a study room but use 2 of these ideally.

I can study at home but only on those times if I must be home otherwise home should be for eating and sleeping now otherwise will procrastinate more.

I need to procrastination to be difficult, I need it to stop and I need to be more aware and focused of my time and what I am doing.

I think I find it hard to switch from play to work and to play. When I play/have fun I do need it to continue and when I work I need to be in that zone.

let me know what you all think but this is my plan.

I went to a another post and shared the below and it was quite enlightening for me so im sharing here and will share on shannons thread to see if he can advise on it...

(01-24-2018, 07:23 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]I remember on E2 I did get dreams twice or 3 times but no more. So this is an effective then but after this I felt and noticed nothing.

At the time Shannon said maybe I had deeper issues that needed clearing but I had to use MLS which was a far more advanced tech to get benefits for university.

I now think maybe to deal with my procrastination and fear I need to clear the crap from inside me even though I dont know what that is or what trauma I have had ever.

What I do know is that I have suffered from fear as any child, such as fear of swimming and I have had anxiety when I have had to perform in tests and exams from the age of 11.

I also feared/anxiety going to school from age 11-18, every day. I hated it.

I would spend my recess/break times in the toilet cubicles where I was alone and safe.

I wasnt part of any large social group at this school.

So wow im admitting alot here but would this have effected me so deep? outwardly im very confident and social.

I should post this on shannons thread and ask what is the most powerful sub to clear inner issues - maybe the next DMSI is what I need?

Im back, back on here and back in europe after my break with the family.

I havent listened to MLS so its enough of a break from that.

It hasnt worked, whether that be due to not getting enough exposure to it consistently or due to it not working on me for 101 other reasons.

That being said I plan and have been planning ways to make procrastination harder, by planning alternative places to study next semester (which starts next week).

I also know that MLS isnt the sub it was made out to be.

With all the bells and whistles in it, even with less exposure it hasnt affected me and I think Zane is correct in understanding how these subs work on him and perhaps he and I are similar in many ways.

I will think now how to move forward.

I have made a schedule and plan as to how I want to tackle the next 15weeks of Uni before the exams start in June.

I have spoken to a academic tutor in the USA, for the past 2 days who has given me some insights and advice as to what has worked for him.

I have also been in touch with other academic coaches in the USA for the past year, hoping to get a session with them to focus on my study skills.

I however have been given a life line by the top coach in this organisation in purchasing a learning kit with videos and instructions to help learning and studying backed by the latest scientific research so I will consider if I want to purchase or can afford the cost for this.

I have been in touch with a personal trainer here in this city I study in. I found him before xmas and was due to meet him today but he had to reschedule until tomorrow. I will meet him tomorrow to discuss dietary changes i want to incorporate into my school week.

All the above has been due to my persistent nature in wanting to fix myself and fix my bad habits.

I have always been someone wanting to better himself and always found resources but the actual implementation has been difficult.

I thus spent many hours in January procrastinating but yet researching how success is achieved and the real answer is daily consistent habit - whether 5mins daily or hours daily, the key is daily daily daily.

I dont believe I have been stonewalling any subs consciously and if it has been subconscious then something inside of me is stronger than the subs sold here which is a shame.

However I do believe that the advice given to me by Zane is correct and the anxiety I felt around exam time leading to my procrastination needs to be dealt with so I may consider purchasing ASA sub.

I have also decided to try and stay here in europe until June, rather than go back home and break my cycle of sleep and efforts thus any sub I play now will have consistent listen I hope.

I am doing and have done all that I can and hoped that the subs had worked on me as they seem to on you all.

The only sub that gave me dreams seemed to be E2, and that was 2 dreams so perhaps that or a stronger healing sub is required rather than a sub dealing with MLS.

I therefore will either listen to ASA while doing whatever I can consciously/daily (as per above) in the hope that I made consistent action and hope that with ASA the road ahead and the next step to take will be clearer.

Let me reiterate, I am not relying on subs, I was hoping that subs would help clear my inner issues around fears and procrastination. If they cannot help me then I dont see how subs work at all.

I will try again to make conscious movement daily towards my studying and self development goals and each day and week tweak my actions I hope to make the next day and week that much easier and better but yes I will hope that whichever sub I use helps make it easier in some way or help me to advance quicker.

Feel free to share your views and comment as it always helps me to learn to help myself.

thanks for reading.

Quote:I also know that MLS isnt the sub it was made out to be.

So what you're saying is, because you refused to cooperate and execute the instructions, I must be being dishonest about what it's designed to do? That makes no sense, especially since others are getting the results, and we have readily determined that there is a clear demarcation between those who are executing and getting the results, and those who are stonewalling.

If you're not getting the results, it's not because "the program doesn't work". The program is a list of instructions, which YOU have to execute. Since some people are getting the results and some are not, the clear fact is, those who execute, get the results, and those who don't, do not.

I have made the script as persuasive as I could up to the point where I made that program, but the Prime Directive is, I can't take away your free will. And what you have done with your free will is... refuse to cooperate.

Since it appears that at least half of the people running that program are getting the results, it clearly works, which means... it does what it's designed to do, if the user chooses to execute. Which means it is exactly the sub it was made out to be.

This is you, again, trying to avoid taking responsibility for your own choices and actions. It's like you walking into a refrigerator, stubbing your toe and then getting mad at the refrigerator because "it kicked you".

Once again... subliminal programs are a set of spoken instructions. These instructions are designed to be as persuasive as possible, but in the end, I am not allowed to, or willing to, take away your free will. So in the end, you have these instructions, and it's YOUR CHOICE whether or not to execute them. If you do, you get the same results as everyone else who is executing them. If not, you get... nothing.

But it's your choice. The program description page tells you what the program is designed to do. This presumes you choose to execute.

In DMSI 3.2, I am working hard to make executing the only thing you are willing to do, but no matter how advanced and powerful I make these programs, in the end, I cannot and will not violate the Prime Directive of free will. Therefore, there will always be a small number of people on the fringes who do not execute, because they refuse to. And they will always be the ones who are trying to blame the program (an inanimate list of instructions, a sound) for their choice to do nothing and achieve nothing.

The biggest issue you have, Jake, is not taking personal responsibility. This last post sounds like you're making progress, but you also need more work.

(02-08-2018, 07:17 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:I also know that MLS isnt the sub it was made out to be.

So what you're saying is, because you refused to cooperate and execute the instructions, I must be being dishonest about what it's designed to do? That makes no sense, especially since others are getting the results, and we have readily determined that there is a clear demarcation between those who are executing and getting the results, and those who are stonewalling.

If you're not getting the results, it's not because "the program doesn't work". The program is a list of instructions, which YOU have to execute. Since some people are getting the results and some are not, the clear fact is, those who execute, get the results, and those who don't, do not.

I have made the script as persuasive as I could up to the point where I made that program, but the Prime Directive is, I can't take away your free will. And what you have done with your free will is... refuse to cooperate.

Since it appears that at least half of the people running that program are getting the results, it clearly works, which means... it does what it's designed to do, if the user chooses to execute. Which means it is exactly the sub it was made out to be.

This is you, again, trying to avoid taking responsibility for your own choices and actions. It's like you walking into a refrigerator, stubbing your toe and then getting mad at the refrigerator because "it kicked you".

Once again... subliminal programs are a set of spoken instructions. These instructions are designed to be as persuasive as possible, but in the end, I am not allowed to, or willing to, take away your free will. So in the end, you have these instructions, and it's YOUR CHOICE whether or not to execute them. If you do, you get the same results as everyone else who is executing them. If not, you get... nothing.

But it's your choice. The program description page tells you what the program is designed to do. This presumes you choose to execute.

In DMSI 3.2, I am working hard to make executing the only thing you are willing to do, but no matter how advanced and powerful I make these programs, in the end, I cannot and will not violate the Prime Directive of free will. Therefore, there will always be a small number of people on the fringes who do not execute, because they refuse to. And they will always be the ones who are trying to blame the program (an inanimate list of instructions, a sound) for their choice to do nothing and achieve nothing.

The biggest issue you have, Jake, is not taking personal responsibility. This last post sounds like you're making progress, but you also need more work.

Thank you Shannon.

Im confused, if i am resisting then how do I stop resisting the subs? thats what ive been trying to do by playing them at night.

You said at the end I need more work, what do I need to do exactly please?

Im doing consciously whatever I can as you have read from the previous post and im still going to continue but any help will be really appreciated.

thank you

This journal is coming to an end as I will be moving on to DMSI 3.2.

Thanks for reading.