Quote:Or if someone were to use those two back to back for 6 months. Maybe 12 months would be required?
That's exactly what I plan on doing. Alpha set for the full six months followed by six months of Women Magnet, then back onto the Alpha set.
It strikes me as odd that some people can be so sceptical about subliminals. To me it's seems completley logical and rational that they
could at least work, and the effort to try them is pretty much negligible, "press play and see for yourself." how hard can that be?
I've been doing some reminiscing this morning, and it's only when doing so I realise the Alpha sub has taken me up and beyond what I could've expected it to. There has been a lot of positive change, Thanks again for creating theses sub's Shannon.
Quote:I've got about 3 months until the new school year starts for college and I want to make this summer the most productive one possible. That's why I want to take out time now to work on myself and take the necessary steps to continue evolving so that when I return to school I'll be a much improved individual.
That's a great attitude you have, that unfortunately not enough other people have. I definitely expect you to be a much improved person in 3 months time with that sort of determination.
I have concluded that there are two types of skepticism. There's... let's call it "Type A", which is basically intended to prevent the person from believing what is not true. It's balanced, and bends to reasonable evidence. Then there's "Type B", which is a mask for fear of the unknown. It is rigid, and never bends without a consensus from the herd. Type B skepticism is what you see from "The Amazing" Randi. It doesn't want to be wrong, and it rejects everything without any intention of ever being wrong.
Skepticism - true skepticism - is a good thing, and is frequently shown to be in error. As the facts present themselves, it is adjusted to fit them. Type B skepticism is a defense, as I said, against the frightening "unknown". Because that fear does not go away without being forced to deal with the unknown, and the unknown is what is being hidden from, this type of skepticism invents all manner of defenses and "reasons" why rejection of alternate options should continue. Rigidity and lack of change is its hallmark. Change is scary. Amusingly, there is no end to the logical fallacies this type of skepticism relies on, all the while claiming that whatever is being rejected is committing the same errors. Whether or not the subject actually does commit the same errors, unchanging rejection is not skepticism. It's fear, masquerading as a legitimate expression of skepticism.
People like you and I, we approach, conclude that something seems hard to believe, and then begin experimenting with it. Can it work? Does it work? What happens when I do this? And this? And this? How do I explain the results? Is it reasonable to say that there has been a change? How do I explain that change, both for and against? Can it be explained in other ways? How does this play out over time?
In other words, we are open minded. We are trying to find an answer to our question... not a question to fit our preconceived answer.
Part of why I wanted this forum was as an experimental test bed. If my subliminals can do well here on a public forum, where people can report their experiences without me changing what they say, then I will have the confidence to invest a lot of money doing formal research studies down the line, when I have the money.
The heightened effects of Stage 5 are continuing.
I'll try and find my exact time of birth tomorrow when I see my mum. She should have my birth certificate somewhere, although I'm not sure if it will have the exact time on it.
Anyway, a few hours ago I did the Stage 7 of the meditation kit. I'm not sure whether or not I should be listening to subliminals at the same time, but I did have the Alpha set playing through my stereo in the background. Next time I'll try it without any subliminals. After 10 or 15 minutes I noticed I was completely void of incessant thinking. I was very clear minded. I could think on demand if I wanted too, but I didn't particular want to. Thinking wasn't of much interest. The hour definitely passed by quicker than I expected it too - without constant mind chatter I guess the feeling of passing time is blurred. I felt time but more casually than usual, it felt slower. I wasn't impatient, I was very happy to lie there for the entire hour without getting bored. I could never normally spend that amount of time in that situation without giving up and doing something to occupy me.
I drifted between being alert to sleepy, to suddenly alert again. I could often feel sleep sucking me in, and usually when this happens it's very hard to resist and pull back out, it normally takes a lot of energy but the snap back to alert was effortless. I find focusing on meditation for a full hour quite difficult usually, and lying down doesn't help much either, so I wasn't to surprised to feel sleepy at times. After finishing, standing up was a little disorientating but I felt very refreshed, clear minded and alert. Stage 7 definitely brought about a different experience to usual, every day experience. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I doubt I'll be able to fit a full hours worth of mediation into every single day but I'm going to try my best to get a few sessions in every week.
Stage 5 has once again proved to be relentless. Since dropping Aura of Sexiness I've felt nothing but continuous self confidence. No blip, no nothing, just persistent, palpable self confidence.
Hey Wildflower, I'm glad you like level 7! I tested it out this morning and it was a good experience. The thing I like about the Meditation kit is that after each session I feel much smarter. I find that my memory is better and I'm able to think more logically.
I'm going to try to keep using this alongside my subs to help keep the resistance away. I'm sure if u keep Meditating with the Alpha Set you'll continue getting great results. Level 4 is a good setting to, you'll have more control at that setting.
Saturday night I was watched the England vs the USA game. I don't like football much, and I'm not at all patriotic, so to see the mistake the keeper made at least made an otherwise unenjoyable 90 minutes pretty funny. During the hour and a half the game was on I had 14 missed calls FOURTEEN, within the space of 90 minutes. It was a female friend of mine who hadn't seen me in a month or two and she wanted to meet up. An hour after the game and 4 phone calls later I said I'd meet up with her in a bit when I get near town.
When I finally met up with her, there was a lot of kino and within 20 minutes she was kissing me more passionately than I have ever been kissed before followed by the repeated line "I really like you". Another 20 minutes later and I get the line "your house or mine", I told her hers and we went back to hers. We head straight to the bedroom, and again lots of the craziest kissing ever. I wasn't being pushy at all, hadn't pursued any of what was happening, and wasn't physically escalating then I was hit with the line "let's not go any further, I don't want to ruin what we have between us", she rolled over and wanted me to cuddle her.
True anti slut defence. She had initiated contact with a ridiculous amount of phone calls, initiated the sexual frame, started kino, lingered around my face for a kiss, decided to take me back to her house, but she didn't want to have sex and framed it as if I was the one pursuing her after she had made every step. When really she didn't want to have sex with me because, I haven't chased her or made her feel qualified. She wants to hold out to sort of bribe me into a relationship which she currently feels I don't want. And she's right, I don't want it.
Having girls become so overly interested in me as a man, a boyfriend, a keeper, is still relatively new territory for me, and over the five months this change has happened, I haven't yet found a way to deal with it in a way to avoid hurting anyone's feelings. I didn't chase her, because while I find her attractive, I don't want to use her or anyone else just for sex when I don't find then appealing in a relationship way. And prior to Saturday night I didn't know she was that into me anyway - I'll definitely have to try and cool her down a bit now.
I can attract (in a different way) like any bad boy, Casanova or player can, but I'm not heartless enough to hurt anyone out of selfishness. When one receives power, I suppose it's only natural that there is always going to be a few teething problems as they come to terms with it. The Alpha sub has made me able to chase if I want to; I can approach pretty much anyone I want to now. The reason I was so laid-back and let her make all the moves was because I wanted it to be on her terms, but her terms (a relationship) were not something I could offer her. Anything not on her terms would have been unfair on her and hurt her. If her terms where 'just sex', I would've had sex with her, but I couldn't have sex with her knowing that she was expecting a long term commitment. I waited till she fell to sleep then left and sent her a text saying I felt uncomfortable. Not something I'm proud of at all, but like I said this power is something I'm still coming to terms with. Like they say you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet, step on a few toes on the way up the ladder, etc.
I've decided I want a relationship now, and I want it with Mrs. Right. I'm confident I'll find her soon, not that I'm looking.
@WildFlower-Great story man! I know what you mean about hurting girl's feelings. The girl that I'm seeing wants a relationship out of me and I won't do it so I feel bad at times but I was completely honest and told her straight up, I want to be single and fool around with you only (I just don't have an emotional connection to her). And she was 100% ok with it, well maybe 80%, she still wants a relationship but she doesn't want to loose what we have either, she loves the sex and really loves being with me. Honesty is key! Tell her straight up, you don't want something serious right now, tell her what you really want. As in, dating other girls, having sex with girls, 1 steady relationship, know exactly what you want and be honest with her
And from the sound of it, she's trying too hard to get you.
You now what burns me? Women who blatantly lead a man on, and then shut him down...
and especially the ones who complain if we do the same to them. God help a man who gets HER hot and bothered and then says no, let's just cuddle... but if she does it, it's supposed to be respected because "no means no". Okay, fine, no means no, and here's my answer for you, lady: No more chances to lead me on. Ever. I hate double standards.
I think, though, that you should have told her what she told you. That would have framed it as in, you have self control, and she can't just manipulate you by leading you on. As in, she can't control you with your wang.
I just said I hate double standards, and yet I'm advocating you do what she did?
Yes, because that's what she wanted from you. That was a shit test. How much can she control you with sex to get you to do what she wants?
I have dealt with that before, my friend. When a woman is moving that fast, you tell her no. If she wants it, she'll wait. And she'll gladly wait, because you're not just like every other penis on legs. Knowing when to tell a woman no is the most powerful thing you can learn in life, according to some.
Had that happened to me, I'd have told her no, she can't just have sex with me, I'm not a piece of meat. But, had I gone along with her little ploy regardless, I'd have laughed when she pulled the ASD out and started wanting to snuggle. I'd have said, "What? False advertising? You know that shit is illegal, right?" and then I'd have had to demonstrate how easily manipulated I am by decidedly losing interest in her. I don't like it when women try to manipulate me to get what they want.
DHV. Self respect. Self control. Know when she's pulling a shit test on you, and shut HER down. That's how you get the girl.
And by being deadly honest. A man sometimes has to make hard choices, and feelings sometimes get hurt. Don't go out of your way to hurt them - but also don't lose backbone to save them, either. Especially if she basically lied to you by telling you she wanted X and then pulling bait and switch BS at the last minute.
Which she did because you failed her shit test, btw. And if you cuddled with her, you really failed.
Cuddling is great, but doing it after that happened was rewarding her for lying to you - and that is a bad move. Never let a woman lead you on, deceive, lie, or cheat on you without making her pay the consequences. (My favorite consequences to instantiate in such situations is: I simply do not deal with her anymore. At all, if possible.)
Leading a man on is lying. Intentional deception. And it will keep happening as long as you allow it. Don't allow it. You should be the one who decides when you have sex, not her. That's not to say you should force a woman, but that it shouldn't be east to manipulate you through sex or anything else. Self control.
(06-16-2010, 10:10 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Leading a man on is lying. Intentional deception. And it will keep happening as long as you allow it. Don't allow it. You should be the one who decides when you have sex, not her. That's not to say you should force a woman, but that it shouldn't be east to manipulate you through sex or anything else. Self control.
Well said. Lead Lead Lead. Never lose control.
I definitely didn't cuddle. When she said she didn't want to ruin anything between us, I distanced myself as far from on her on the bed as I could (why would friends want to sleep so close anyway?) and waited till she fell asleep and took of. I'm really not affecting by her actions at all. I'm not offended by her, she doesn't interest me. Drama bores me - if someone wants to manipulate me they have to first not bore me. Not that I can be easily manipulated in my social world anyway now. In many ways I feel to un-manipulable. Imagine a perfect, glossy surface. Nothing can stick or grab hold of a smooth, frictionless surface, where as a rough surface with sharp edges and spikes can - to various degrees of ease, depending on the roughness and cracks - be held on to. I think I need to give people a little more to hold onto. At the moment though I'm concentrating on myself till the end of stage 6, and only when I get on women magnet will I be concerned with being able to offer myself to people and give them more chance to hang onto me a little.
I'm on day 3 of stage 6 now and the alpha effects are absolutely in full swing. My sense of self in not dependant on my well being - for the past two weeks I've felt absolutely untouchable apart from a few days in the middle of it where a family issue outside of my control (Gran not so well) brought me down. Events which effect my mood, in the old days could entice me into negative thinking and my confidence would take a dip for a bit. Not any more though, as my confidence remains independent of moods or external situations. So whilst moods can come, fluctuate for a bit and then go, my overall state of confidence is uneffected, not dependant or concerned with any external event. I'm healthy.
I've been enjoying the Gamma track at the moment, listening to it on my dinner break whilst I'm at work. It allows me to do eyes closed mindfulness without loosing the ability for lucid watching of my thoughts, as oppose to becoming lost in them and a bit sleepy. I suppose it's because with several minutes with your eyes closed your brain naturally adjusts to Alpha brain waves making you a bit sleepy and unaware. The gamma allows me to stay incredibly focused whilst deeply meditating.
Last night I tried the delta track and at some point between 30 and 40 minutes in I totally fell asleep. I can't even remember at what point I fell asleep, all I know is one minute I was awake and the next thing I'm awake again. God knows what happened in-between. Before falling asleep I had the incredible power to pull old thoughts and memories up and observe them. I had read delta allows access to the subconscious mind but I didn't take those statements to seriously. I was wrong though, I definitely was more in touch with the core of my operating system.
I listened to the Alpha, earth frequency track today with not much to report other than a complete inability to focus on reading or typing. It was pleasant though.
I had my first ever lucid dream last night and it came from nowhere. It was completely strange as well - I was in a field with my dog, and I was also a dog that looked just like my dog, and basically we just ran around together for a bit haha. I was very self aware during this dream and I had complete control of what I wanted to do. Eventually I saw a snail and I don't like snails much so I made it go away, but it kept coming back again so I woke myself up. This was totally bizarre. I've never experienced anything close to a lucid dream before. I know some people use Binaural beats for this kind of thing, but it has never interested me to much. I can only assume this is the result of listening to Shannons brainwave entrainment stuff but I have on idea what frequency would have caused it.
I need to know more about what you used and when, because my current lucid dreaming program is not making me happy. I need to revise it, I think.
(06-24-2010, 01:04 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I need to know more about what you used and when, because my current lucid dreaming program is not making me happy. I need to revise it, I think.
I didn't use anything anywhere near the time I went to bed, it just happened out the blue. I have a theory that it may be down to the Gamma track which I have been listening to about twice per day through out the day (usually earlier on) I know it has increased my ability to stay far more alert during eyes closed mediation. I'm assuming the meditation brings me from predominately beta to alpha brain waves, but the Gamma allows me to stay alert and not lose myself in the loss of concious awareness. If it wasn't the Gamma it could be me building up stamina to the Theta and Delta tracks, but I haven't been listening to them anywhere near as much.
I need to know more about what you used and when, because my current lucid dreaming program is not making me happy. I need to revise it, I think.(Shannon Quotes)
Shannon,might that also include revising "Dream Your Best Solution" as well? when you get the time that is? Keith.