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You only need to get past a certain amount of fear to overcome procrastination(Like 20%) to study effectively and MLS-5.5G will do that.

It's not like u need to completely remove ur fear(100%) cause u r going for War.

Only some branch of fear needs to be cut off for MLS-5.5G to work effectively.. Not the whole tree.

You can cut the whole tree after u have done ur MLS-5.5G run by listening to DMSI or OF-5G.. Whatever u wish.

% only for example
Day 16 Update continued...


I forgot to share this and its related to DMSI....


So today after my exam when I came out of the building, I saw a girl from my year sitting there who also had the same exam with another teacher in a another room.

She's a girl I have found cute last year but she stopped talking to me (maybe because I came across too strong perhaps)

Anyway today we got talking and it was great but it was all related to upcoming exams and she was sharing how to study for them. I had to end the chat because a friend had patiently been waiting for me.

She made me want her though and it lingered in my mind.

I then realised and remembered what ReeZox said to me that i shared above, yesterday.

I realised that DMSI may actually help me achieve most of my goals related to looking sexier.

I say this because I had wished I looked better, and had good "game" to allow this girl to consider me as more than just a random associate.

I realised that maybe DSMI will help me with my goals as in directly they mostly aimed at making me look sexier, such as eating right, going gym, taking the right supplements at the right time day in day out and also to sleep right etc.

anyone reading this think I'm correct about this?

So maybe going forward this is the 1 sub that could indirectly help me to activate my other goals.
(06-14-2017, 01:10 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-14-2017, 12:28 PM)Trend Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-13-2017, 07:35 PM)Roy Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,I made a thread once suggesting intelligence enhancer subliminal,is it possible to build today with the improvement in the technology?

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-1236.html

Isn't all that going to be included in the new MLS ?

Yes.
and...


(06-14-2017, 01:02 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-13-2017, 07:35 PM)Roy Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,I made a thread once suggesting intelligence enhancer subliminal,is it possible to build today with the improvement in the technology?

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-1236.html

It is potentially possible. We are going to find out when I put it in MLS. Based on P6 type reports... it is possible. We will know for sure some time in the future.
Day 17 Update

nothing to report except some realisations.

Was in bed, woke and heard how someone I saw as a good friend was being a better friend to someone I do not approve of and thus felt negative.

This lead me to think about how I treat others and its based on guilt.

What I mean is that if I do wrong to anyone I get guilty, I feel guilt and don't want to hurt anyone or try to.

I can be a bitch of course but the point is that this made me realise that perhaps I have a lot of guilt inside that needs to be cleared.

I know that clearing guilt is in E2 and other subs, but i don't want to lose that guilt if it then makes me become a complete dick.

other than that, a friend that informed me of todays gossip passed his major exam today and that uplifted me and made me think if he can do it, then so can I, but I'm not doing it, I'm still thinking happy wishful thoughts but I'm not taking action!!!
(06-15-2017, 03:58 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]Day 17 Update

nothing to report except some realisations.

Was in bed, woke and heard how someone I saw as a good friend was being a better friend to someone I do not approve of and thus felt negative.

This lead me to think about how I treat others and its based on guilt.

What I mean is that if I do wrong to anyone I get guilty, I feel guilt and don't want to hurt anyone or try to.

I can be a bitch of course but the point is that this made me realise that perhaps I have a lot of guilt inside that needs to be cleared.

I know that clearing guilt is in E2 and other subs, but i don't want to lose that guilt if it then makes me become a complete dick.

other than that, a friend that informed me of todays gossip passed his major exam today and that uplifted me and made me think if he can do it, then so can I, but I'm not doing it, I'm still thinking happy wishful thoughts but I'm not taking action!!!

I think this what u r seeing is "Blooming" effects of E2. I guess that's what Shannon and others call it. When u stop listening to particular sub and after that ur subconscious is starts executing the subliminal script with full force.. I am pretty sure that ur subconscious Eis now fully executing the script of E2. No wonder u r feeling the all this. Before this ur mind was listening and executing but now it's just executing the script.

I remember I was listening to MHS-5.5G for 30 days and my lower back pain wasn't gone.. But after I stopping listening after 30 day. I noticed that with dew days it was gone. I still have stiffness here and there but not that much.
(06-15-2017, 07:40 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-15-2017, 03:58 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]Day 17 Update

nothing to report except some realisations.

Was in bed, woke and heard how someone I saw as a good friend was being a better friend to someone I do not approve of and thus felt negative.

This lead me to think about how I treat others and its based on guilt.

What I mean is that if I do wrong to anyone I get guilty, I feel guilt and don't want to hurt anyone or try to.

I can be a bitch of course but the point is that this made me realise that perhaps I have a lot of guilt inside that needs to be cleared.

I know that clearing guilt is in E2 and other subs, but i don't want to lose that guilt if it then makes me become a complete dick.

other than that, a friend that informed me of todays gossip passed his major exam today and that uplifted me and made me think if he can do it, then so can I, but I'm not doing it, I'm still thinking happy wishful thoughts but I'm not taking action!!!

I think this what u r seeing is "Blooming" effects of E2. I guess that's what Shannon and others call it. When u stop listening to particular sub and after that ur subconscious is starts executing the subliminal script with full force.. I am pretty sure that ur subconscious Eis now fully executing the script of E2. No wonder u r feeling the all this. Before this ur mind was listening and executing but now it's just executing the script.

I remember I was listening to MHS-5.5G for 30 days and my lower back pain wasn't gone.. But after I stopping listening after 30 day. I noticed that with dew days it was gone. I still have stiffness here and there but not that much.

Zane can you explain more how you think this is blooming effect bro so I can understand it? and well where will this go or what will happen if it is, because I'm already days into IYGSH.

I also should add to the journal that the guilt feelings were more about how I am with others and conscious of not doing something with someone else and hurting another feelings but yet my so called friend didn't seem to care that he had connected with others and yet forgot about me.

People seem to base their friendships on popularity and image. that seems to be clear even with this person whom I thought was cool
Day 17 Update concluded...


(06-15-2017, 04:04 AM)Samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-15-2017, 03:59 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon I had an epiphany about myself and guilt today so will clearing guilt as well as other major clearings be in MLS? thanks

It's already been answered. Minimum clearing will be included just to clear the path to achieve the goal. So if guilt is blocking MLS to achieve its goal it will be cleared quickly to achieve the design goal. Most advanced clearing and healing is found in DMSI A.
Day 18 Update - A dream unlike any other

I have to study now, all my friends are saying the remaining exams are passable so I have no choice but to try and sit and study. I therefore cannot say this is IYGSH as yet if I do sit and study as its due to pressure and necessity.

What I do want to share however is a dream, a wonderful romantic dream.

I woke up or rather I got woken up by my mother and the dream left me. I wanted to return to it but I couldnt Sad

I don't know who the woman in the dream is, she isn't someone I know but she is someone I want to know.

In the dream from what I remember, we were in class, and I don't know how but she was sat infront of me and all I remember is that she then leaned onto my chest with the back of her head and my arms were on her and she held them and moved them to her waist and then we kissed, the upside down.

Her lips were tender, her mouth was wet, which is perfect as during the evening I was dehydrated anyway so in this dream she was the perfect moisture that I needed.

She had nothing but love for me and I miss it.

Who was she and why did she come to me in this dream Sad
(06-16-2017, 07:20 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]Day 18 Update - A dream unlike any other

I have to study now, all my friends are saying the remaining exams are passable so I have no choice but to try and sit and study. I therefore cannot say this is IYGSH as yet if I do sit and study as its due to pressure and necessity.

What I do want to share however is a dream, a wonderful romantic dream.

I woke up or rather I got woken up by my mother and the dream left me. I wanted to return to it but I couldnt Sad

I don't know who the woman in the dream is, she isn't someone I know but she is someone I want to know.

In the dream from what I remember, we were in class, and I don't know how but she was sat infront of me and all I remember is that she then leaned onto my chest with the back of her head and my arms were on her and she held them and moved them to her waist and then we kissed, the upside down.

Her lips were tender, her mouth was wet, which is perfect as during the evening I was dehydrated anyway so in this dream she was the perfect moisture that I needed.

She had nothing but love for me and I miss it.

Who was she and why did she come to me in this dream Sad

Reminds me one the dreams I had when I was on sub(Idk which one). But as soon as I woke up I was sad cause I wanted to know her and spend all my life with her... I wish it was real..Too bad we live in this fucked up world where chances of finding anyone like that is absolute zero. Even if I did it's only for short-term and I have long lost pleasure in short-term pleasure. IMO

But won't be surprised if u used IML subs to find her.. Then it surely would change my opinion. But the world doesn't know this so I am gonna live by what I said above.
(06-16-2017, 07:29 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-16-2017, 07:20 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]Day 18 Update - A dream unlike any other

I have to study now, all my friends are saying the remaining exams are passable so I have no choice but to try and sit and study. I therefore cannot say this is IYGSH as yet if I do sit and study as its due to pressure and necessity.

What I do want to share however is a dream, a wonderful romantic dream.

I woke up or rather I got woken up by my mother and the dream left me. I wanted to return to it but I couldnt Sad

I don't know who the woman in the dream is, she isn't someone I know but she is someone I want to know.

In the dream from what I remember, we were in class, and I don't know how but she was sat infront of me and all I remember is that she then leaned onto my chest with the back of her head and my arms were on her and she held them and moved them to her waist and then we kissed, the upside down.

Her lips were tender, her mouth was wet, which is perfect as during the evening I was dehydrated anyway so in this dream she was the perfect moisture that I needed.

She had nothing but love for me and I miss it.

Who was she and why did she come to me in this dream Sad

Reminds me one the dreams I had when I was on sub(Idk which one). But as soon as I woke up I was sad cause I wanted to know her and spend all my life with her... I wish it was real..Too bad we live in this ***** up world where chances of finding anyone like that is absolute zero. Even if I did it's only for short-term and I have long lost pleasure in short-term pleasure. IMO

But won't be surprised if u used IML subs to find her.. Then it surely would change my opinion. But the world doesn't know this so I am gonna live by what I said above.

Ive seen a connection with going to sleep late or tired and getting dreams and I think even when I was on E2 this is what happened rather than it being E2. I just hope I sincerely hope that a sub from here will work on me because this is why I ask so many questions all the time, to either clear my doubts or increase my trust and its saddens me when I then have such an amazing dream and I know it wasnt due to a sub Sad

You know Zane, if IYGSH or MLS 5.5G actually works on me, and continues to work on me until its permanent to my character and personality (that of being a great learner and student) then I will surely use the other subs available at that time to become not only a sexier human being in the eyes of men and women but be able to garner respect from all and most of all attract to me those women that I want and desire.

I am out of shape and my friend has said to me lose weight and you have everything else from personality to character etc all I need is to lose the weight which is great but I want more than just a healthy toned physique, I want to be able to approach and attract that woman I want.

Do you think subs such as DMSI that help you to change as a person to get in our case women help us to also not be sleazy and creepy in their eyes?

going back to my dream....who was she.... I wish I knew her
(06-16-2017, 09:38 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-16-2017, 07:29 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-16-2017, 07:20 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]Day 18 Update - A dream unlike any other

I have to study now, all my friends are saying the remaining exams are passable so I have no choice but to try and sit and study. I therefore cannot say this is IYGSH as yet if I do sit and study as its due to pressure and necessity.

What I do want to share however is a dream, a wonderful romantic dream.

I woke up or rather I got woken up by my mother and the dream left me. I wanted to return to it but I couldnt Sad

I don't know who the woman in the dream is, she isn't someone I know but she is someone I want to know.

In the dream from what I remember, we were in class, and I don't know how but she was sat infront of me and all I remember is that she then leaned onto my chest with the back of her head and my arms were on her and she held them and moved them to her waist and then we kissed, the upside down.

Her lips were tender, her mouth was wet, which is perfect as during the evening I was dehydrated anyway so in this dream she was the perfect moisture that I needed.

She had nothing but love for me and I miss it.

Who was she and why did she come to me in this dream Sad

Reminds me one the dreams I had when I was on sub(Idk which one). But as soon as I woke up I was sad cause I wanted to know her and spend all my life with her... I wish it was real..Too bad we live in this ***** up world where chances of finding anyone like that is absolute zero. Even if I did it's only for short-term and I have long lost pleasure in short-term pleasure. IMO

But won't be surprised if u used IML subs to find her.. Then it surely would change my opinion. But the world doesn't know this so I am gonna live by what I said above.

Ive seen a connection with going to sleep late or tired and getting dreams and I think even when I was on E2 this is what happened rather than it being E2. I just hope I sincerely hope that a sub from here will work on me because this is why I ask so many questions all the time, to either clear my doubts or increase my trust and its saddens me when I then have such an amazing dream and I know it wasnt due to a sub Sad

You know Zane, if IYGSH or MLS 5.5G actually works on me, and continues to work on me until its permanent to my character and personality (that of being a great learner and student) then I will surely use the other subs available at that time to become not only a sexier human being in the eyes of men and women but be able to garner respect from all and most of all attract to me those women that I want and desire.

I am out of shape and my friend has said to me lose weight and you have everything else from personality to character etc all I need is to lose the weight which is great but I want more than just a healthy toned physique, I want to be able to approach and attract that woman I want.

Do you think subs such as DMSI that help you to change as a person to get in our case women help us to also not be sleazy and creepy in their eyes?

going back to my dream....who was she.... I wish I knew her

I am pretty sure DMSI has a lot of potential. It's due due DMSI version Shannon got to Built E2 and MHS-5.5G. I haven't used E2 but MHS-5.5G worked wonders and made my body so tuned that if there is a sight change then I notice it. For example When I take any supplements or any nootropic then before MHS-5.5G my body was crap and it would take months to notice change before I gave up on supplements but now I take it and I can feel its effects with hours.. and that's just after 30 day run only I wonder what will happen if u run for two months or six..

DMSI is still a work in progress and I suggest that u only focus on building ur Cognitive Strength (MLS-5.5G) and Overcoming ur Fears(OF-5G) also Use MHS-5.5G.. When DMSI 6G is released as final then u use it...

My Plan is something similar. I am gonna use DMSI 6G final... but in mean while I am gonna use that time. Listen to other subs. Idc if DMSI 6G comes after 2 years. There are lot of hot girls and they arnt going anywhere and some r in process of becoming "HOT".....

In short..

Fix urself first and then we can screw hot girls later. Lol
(06-16-2017, 09:58 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-16-2017, 09:38 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-16-2017, 07:29 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-16-2017, 07:20 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]Day 18 Update - A dream unlike any other

I have to study now, all my friends are saying the remaining exams are passable so I have no choice but to try and sit and study. I therefore cannot say this is IYGSH as yet if I do sit and study as its due to pressure and necessity.

What I do want to share however is a dream, a wonderful romantic dream.

I woke up or rather I got woken up by my mother and the dream left me. I wanted to return to it but I couldnt Sad

I don't know who the woman in the dream is, she isn't someone I know but she is someone I want to know.

In the dream from what I remember, we were in class, and I don't know how but she was sat infront of me and all I remember is that she then leaned onto my chest with the back of her head and my arms were on her and she held them and moved them to her waist and then we kissed, the upside down.

Her lips were tender, her mouth was wet, which is perfect as during the evening I was dehydrated anyway so in this dream she was the perfect moisture that I needed.

She had nothing but love for me and I miss it.

Who was she and why did she come to me in this dream Sad

Reminds me one the dreams I had when I was on sub(Idk which one). But as soon as I woke up I was sad cause I wanted to know her and spend all my life with her... I wish it was real..Too bad we live in this ***** up world where chances of finding anyone like that is absolute zero. Even if I did it's only for short-term and I have long lost pleasure in short-term pleasure. IMO

But won't be surprised if u used IML subs to find her.. Then it surely would change my opinion. But the world doesn't know this so I am gonna live by what I said above.

Ive seen a connection with going to sleep late or tired and getting dreams and I think even when I was on E2 this is what happened rather than it being E2. I just hope I sincerely hope that a sub from here will work on me because this is why I ask so many questions all the time, to either clear my doubts or increase my trust and its saddens me when I then have such an amazing dream and I know it wasnt due to a sub Sad

You know Zane, if IYGSH or MLS 5.5G actually works on me, and continues to work on me until its permanent to my character and personality (that of being a great learner and student) then I will surely use the other subs available at that time to become not only a sexier human being in the eyes of men and women but be able to garner respect from all and most of all attract to me those women that I want and desire.

I am out of shape and my friend has said to me lose weight and you have everything else from personality to character etc all I need is to lose the weight which is great but I want more than just a healthy toned physique, I want to be able to approach and attract that woman I want.

Do you think subs such as DMSI that help you to change as a person to get in our case women help us to also not be sleazy and creepy in their eyes?

going back to my dream....who was she.... I wish I knew her

I am pretty sure DMSI has a lot of potential. It's due due DMSI version Shannon got to Built E2 and MHS-5.5G. I haven't used E2 but MHS-5.5G worked wonders and made my body so tuned that if there is a sight change then I notice it. For example When I take any supplements or any nootropic then before MHS-5.5G my body was crap and it would take months to notice change before I gave up on supplements but now I take it and I can feel its effects with hours.. and that's just after 30 day run only I wonder what will happen if u run for two months or six..

DMSI is still a work in progress and I suggest that u only focus on building ur Cognitive Strength (MLS-5.5G) and Overcoming ur Fears(OF-5G) also Use MHS-5.5G.. When DMSI 6G is released as final then u use it...

My Plan is something similar. I am gonna use DMSI 6G final... but in mean while I am gonna use that time. Listen to other subs. Idc if DMSI 6G comes after 2 years. There are lot of hot girls and they arnt going anywhere and some r in process of becoming "HOT".....

In short..

Fix urself first and then we can screw hot girls later. Lol

hahaha that last sentence made my day Zane hahah

I believe you are correct as usual!! and that our paths are very much the same or similar.

I also agree that yeah I have to use MLS 5.5G and use it for as long as needed. I know whilst using it I'm going to want to change subs, its natural especially if I don't notice its effects and I know that the subs that will tempt me will be those that are related to my other goals such as body image, esteem, charisma, healing etc etc

BUT I know you are right I will use MLS 5.5G and hope it is enough before I move to another sub.

I do think though that 6G won't arrive before 3 years at the earliest. Often times making a 5.5G version takes time anyway and then I know Shannon said to me that he will stop at 6G and that 6G means finally that there is NO MORE advancement in technology that can be made and thus this means its the most advanced sub he can make right now.

I think this means that 6G, and correct me if I'm wrong, but that 6G will be the sub that overcomes the resistance in people, people such as me, that have noticed nothing from E2. There is a guy here who is on E2, we both know him and he's already seeing its effects clearly but I couldnt.

I know that Shannon has put this down to trauma in my life but I'm sure very sure I have had no trauma that is huge so no idea whats going on there.

Anyway so yeah 6G to work on the likes of me may take 3 years you know so yeah I'm happy to use MLS 5.5G and honestly I really really really really hope it works on me and works on me well.

If it does then finally I will have proof and hope that these subs can work and do work for me.

I think if E2 which is a 5G sub i think. didn't work on me then no other 5G subs can work for me, such as OF.

I know Im using IYGSH 4G but that because its the only sub for my goal that can work until MLS 5.5G comes out. MLS 5G never worked on me either.

I think then if MLS 5.5G does work on me, not only will I know when it starts to work, such as for example it may take 3months of listening before I change so I know 3months is the minimum time frame for me but then it will mean that all subs after this version are the subs that can work for me.

Thats why I'm now a little dubious of trying any other subs pre-MLS 5.5G.

I know so many here have qualms about the length of my queries or my constant questioning but when you've been here 2 years and have had no success not even a little change, then this is what happens. All I can do is wait, be patient and have hope.

It does make me wonder though why other sub companies claim theirs to work with testimonials when they clearly are at a lower technology which is perhaps equivalent to a 1G or 2G sub here and yet even at 5G there is still issues. I don't understand this at all but I still am here with hope.
omg this is so amazing people....... Smile)))



(06-15-2017, 07:20 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]What one believes in is irrelevant outside of how it artificially limits you or how it frees you.

We don't have definitive ways of proving a lot of things yet, but we are coming up quickly on new ways to explore a lot of things.

Whether or not you believe in past lives is immaterial if they are real. And while it might be genetic, past lives, or a number of other things, and we can all form our various opinions of them based on our own research, experiences, and in some cases fears, we are going to have to consider all of the options if we are going to figure out how to get done with these apparently endless cycles of healing, clearing and resistance.

In the next release of DMSI, I will be taking the healing to the furthest extent I currently know how, including opening it up for dealing with genetic causes and past life causes if those turn out to exist.

One way or the other, there's got to be a way to get done with this crap.
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