Subliminal Talk

Oh, you mean, you're not executing. Gotcha.

I think food plays a big part. I added another shake to my daily food yesterday and had crazy heat/aura projection immediately afterward. Maybe you're not eating enough Swiss.

(05-14-2017, 11:51 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]I think food plays a big part. I added another shake to my daily food yesterday and had crazy heat/aura projection immediately afterward. Maybe you're not eating enough Swiss.

Even when I over eat it doesn't seem to trigger aything that I can notice.

(05-14-2017, 11:11 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Oh, you mean, you're not executing. Gotcha.

I take your point

The problem is that I don't feel like it is within my power to choose to or not. Consciously I would choose to execute immediately. I just don't know how to get my subconscious to comply.

I was thinking of taking a break and using MHS for a few weeks until 3.2 comes out... but now I don't know if that's just resistance or not.

I might switch at least to just running A, rather than alternating between the two - doesn't seem to be making much difference and I guess I still need the healing?

Sometimes I think that I am mostly healed and just need to execute... but then I remember that I am still:

- getting obsessive about certain unavailable women
- trying to put myself around women, rather than letting them come to me
- getting stuck in my head instead of just enjoying myself
- in a relationship and conditioned not to hurt her

If I could just get some small starts of the aura, I would be happy for now and it would give me something to work with.

(05-15-2017, 12:41 AM)swisston Wrote: [ -> ]The problem is that I don't feel like it is within my power to choose to or not. Consciously I would choose to execute immediately. I just don't know how to get my subconscious to comply.

If I could just get some small starts of the aura, I would be happy for now and it would give me something to work with.

I struggle with both of these often, too. We don't seem to have some magical switch to hit consciously to make it work, or all these versions wouldn't have been necessary. Seeing some clear signs of life externally would make it so much easier, I've said that too. But we have to take what we can get now, I guess. But I will say though, your girlfriend specifically saying what she said, shows the aura is projecting, and reaching her and she's verbally responding to it to you. So, you're getting more success than you realise. I haven't experienced that level of blatant feedback, kudos.

I personally, just committed to Version A. I figure the clearing and healing in it, can at least possibly help pave the way to make V3.2 work down the road, and maybe have indirect positive effects to your life elsewhere. It may be a better use of time, rather than using B now and expecting more than you can get from it at present, or trying to alternate.

You aren't alone with this, Swisston. You and I may be two of the last to hit design goal performance or even close to it, if we do at all. But, you ARE getting external effects though, the interaction with your GF shows it. It's probably just a matter of time, and what version will be enough to break the dam .

I do think that once it starts, it's going to work big time. I know that Shannon thinks that I am a slow changer, but when that change happens, it happens fast for me. I have made major life switches in the past and actually consider my adaptability to be one of my strengths.

The thing here is that it doesn't feel like a decision or something that I am choosing - it feels out of my control.

(05-15-2017, 01:25 AM)swisston Wrote: [ -> ]I do think that once it starts, it's going to work big time. I know that Shannon thinks that I am a slow changer, but when that change happens, it happens fast for me. I have made major life switches in the past and actually consider my adaptability to be one of my strengths.

The thing here is that it doesn't feel like a decision or something that I am choosing - it feels out of my control.

That in itself is a sort of resistance because you feel it out of being out of your control, you don't necessarily take steps to make it more possible for you to execute the script. The subconscious is a part of yourself and therefore you have control over it, but it's not in the same way in which you can "decide" to raise your arm right now.

(05-15-2017, 01:25 AM)swisston Wrote: [ -> ]I do think that once it starts, it's going to work big time. I know that Shannon thinks that I am a slow changer, but when that change happens, it happens fast for me. I have made major life switches in the past and actually consider my adaptability to be one of my strengths.

The thing here is that it doesn't feel like a decision or something that I am choosing - it feels out of my control.

I know, mate! It feels out of my control too. It's somewhat annoyed me in the past when it seemed like "well, it's easy to get results, just stop resisting", lol. To me, it's like saying to someone else, "it's easy to be a millionaire, just have 1 million dollars", haha. Easier said than done, and oversimplifies it a bit.

With what is being proposed for V3.2, two things in particular, the new classification for anything other then execution, as self sabotage and resistance now, to then be filtered into the ASS/ART for processing. And not allowing deviation/subversion of that like what can happen now when some of our minds play "lawyer games" with the script, lol. As well as not allowing the self sabotage of blinding yourself to results happening to allow for you to resist the change in the sub, or even to give justification to quitting, should help both of us a lot. Those, along side lots of other changes, and the usual 2-3X strengthening. It'll be a big step forward, I'm sure. I wrote that big post awhile ago about the problem areas I identified on this program. And it was awesome to hear Shannon already had plans to implement most of them. And found the others useful. So, for me personally, V3.2 should be a big step forward then, as many of those issues, if not all, could be vanquished, so I'm expecting a big change for me next version, given that. I remember you and I found a commonality there too in a problem area, excellent. I highlighted that for Shannon in a separate post, and he was right on the ball. So we may get there soon. Remember though, even now, you are getting clear external signs from women, due to what your girlfriend said. So, it's working now for you. It'll only get easier and more obvious in time then. Me? I still need that moment like yours, we'll see when it comes.

I'm not stonewalling either anymore, by definition, because I wouldn't have at LEAST gotten the internal benefits so far. So we're both seeing something, different kinds of results, one internal, one internal AND external, but something.

He said for me, it's likely just a case of the dam holding it all back, until BOOM, a flood of results big time all at once when it breaks through the wall. I understand the thinking, I don't think it can go on forever like this, sooner or later it has to give out. I agree with that, makes sense, and figure it'll be the same for you, too, given that you're even getting clear external results. Neither of us are stonewalling . I'm not sure anyone is anymore in fact.

Just remember, you are getting internal AND external results. You aren't Thomas Jonathan Jackson anymore, hahaha . Matter of time now...

I am pleased with the internal changes for myself too. It's why I started running DMSI in the first place. I wanted to get out of my own head, stop using fantasy/porn/non-nudes for gratification, stop feeling needy around women etc. And some of that has changed, hopefully permanently.

It's slightly crazy how insecure I sometimes feel socially, especially at work. I'm decent looking, affable, confident, I run classes without any worries, I manage people and help with life coaching and personal training on a daily basis; I have no reason to feel insecure. It's still related to childhood though - never quite being one of the popular kids and feeling like a lesser person because of it.

I think that is the root of my need to feel special with women. It's not about sexual conquest for me, it's about being important to them and significant in their lives. Somehow that has become confusingly conflated with sexual stuff. I'm not 100% sure what kind of validation I am seeking there.

(05-15-2017, 02:12 AM)swisston Wrote: [ -> ]I am pleased with the internal changes for myself too. It's why I started running DMSI in the first place. I wanted to get out of my own head, stop using fantasy/porn/non-nudes for gratification, stop feeling needy around women etc. And some of that has changed, hopefully permanently.

It's slightly crazy how insecure I sometimes feel socially, especially at work. I'm decent looking, affable, confident, I run classes without any worries, I manage people and help with life coaching and personal training on a daily basis; I have no reason to feel insecure. It's still related to childhood though - never quite being one of the popular kids and feeling like a lesser person because of it.

I think that is the root of my need to feel special with women. It's not about sexual conquest for me, it's about being important to them and significant in their lives. Somehow that has become confusingly conflated with sexual stuff. I'm not 100% sure what kind of validation I am seeking there.

I hear you on the first part. I'm an amazing guy, I KNOW I am...but yet, I still feel nervous around T and others, like they're vastly above me in value, when it's SHE/THEM who should feel nervous around ME, if anything! It's totally backwards! It's my screwed up, horrifying experiences when young that screwed my mind up, too. And remember, you may be feeling randomly insecure because the sub is touching on something and there's that resistance push back. So that feeling of awkwardness, or back and forth, may be this phenomenon going on, before a full change over can occur. And/or that thing mentioned about the mind refusing to see progress, to make sure it stays in it's homeostatis, which will be addressed in V3.2.

And the quoted part above in the end...is likely the reason I'm running this too. Amazing post, that we are similar in this regard as well, wow! I've never had power or choice with women, quite the opposite in fact. I just want power and choice with women I never had any with. The whole sex thing is beside the point for me I think I don't really think about it. And it doesn't seem to be nearly as big a focus to me, or seems too distant to focus on, I don't know. I just want to no longer feel they are beyond my reach and in a position of having no power or choice in my dealings with them. It's a bit tough to describe for me too, a bit confusing even. I do also struggle with WHY I'm actually running it, and have come to the possible conclusion I'm running it simply to have power and choice finally in my life with women, not really to "bang 100 hot chicks" or whatever. Much deeper than that.

(05-15-2017, 02:12 AM)swisston Wrote: [ -> ]I am pleased with the internal changes for myself too. It's why I started running DMSI in the first place. I wanted to get out of my own head, stop using fantasy/porn/non-nudes for gratification, stop feeling needy around women etc. And some of that has changed, hopefully permanently.

It's slightly crazy how insecure I sometimes feel socially, especially at work. I'm decent looking, affable, confident, I run classes without any worries, I manage people and help with life coaching and personal training on a daily basis; I have no reason to feel insecure. It's still related to childhood though - never quite being one of the popular kids and feeling like a lesser person because of it.

I think that is the root of my need to feel special with women. It's not about sexual conquest for me, it's about being important to them and significant in their lives. Somehow that has become confusingly conflated with sexual stuff. I'm not 100% sure what kind of validation I am seeking there.

My experiences mirror yours in a surprisingly significant amount of ways.

Well men, looks like we found a pattern as I too can relate to your posts. Maybe Shannon will see this and add something to 3.2 that directly addresses this.

(05-15-2017, 02:25 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-15-2017, 02:12 AM)swisston Wrote: [ -> ]I am pleased with the internal changes for myself too. It's why I started running DMSI in the first place. I wanted to get out of my own head, stop using fantasy/porn/non-nudes for gratification, stop feeling needy around women etc. And some of that has changed, hopefully permanently.

It's slightly crazy how insecure I sometimes feel socially, especially at work. I'm decent looking, affable, confident, I run classes without any worries, I manage people and help with life coaching and personal training on a daily basis; I have no reason to feel insecure. It's still related to childhood though - never quite being one of the popular kids and feeling like a lesser person because of it.

I think that is the root of my need to feel special with women. It's not about sexual conquest for me, it's about being important to them and significant in their lives. Somehow that has become confusingly conflated with sexual stuff. I'm not 100% sure what kind of validation I am seeking there.

I hear you on the first part. I'm an amazing guy, I KNOW I am...but yet, I still feel nervous around T and others, like they're vastly above me in value, when it's SHE/THEM who should feel nervous around ME, if anything! It's totally backwards! It's my screwed up, horrifying experiences when young that screwed my mind up, too. And remember, you may be feeling randomly insecure because the sub is touching on something and there's that resistance push back. So that feeling of awkwardness, or back and forth, may be this phenomenon going on, before a full change over can occur. And/or that thing mentioned about the mind refusing to see progress, to make sure it stays in it's homeostatis, which will be addressed in V3.2.

And the quoted part above in the end...is likely the reason I'm running this too. Amazing post, that we are similar in this regard as well, wow! I've never had power or choice with women, quite the opposite in fact. I just want power and choice with women I never had any with. The whole sex thing is beside the point for me I think I don't really think about it. And it doesn't seem to be nearly as big a focus to me, or seems too distant to focus on, I don't know. I just want to no longer feel they are beyond my reach and in a position of having no power or choice in my dealings with them. It's a bit tough to describe for me too, a bit confusing even. I do also struggle with WHY I'm actually running it, and have come to the possible conclusion I'm running it simply to have power and choice finally in my life with women, not really to "bang 100 hot chicks" or whatever. Much deeper than that.

This is why I'm running it. And the skeleton script is helping me greatly.

What's the skeleton script?