Subliminal Talk

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(03-15-2015, 01:56 AM)Ricardo Wrote: [ -> ]Stage 2 day 4

Thought I'd give a brief update on initial responses to this stage.
Firstly my sex drive has gone right down. Since about December when I was on stage 5 of AM I have been struggling to not feel sexy and keep the woodpecker down. Now since the start of stage 2 WM it's all left me and I hardly feel sexy at all. I also feel a lot less needy and indifferent to women in general right now. That earlier emotional phase seems to have pretty much gone as well.

Secondly, I've noticed that I'm becoming short tempered and resentful almost of my current lifestyle. It's too restrictive in that I don't really go out to decent places but rather stick to the same venues and ultimately the same people. I'm getting bad tempered because of my limited lifestyle and the people in my circle. There's a whole world out there and I'm just not experiencing it:@:@
I really want to go to different places and move in different circles, make new friends and acquaintances who will have a positive impact on my life rather than ones that just make me lazy and tired....

..and I thought WM was going to be bliss

To me...it isn't resistance at ALL...it's quite the opposite...

It's proof the sub is indeed working properly and making you view your life and situation and getting you to realise it isn't fulfilling you and that you need to expand your horizons. Either magnet is bound to make huge changes in the average man's life so I wouldn't call either bliss, not until they're done and accepted 100% and you're living the bulletpoints that is haha.

Remember what Shannon says, first a sub changes your subconscious, then the subconscious seeks to make REAL what it is being programmed with. So, these negative feelings are great, it means you're starting to accept the program and are starting to see your life is in need of an overhaul and that it isn't meeting your wants and needs and that it needs to be changed.

All of this is to be expected as a part of the rebuilding process. Keep them hours up and push on! The night's always darkest before the dawn.

I find your comments very encouraging CatMan

It makes sense that the sub is forcing me to take note but it could be resistance from my mind trying to hang on to the old crap lifestyle it yearns so much for. I find it strange that our minds try to keep us miserable when that's not a healthy state for them. I wonder why that is

(03-16-2015, 02:20 PM)Ricardo Wrote: [ -> ]I find your comments very encouraging CatMan

It makes sense that the sub is forcing me to take note but it could be resistance from my mind trying to hang on to the old crap lifestyle it yearns so much for. I find it strange that our minds try to keep us miserable when that's not a healthy state for them. I wonder why that is

It isn't your mind forcing you to be miserable, it's the sub reprogramming your mind and that new programming is finding your current situation untenable, as it should, as that's the only way to change.

It isn't resistance. Merely you realising through the sub's help that this current life doesn't fit a woman magnet...soon, changes will start being made to address this issue. Soon, you'll go from fighting relegation to the Championship, to fighting to win the Premier League and a guaranteed spot for Champions League football.

Stage 2 Day 8

Well I'm starting to feel a lot better now than at the start of this stage. Rather than just keep wailing on I sat myself down and analysed why I felt like this. There was no other conclusion except that I am a dreamer, a romanticist that spends a lot of time daydreaming good things in my life and not actually facing the harsh realities that you really need to put yourself out there and make things happen, not just think they will of their own accord. This is how I've gone for so many years without a love life, because I always believed it would fall in my lap at the right time. I didn't actually try to chat up or date anyone but had this sort of mañana attitude that I would do exactly that some time in the future and so nothing I wanted was ever going to happen! I had built up scenarios that would happen of their own accord in time and of course I was completely wrong. I think WM has shown me this in a way
that AM didn't and all that horrible heartbreak feeling has now gone.

I'm walking confidently and feeling real good

I've also ditched the Cambogia pills and am going for the Whey powder and
weights way of doing things. Started today and can really recommend the
chocolate flavours!

Stage 2 Day 20

Just a small update...

I have now recovered from the misery I felt earlier and I feel fine. I still have dreams
about women and I'm getting 11+ hours a day of listening to the sub. I feel when I go out that I have an 'unfair advantage' over other men but it hasn't translated into anything meaningful happening. I do get a few sly looks from the barmaids and they also treat me with respect as do female checkout staff in shops..blokes have become very talkative to me as well

On another note the weights and whey powder are making some noticeable
gains on my body. There's still a way to go but I can already see some good
definition beginning to come through. I reckon another 6 months will do it

I must admit though that I'm getting a bit negative in my mind regarding this sub.

When I first started I was excitement personified and now I'm just 'yeah ok'

I've been folowing Darth's WM journal and can see my results going the same
way. I was hoping by now that I would see some real tangible unmistakable
results rather than just the 'looks' and 'respect' treatment I get which may even
be down to retail staff being told to be extra nice to customers

I have however started keeping my place clean and this was another thing touched
upon in AM which I''m doing more now, in case I want to bring a woman back. Both
the cleaning and the body building have become like a vendetta to me that I won't
be beaten on (give up).I've also put down a deposit on a new (Opel) Astra GTC (2.0 CDTi), which is a bit boy racer..ish for a man of my years but it's brand new and should help me attract women..maybe. If not at least I can have some fun

As Darth said it's stage 5 that sees the coming together of everything but to be
honest the way I feel, I think we'll have more success finding Jimmy Hoffa than
gaining a never ending succession of beautiful single women to toy with

Yep, I definitely feel ya. In the more earlier stages (up until now actually) I started feeling like I wanted to drop this sub and do something else honestly. I especially felt like that towards the end of Stage one when I found out about how OE works and that it wasn't in WM2. I think it was also for the fact that I felt WM just didn't produce as much change as AM6 did for me. Most of the program has felt more like minor "tweaks" to my personality then actual deep change. I only had hope because I read in Enoch's testimonial that he had gone through the exact same in the earlier stages and started getting more interest from women in stage 5. We will see how it pans out when I start Stage 5 in about a week. Though if I don't get any results with women by the end of the set I will probably either ask for a refund or see if I can trade it for SM3.0. Won't be able to tell if this was worth it until the end of the set though.

Yes the OE thing annoyed me somewhat until I read that Shannon had written that there's so much in wm2 that it doesn't need OE! (thanks to GlaizenGold777 for the notes threads) I do feel that it doesn't really matter if I play the sub or not as there aren't any real results other than dreams or feelings. Although if these are new things, then they should be reported if you do a journal, but I know that readers want to read about all the women flocking to you like flies round a cow-cake. Perhaps I'm reading too much into everything and my 'results' so far, to a sceptic, would be a combination of normal life and placebo.

After this run I'll do one of the following. If it works I will run it again. If not it will have to be AM6 then try WM. As for AYP Wealthy lover, that's looking a long way off

Never underestimate the Naturalizer. I'm betting you've had a ton of changes, ones you may not even know about. So stop being so hard on yourself, wanting massive change so fast. I'm sure by the end, you'll be amazed at the change in yourself. They're six month programs for a reason.

On the Naturalizer, that thing took away a habit I've had for 20 years, and I NEVER even noticed until I read another journal where a guy with the same habit talked about how the Naturalizer killed it. I couldn't believe it...change of that level, happened right under my nose and was so effective I didn't even REALISE it...

I'm starting SM3 in a few weeks and will be avidly documenting it as well. So that should help you see what it's all about beforehand.

Stage 2 Day 32

Well the last day of stage 2 and it's felt like I've been doing this stage for months! For the most part I've had a lot of frustrations and sexual desires with no outlet. I have been in a bad mood throughout a lot of it. A common question is "why people tend to vanish and not finish their journals when they do a magnet?". I've thought about that and as far as I can say based on my own feelings is that these things begin to feel like a waste of time when I could be doing other things. Also I don't have much desire to read other journals unless they are WM ones (or another sub
I would be using in the future) so I tend to log on very little unless a WM journal
has been updated, otherwise I really can't be bothered. I apologise if that sounds selfish but it's how I feel and I want to be as open and as accurate as possible in my journals about how I'm affected. This may well be the reason that people do disappear for a long time, there's better things to do than read forums!

As I said before I suffered a lot of frustrations and have been pretty much in a bad temper throughout. I still feel that to a point, but it isn't so bad now. What I have noticed towards the end of this stage, is that my neediness levels have really gone down, as has my interest in porn. Porn doesn't cut it with me because I find it boring and totally unsexy. As I like emotions and fun in my love life, internet porn is so far
removed from that, I just don't want to watch it. I much prefer just admiring
beautiful women on YouTube or something like that.

It's been difficult to see if there is any real attraction shown by women. Sometimes
there seems to be, like side glances or inquisitive stares and other times
nothing. It may be that the are beautiful but they're not single! However the
quality of women showing an interest in me on the online dating stuff has gone
up slightly and the ages are approaching my preferred ones, although they're still
not really attractive to me and I'm not wasting my time on any women unless
she hits that "ooh baby" spot within me.I mentioned before that I've only met
a small number of women in my entire life who hit that spot and although all but one were taken I did have an amazing time with the last, so I know how it can be and the women online are not in that league.

I've also become a bit of an obsessive over cleanliness and am cleaning my flat
almost every day when before it would go for weeks until I had the landlord
coming round to do his checks then I would have to spend a week cleaning it
all up! Now it's always ready for inspection!

Oh well onto stage 3 tomorrow..ho hum

Ya know, I went through pretty much the exact same thing through stage two, except for the anger and cleanliness thing. Even though my sex drive is through the roof now I'm getting to a point where porn doesn't really fill any need now, I much rather have a real woman in my life at the moment. Only thing is that even though I'm getting out there and going to social events occasionally, I'm not really seeing much as far as women is concerned. I've even tried online dating on the side and Tinder and got "zilch" so far. Even though I'm doing all this I feel this kinda of real "want" for a lot of women in my life but at the same time not needy about it.

As for the not posting thing, I I've been feeling that for a while now. Not only do I find myself not wanting to post as much but just reading the forum in general. Its like a attitude of "why read about other people's success when I can be out there creating my own"? Anyway, I hope you do well during stage 3, that one was a pain in the @ss for me. It got me too emotional in my opinion.

(04-12-2015, 01:55 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]Ya know, I went through pretty much the exact same thing through stage two, except for the anger and cleanliness thing. Even though my sex drive is through the roof now I'm getting to a point where porn doesn't really fill any need now, I much rather have a real woman in my life at the moment. Only thing is that even though I'm getting out there and going to social events occasionally, I'm not really seeing much as far as women is concerned. I've even tried online dating on the side and Tinder and got "zilch" so far. Even though I'm doing all this I feel this kinda of real "want" for a lot of women in my life but at the same time not needy about it.

As for the not posting thing, I I've been feeling that for a while now. Not only do I find myself not wanting to post as much but just reading the forum in general. Its like a attitude of "why read about other people's success when I can be out there creating my own"? Anyway, I hope you do well during stage 3, that one was a pain in the @ss for me. It got me too emotional in my opinion.

I'm not too bothered about stage 3 as I had such a hard time with 2 that anything else couldn't be as bad!

The trouble is I'm not that confident with the sub producing any real results so I'm really just playing it in the hope, or slightest chance it could produce something good. After this run I'm not sure whether to run it again or do AM.

Maybe it does all come together in stages 5&6 but I'll reserve judgement on that

(04-13-2015, 08:54 AM)Ricardo Wrote: [ -> ][

I'm not too bothered about stage 3 as I had such a hard time with 2 that anything else couldn't be as bad!

thats what I thought too then stage 3 started :S

Stage 3 day 12

I haven't felt much of anything since starting this stage except that my neediness levels have dropped to rock bottom. My big desire to improve my physique is still strong as is keeping everything clean and tidy. I have started to feel a bit melancholy these last few days. My new car arrived which gives me a good feeling every time I drive it.

I think that WM has claimed it's first 'victim'..maybe. One of the women I see occasionally in the course of my work has suddenly become very friendly and chatty and keeps ringing me on trivial things. During the chatting she started asking me about my personal life and what I was doing at the weekend and telling me her plans..this was all very unnecessary and unexpected. I've also had a couple of rear presentations as Shannon calls them when there was no need to bend quite as much (or as long!).

The downside is she's not attractive to me so it's not something I would pursue.

I'm hoping WM will start to kick into action a bit more now although I was disappointed to read Darth's latest update