Subliminal Talk

Day 15 Update

So so far I've been procrastinating as you all know.

I today listened to the US for approx. 13-15hours. This was because I went to bed at midnight, couldnt sleep until 6am or 7am and then woke around 2pm and let it continue to play while I showered so returned to a room which continued to play the sub.

I had a thought, that perhaps E2 did maybe have an effect on may but a negative one.

I cannot be sure about this but while getting dry I was thinking of hour I was very well not depressed but down due to not having a social life, a social group now nor doing anything except staying in my apartment procrastinating.

I today spoke to a friend before my shower, on the phone and then felt well not down, not due to him but maybe due to having had some social interaction and contact.

Either way I'm just postulating here that maybe E2 was causing the down feeling but who knows, as I certainly don't.

That being said I have an exam tomorrow and so guess what the procrastination has suddenly reduced MAGIC right!! so ill just get on with prepping for that.

I do hope that MLS is released in the summer, this will help a lot I'm sure.

I do also hope that in the future the later versions of E2 and other clearing elements of subs work at a far quicker rate than they currently do, due to the previous post which made me wonder.

We seek change, healing, progress in the swiftest safest way without spending years on a single sub for achievement of a goal.

anyway Im rambling out my thoughts so back to today....

Well I won't be surprised if one has to listen to sub for 1-2 years. I mean I have usually thought thats how it was..

(06-13-2017, 08:46 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]Well I won't be surprised if one has to listen to sub for 1-2 years. I mean I have usually thought thats how it was..

Do you mean for every sub or just the clearing ones?

I hope the non-clearing ones that deal with specific goals can work quicker otherwise we'll only get to 1 goal every 10years lol

(06-13-2017, 09:08 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-13-2017, 08:46 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]Well I won't be surprised if one has to listen to sub for 1-2 years. I mean I have usually thought thats how it was..

Do you mean for every sub or just the clearing ones?

I hope the non-clearing ones that deal with specific goals can work quicker otherwise we'll only get to 1 goal every 10years lol

Do u remember a guy who used AOS for about 2 years and he also uploaded his pic. When u look at his pic he was absolutely transformed. I'd think he would have gotten far with his progress if he had only listened for about 3 months.

If for past 1-2 year ur subconscious is focused on only one particular goal just by listening to a particular sub script again and again. Then what u r gonna see is some serious rapid transformation, growth /healing.. Considering that there isn't any kind of block like - Fear which is why anyone resist change..

I mean its a common sense if u keep doing calculus for past two years then u will become an expert in it and you will be able to solve any problems given cause in time u have understood what is the core concept of the Calculus... and chances are you won't forget them easily Infact u will remember them for ever and even if u forget it u will need a brief revision and that's all u bring the subconscious data to conscious mind..

But if u only learn calculus for 3 months then u know that after sometime u might forget it and u might need a long to to revise before u start doing it.

Same is with subs. When u use the subs for long term like 6 months or a year something then ur subconscious mind becomes expert at any emotional trauma life throws at you because ur subconscious will know where to start healing you from so that u can get over an emotional event asap.. Cause ur subconscious will know the core concept of healing ur emotions.. .

Because if u really see it then we really arnt reprogramming our brain/mind/body by using subliminals... But we are.. Teaching it! and every new generation of subliminal is like a better teacher than before in a particular subject but we still need to do our homework...

(06-13-2017, 10:28 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-13-2017, 09:08 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-13-2017, 08:46 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]Well I won't be surprised if one has to listen to sub for 1-2 years. I mean I have usually thought thats how it was..

Do you mean for every sub or just the clearing ones?

I hope the non-clearing ones that deal with specific goals can work quicker otherwise we'll only get to 1 goal every 10years lol

Do u remember a guy who used AOS for about 2 years and he also uploaded his pic. When u look at his pic he was absolutely transformed. I'd think he would have gotten far with his progress if he had only listened for about 3 months.

If for past 1-2 year ur subconscious is focused on only one particular goal just by listening to a particular sub script again and again. Then what u r gonna see is some serious rapid transformation, growth /healing.. Considering that there isn't any kind of block like - Fear which is why anyone resist change..

I mean its a common sense if u keep doing calculus for past two years then u will become an expert in it and you will be able to solve any problems given cause in time u have understood what is the core concept of the Calculus... and chances are you won't forget them easily Infact u will remember them for ever and even if u forget it u will need a brief revision and that's all u bring the subconscious data to conscious mind..

But if u only learn calculus for 3 months then u know that after sometime u might forget it and u might need a long to to revise before u start doing it.

Same is with subs. When u use the subs for long term like 6 months or a year something then ur subconscious mind becomes expert at any emotional trauma life throws at you because ur subconscious will know where to start healing you from so that u can get over an emotional event asap.. Cause ur subconscious will know the core concept of healing ur emotions.. .

Because if u really see it then we really arnt reprogramming our brain/mind/body by using subliminals... But we are.. Teaching it! and every new generation of subliminal is like a better teacher than before in a particular subject but we still need to do our homework...

Thats really good way to explain it.

I remember that dude, think his name was Justin and his transformation was amazing.

The thing is if e2 and any clearing sub slows you down, makes you more relaxed to heal you then those of us that need motivation to get going with tests and exams at school have problems otherwise if my life was allowing me to, then id probably have stayed on E2 for way longer.

Because I have tests/exams then I have no choice and had no choice but to try and get out of the procrastination rut I was and still am in.

Thats why I feel healing subs need to change somehow so that they heal yet not affect your day to day life.

know what i mean?

Use MLS-5.5G for 6 months straight as soon as it comes out. When "Learning" becomes a part of u then u can run E2 or other healing subs for another 6 months.

Even with subs you need time to transform don't you agree? I was told to not run AM6 cause I was to fucked up already Infact I was recommended E1 but I choose OF-5G cause I knew what was causing it.

I mean if u plan it out:

E2 for 6 months
Then MLS-5.5G for another 6 months
Then AM6
Then DMSI or BASE-6G.
Or u know Exercise Sub..

(06-13-2017, 12:25 PM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]Use MLS-5.5G for 6 months straight as soon as it comes out. When "Learning" becomes a part of u then u can run E2 or other healing subs for another 6 months.

Even with subs you need time to transform don't you agree? I was told to not run AM6 cause I was to ***** up already Infact I was recommended E1 but I choose OF-5G cause I knew what was causing it.

I mean if u plan it out:

E2 for 6 months
Then MLS-5.5G for another 6 months
Then AM6
Then DMSI or BASE-6G.
Or u know Exercise Sub..

Man I love the way you think cos it does make sense but if learning becomes a part of me then even then I'm sure e2 would only pull me back no?

Is 6months enough though cos yeah I agree you need time to sort yourself out but will 6months be enough?

TBH my understanding is that E2 isn't powerful for me, and maybe once I've got whatever I can from MLS then I need to start something like DMSI or a more powerful healing sub if released by then.

what do you think MLS will deal with, any thoughts on this? I

(06-13-2017, 01:33 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-13-2017, 12:25 PM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]Use MLS-5.5G for 6 months straight as soon as it comes out. When "Learning" becomes a part of u then u can run E2 or other healing subs for another 6 months.

Even with subs you need time to transform don't you agree? I was told to not run AM6 cause I was to ***** up already Infact I was recommended E1 but I choose OF-5G cause I knew what was causing it.

I mean if u plan it out:

E2 for 6 months
Then MLS-5.5G for another 6 months
Then AM6
Then DMSI or BASE-6G.
Or u know Exercise Sub..

Man I love the way you think cos it does make sense but if learning becomes a part of me then even then I'm sure e2 would only pull me back no?

Is 6months enough though cos yeah I agree you need time to sort yourself out but will 6months be enough?

TBH my understanding is that E2 isn't powerful for me, and maybe once I've got whatever I can from MLS then I need to start something like DMSI or a more powerful healing sub if released by then.

what do you think MLS will deal with, any thoughts on this? I

You know in this world of today's we need to keep learning stuff as time passes. It applies to everything...Jobs,Business, Cracking Exams. We live in a society where there is information everywhere. But the ability to absorb that information and process it isn't there.. If u learn to absorb, understand /learn then it will help u progress in life.. . I mean come on who doesn't love a person who is always up to date with knowledge and current events.. My father was recently recently received an award cause he is always up to date with tech stuff in market and due to his quick decision making he save his company for losses... My father was always like that and since belonged to a very poor family he worked hard and now is an important figure in his company..(Can't belive i am his son who sleeps on his ass all day.. Lol)..
All because he kept himself updated while others in office were fucking around. He got promoted 3 times.. ..

Inthose years he lost his health also and was admitted to hospital for months but even after that he is still a genius... Why only because learning has become a part of him...

One learning becomes interesting and a part of u just like breathing then u won't have to worry much. I mean just imagine that u can read an entire book even if it's boring lol..

After it becomes a part of u then u won't have to worry much about other subs. Like E2 and if E2 doesn't work then move to DMSI. With time ur resistance is only gonna get weaker as the subs on this site will get stronger.


Inshort Set ur subliminals priority wise.. You are a student right now and what's really bothering you rightly now is ability to learn effectively. This is what u want the most and this is the reason u r here. Once u fix this issue then u can move on to second one.

Six months is more than enough. If that isn't then Idk what is.
I am curiously waiting for MLS-5.5G and I wanna see what's gonna happen. Cause I know it's coming with full force..

(06-13-2017, 02:26 PM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-13-2017, 01:33 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-13-2017, 12:25 PM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]Use MLS-5.5G for 6 months straight as soon as it comes out. When "Learning" becomes a part of u then u can run E2 or other healing subs for another 6 months.

Even with subs you need time to transform don't you agree? I was told to not run AM6 cause I was to ***** up already Infact I was recommended E1 but I choose OF-5G cause I knew what was causing it.

I mean if u plan it out:

E2 for 6 months
Then MLS-5.5G for another 6 months
Then AM6
Then DMSI or BASE-6G.
Or u know Exercise Sub..

Man I love the way you think cos it does make sense but if learning becomes a part of me then even then I'm sure e2 would only pull me back no?

Is 6months enough though cos yeah I agree you need time to sort yourself out but will 6months be enough?

TBH my understanding is that E2 isn't powerful for me, and maybe once I've got whatever I can from MLS then I need to start something like DMSI or a more powerful healing sub if released by then.

what do you think MLS will deal with, any thoughts on this? I

You know in this world of today's we need to keep learning stuff as time passes. It applies to everything...Jobs,Business, Cracking Exams. We live in a society where there is information everywhere. But the ability to absorb that information and process it isn't there.. If u learn to absorb, understand /learn then it will help u progress in life.. . I mean come on who doesn't love a person who is always up to date with knowledge and current events.. My father was recently recently received an award cause he is always up to date with tech stuff in market and due to his quick decision making he save his company for losses... My father was always like that and since belonged to a very poor family he worked hard and now is an important figure in his company..(Can't belive i am his son who sleeps on his ass all day.. Lol)..
All because he kept himself updated while others in office were ***** around. He got promoted 3 times.. ..

Inthose years he lost his health also and was admitted to hospital for months but even after that he is still a genius... Why only because learning has become a part of him...

One learning becomes interesting and a part of u just like breathing then u won't have to worry much. I mean just imagine that u can read an entire book even if it's boring lol..

After it becomes a part of u then u won't have to worry much about other subs. Like E2 and if E2 doesn't work then move to DMSI. With time ur resistance is only gonna get weaker as the subs on this site will get stronger.


Inshort Set ur subliminals priority wise.. You are a student right now and what's really bothering you rightly now is ability to learn effectively. This is what u want the most and this is the reason u r here. Once u fix this issue then u can move on to second one.

Six months is more than enough. If that isn't then Idk what is.
I am curiously waiting for MLS-5.5G and I wanna see what's gonna happen. Cause I know it's coming with full force..

Your father seems like a perfect role model dude!!

I understand now what you are saying and yeah my priority is learning and yeah I want to get to a stage where reading a textbook or some technical book is both easy and enjoyable for sure as well as motivated to read it like I have to for university right now.

I think though since already e2 was shown not to be the best for me that maybe after MLS and if my priority hasnt changed that I then use a stronger clearing sub like DMSI to smash through anything before I then jump onto e2. thats just how I feel at the moment.

I was always hoping though that for me E2 would work in weeks, because it had for others on here but yeah I'm also hoping that subs get stronger.

You know I read somewhere maybe on Shannons journal this evening that he's seen some loop holes and issues that he can plug to overcome resistance and therefore he will make a stronger or better sub and trial it out in dmsi 3.2, but if he has this now do you think he can or will put it into MLS so that its even stronger?

I really hope that MLS fixes my major issues and these are the following:

Procrastination

Self motivation

Time management

Ability to read and understand and remember first time

Ability to understand complex material and enjoy it

Enjoy learning and studying and not just perform well in class or tests and exams but actually learn to be able to use later.

I think sleep and good diet/nutrition too that will help me to function well and therefore study well too.

I don't know if the above is even possible because I'm being very optimistic and fantasising a lot.

For me the only way I will know that MLS is working is when I can say I have no procrastination towards studying but actually desire it and I'm not afraid to study or learn.

I want to be that student that comes home from class and eats and relaxes but wants to then sit and study and hit whatever self imposed deadlines I've put on myself, like reading 2 chapters today or doing whatever reading or writing I have to before Saturday etc and that why time management is crucial too.

You know a photographic memory would also be terrific but can MLS even do that i don't know.

Im scared you know, what if MLS doesn't even work on me then what do I do


Im gnna add to this post with the following:

My goals are simple, I have to sit these exams, expecting to fail 1 or 2 I know because I'm procrastinating way more than I ever should.

I then have a resit in august/sept that I MUST pass.

MLS or IYGSH needs to get me moving by then atleast.

I then am prepared to give MLS if its out eventually until next summer exams, which I need to pass and then pass all resits that I will have carried over from these current exams that I'm in the middle of.

I hope MLS works for me in 6months but I'm worried if it will

Day 16 Update

Had exam today.

I was surprised and a little down because I finally got to see the amount of material we actually had to study and learn.

What further added to me feeling despondent was that there is a guy at uni who studies through the year and so compiles some great notes which he shared with me.

I want to be a good student, i want to work diligently through the year so that come exam time and beyond I know my shit, but this guys notes made me think WOW and omg I can't do this.

I realised from this that the script in my mind is one of losing time to enjoy myself. If I study at home/library and do the amount of work that this guy has, then I won't have time to enjoy myself or live my life.

I realised also that the sheer amount of work needed to read and collect into notes meant that I would be bored.

I want to be a student that gets grades, high good grades but I don't want to feel overwhelmed, bored by hard work etc.

I hope this realisation is what IYGSH and MLS will deal with.

(06-14-2017, 11:31 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]Day 16 Update

Had exam today.

I was surprised and a little down because I finally got to see the amount of material we actually had to study and learn.

What further added to me feeling despondent was that there is a guy at uni who studies through the year and so compiles some great notes which he shared with me.

I want to be a good student, i want to work diligently through the year so that come exam time and beyond I know my shit, but this guys notes made me think WOW and omg I can't do this.

I realised from this that the script in my mind is one of losing time to enjoy myself. If I study at home/library and do the amount of work that this guy has, then I won't have time to enjoy myself or live my life.

I realised also that the sheer amount of work needed to read and collect into notes meant that I would be bored.

I want to be a student that gets grades, high good grades but I don't want to feel overwhelmed, bored by hard work etc.

I hope this realisation is what IYGSH and MLS will deal with.

All I see is "Fear". Fear that u will loose precious moments of ur life if u start studying like him. But instead u will gain many.

(06-14-2017, 12:08 PM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-14-2017, 11:31 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]Day 16 Update

Had exam today.

I was surprised and a little down because I finally got to see the amount of material we actually had to study and learn.

What further added to me feeling despondent was that there is a guy at uni who studies through the year and so compiles some great notes which he shared with me.

I want to be a good student, i want to work diligently through the year so that come exam time and beyond I know my shit, but this guys notes made me think WOW and omg I can't do this.

I realised from this that the script in my mind is one of losing time to enjoy myself. If I study at home/library and do the amount of work that this guy has, then I won't have time to enjoy myself or live my life.

I realised also that the sheer amount of work needed to read and collect into notes meant that I would be bored.

I want to be a student that gets grades, high good grades but I don't want to feel overwhelmed, bored by hard work etc.

I hope this realisation is what IYGSH and MLS will deal with.

All I see is "Fear". Fear that u will loose precious moments of ur life if u start studying like him. But instead u will gain many.

consciously I know you are correct. There is a long bridge from my conscious to my subconscious, and I cannot cross over to make the subconscious listen.

Didn't you journal that with OF you are procrastinating? Still think MLS will help me with this fear of mine?

Well I don't really remember but IIRC when I started OF-5G I was trying to procrastinate stuff but I think it was just a phase. Before OF-5G I would play games all day and would watch movies and waste my time. I was even avoiding doing simple task like going to nearby shop just to get some eggs or stuff. My family was fed up with it. But now when I look back I do have change alot and I go out like it's no big deal and Social Anxiety has gone completely.... My family used to call me "Mr Sleepy" cause I was always on bed. But I haven't been called since I have been running OF-5G..

I don't think procrastination is my problem anymore. I mean if u tell me to get out of the house in middle of the night then I am willing to do it. But given that I am not tired physically..

My only problem right now is that when I try to study then it takes a lot of willpower to force myself to study and therefore. I can't study like that it exhaust me. It's like I have lost interest in studies but I need to because I am gonna apply for job next year and I need to study and revise stuff.. I seriously don't fear studying all day but if u dont have or lost interest in something then it doesn't mean u r procrastinating...

(06-14-2017, 01:51 PM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]Well I don't really remember but IIRC when I started OF-5G I was trying to procrastinate stuff but I think it was just a phase. Before OF-5G I would play games all day and would watch movies and waste my time. I was even avoiding doing simple task like going to nearby shop just to get some eggs or stuff. My family was fed up with it. But now when I look back I do have change alot and I go out like it's no big deal and Social Anxiety has gone completely.... My family used to call me "Mr Sleepy" cause I was always on bed. But I haven't been called since I have been running OF-5G..

I don't think procrastination is my problem anymore. I mean if u tell me to get out of the house in middle of the night then I am willing to do it. But given that I am not tired physically..

My only problem right now is that when I try to study then it takes a lot of willpower to force myself to study and therefore. I can't study like that it exhaust me. It's like I have lost interest in studies but I need to because I am gonna apply for job next year and I need to study and revise stuff.. I seriously don't fear studying all day but if u dont have or lost interest in something then it doesn't mean u r procrastinating...

In this case I think MLS will help us both ALOT.

Im interested in the study but we all lose interest with studying during the term/semester and especially during exam time when the pressure builds up, this has been my experience.

Kuddos to you for overcoming your procrastination and social anxiety.

Perhaps in my case, once i have done a good time of MLS, I may go to OF but I also believe DSMI may help me which reminds me I need to add a further update...