Subliminal Talk

Hey guys

I didn't keep a journal for my sex magnet experience, as I thought I would give a summary at the end. I should warn you, it is a bit of a long read.

I originally planned to do Become a Successful Entrepreneur, along with Ultra Success. When Sex Magnet was released I was intrigued by it, so decided to do it instead. I did the first two stages whilst I was at work and then took a sabbatical to work on my own business. My thinking was that I had already taken the time off for the business, lets see if SM can work it’s wonders whilst I am out and about town during the day. I’m not a big fan of the club/bar scene. There are plenty of shops, a big mall and a couple of cafes, that have plenty of attractive assistants.

Whilst I was out and about, I did interact a lot but noticed nothing spectacular or nothing out of the ordinary. I can tell subtle IOIs or most of the time it is a gut feeling if a girl may be interested in me. I had two instances, one where I didn’t know where something was and was walked all the way to the right place; and the other time I didn’t know where a shop was and the assistant walked out to the street to point to the right direction. Before I would just be told the right place or pointed to the right direction. The only problem was that these assistants were in their 60s.

I remember another time when a lady in her mid forties was giving me some serious eye game. I got better interest when I did Alpha Male 2010. I got a lot more touch/kino from attractive younger ladies like touching my arm, squeezing my shoulders, playfully slapping me. One girl even offered me a free flight to Scotland whenever I was travelling next (I live in the South-East England).

During the first two stages whilst I was at work, I did meet a single girl (first one I’ve ever met ). Conversations went well, I got her laughing a lot but sometimes she went quiet and there was an awkward silence. I really wanted to ask her out, but something kept stopping me. I learned she had been bullied as a teenager, so I thought she might have confidence issues, maybe I picked up on that.

During the run, I often wondered if the poles of the sex magnet got mixed up. I seemed to get some attention from men, I'm sure it wasn't sexual, but you never know. Two experiences that stand out:

I usually go grocery shopping in the evenings. One time a guy started talking to me in the reduced items isle of the shop. Usually making small talk about how cheap the items are. After we finished shopping, I walked with him once, as we walk down the same road for a while before we split paths, towards our houses. The second time, as we were walking he said "Oh, I have a bit of time, let me walk you to your home. You're probably thinking, oh god I don't want this creep following me home". My spidey sense started buzzing, and that is exactly what I was thinking, some creep wants to find out where I live. I just made an excuse that I needed to go to an additional shop further on, hoping he would go towards the path of his own home. He walked with me to the shop further on. He eventually left for his own home after a while.

I have tried to avoid him, but he saw me again whilst I was shopping. He tried to do the same thing, I just did the same tactic again. I do my grocery shopping in a different store now.

The second guy I saw in the local store one night. I was getting something before the shop closed. As I was at the counter, the guy who was chatting to the till assistant asked me I looked familiar, and he usually sees me at the local cafes. I am a pleasant conversationalist, I don’t mind talking to male or female but when I get a creepy vibe like this guy like this guy was giving, then my spidey sense starts to buzz. I had never seen him before, so I just said I spend my time between various cafes and which one did he see me in. The only café I go to is Starbucks but he mentioned some other café which I have never been to. I just paid for my goods and politely excused myself.

Nothing was happening by Stage 4, so I decided I would have to go out at night to socialise. There were plenty of opportunities seeing as there were Halloween, Christmas, birthday and New Year outings planned by my friends. Perhaps it will be easier for women to approach me, or easier for me to see who is interested via proximity etc. etc. I read Cortez’s success over the Halloween period with his sexy vampire babes and wondered what results I would get. The best I managed was a slightly overweight Lithuanian goth girl, that started grinding against my back.

Theoretically I should have found her appealing as I dig the goth look, but she didn’t really excite me much. My moment of glory was ruined as a drunk guy approached me and started asking a lot of questions about me. He wasn’t creepy at all, but his breath could have tranquilized a rhinoceros.

I really don’t know why this sub has given me lacklustre results. Even though I am not a virgin, I have had one serious relationship. That ended two years ago so I am over that and there is no negativity there. I feel I am in the same boat as Woceyes (hope I spelt your name right dude) and Spiral. So it will be interesting to see their results.

I’m open to any questions any guys may have about any experiences, but my results for the 240 day (40 days per stage) sex magnet campaign looks like this:

Sexy babes = 0
Cool guys = 0
Unsavoury men = 3

How much dating experience do you have? Because...you should know that becoming a ladies man is definitely not an overnight experience. I did plenty of work on myself before I ever stumbled across Woman Magnet, Alpha and Sex Magnet which I just recently am finishing. And because of this, I feel I had some great results. The biggest change I've noticed is not that women approach me everywhere I go...because I do a lot of online dating, is that the dates progress quickly and there is rarely ever a bad date. If that is the case it's because I wasn't attracted to her.

During Alpha, on the other hand, I was dating A LOT more but I wasn't getting good results on my dates. About 4/10 would lead elsewhere while the others stopped communicating with me. Now it's about 9/10.

Ryan

That's interesting Masterchief.

The more I read about peoples experiences with sex magnet the less inclined I am to run it after alpha male. I wonder if making a sex magnet set for inexperienced users is worth a thought. I'm not saying virgins but more people who aren't getting relative success with women already.

For me I've slept with 4 or 5 different women and can't remember how many I've hooked up with/done other stuff with but I know I only get a little success and I also know that it is uncommon for me to go for a year without sex. I suspect I would probably see similar results to you and others on sex magnet. I had some success in PUA but I was putting a lot of energy into it and I want to concentrate on the rest of my life instead of investing all my energy into women. This is what drew me to this place initially. That and making myself more emotionally healthy

Its still 4 or 5 month before I finish alpha but I wonder what input Shannon can have here and what changes could be made in 2.0 to help out those which aren't having some success with women already.

And another point I want to make that Ron told me...because he also didn't get as much result out of SM was that...Brent Smith is his mentor who has a strong focus on indifference and being approached/pursued by women. According to BS, it took him a long time of inner work in order to achieve these results. Years and years. Although, he didn't have subliminals, I would assume it might take a year or 2 before you see the result of women approaching and hitting on you. Both Cortez and I have been involved with a number of different self-improvement programs with women before ever finding these subs.

Ryan

Who is Ron on the forum's again? (apologies if its glaringly obvious)

Masterchief-the whole situation sounds pretty disappointing but I totally agree with Ryan.
It appears that those with backgrounds in self-improvement relating to woman are getting the most results from the set, unless were missing some other mental or physical factor. Sorry guys its just not true that physical appearance makes no difference-its by no means the end all be all but haircut to physical fitness to height all are factors, especially since certain woman have certain types. Not to say a 5'2 balding pudge ball can't be super succesful with woman but he is probably going to have some super solid inner game and be sharp as hell. I have had sex with 6 new woman since starting SM, about 3 months ago and they are a higher quality both physically and mentally (although on stage 3 they don't really seem up to snuff for me) than before but every time it happened I was on top of my own game in my life in ways I never was before and in ways that REALLY had nothing to do with the set-at least directly. I'm sure the set helped but I would say SM for me in its most positive sense adds gun powder to whatever you already got-and it definitely helped with 'sealing the deal' -overall SM no longer feels a game changer set for me-which is only disappointing because I spent 8 months thinking starting it would make all my dreams with woman come true. I want to not be neutral/negative about it but its just kind of true at this moment at least. I really think the set needs to be done along side of some conscious high quality reading material relating to success with woman, the same way the Alpha male book was recommended for the Alpha set. My best results in sex magnet have come when my mind is fresh with powerful sources relating to womanizing, not pua blah blah. Shannon can the next SM be more like a magic pill please !!??!! lol

Well. I know for a fact so many have such high expectations for SM and AM. I did too. And WM as well. But those who get through it don't feel like they met those expectations (having sex like a rock star). But you have to realize the sets Shannon made do not completely take over until a few years run through. I believe he said 3-4 years to feel the entire effects of AM? That is why he recommends doing them every year. I'm sure by then, your expectations will be met.

30 pages of scripts? You are basically attempting to pump into your head the mindset of the most powerful and successful seducers of all time in 6 months...

Journey...not destination.

Ryan

I wasn't holding my breath for a miracle, or wishing to get laid like a rock star. Funnily enough my expectations were quite moderate, as I thought surely Sex Magnet has been hyped up quite a bit, but still it would be fun to try it out. But no single approach for 240 days? That wasn't what I was expecting. I did put myself out there. I know a woman isn't exactly going to walk up to me asking me to sleep with her.

I thought if I wasn't approached, maybe the manifestation techniques might conjure up some saucy interactions, but nothing happened. When I did stuff like Natural Grounding, I was asked for cigarettes by some random cute girls, so I know about indirect approaches.

Nothing would make me happy than to give SM another run, but with these kind of results I'd be a fool not to try a different program like the Ideal Romantic/Sexual Lover subliminal.

I'm experienced enough, in self development. I can build attraction whilst talking. I know a couple of you guys, from the old Cory Sky forums and maybe Rainbow from my days when I was doing Natural Grounding. I have done enough work on myself, I'm not new to it. I haven't gone into the online dating route yet, all I was concentrating on was daytime then on nights out. May have to give the online route a shot. I think my football buddy maybe in desperate need of your guide, as I think he is getting scammed online by a woman.

I was wondering what happened to Ron. Brent is not about not approaching. He does approach, but with no agenda. I thought if Ron was doing the Being The Mayor technique whilst on Sex Magnet, the results would be dynamite. Where is Ron these days? Is he still on these forums?

He doesn't come on here anymore, just wants to stick around Brent's forums I suppose. I tried contacting him today to see what he is up to so I'll let you know.

Ryan

That is disappointing, Masterchief, but I suspect that what's happening is that you're simply needing the same thing I needed, which was more than one cycle of run-throughs on alpha and SM. Each run through raises you as much as you are ready for.

The phenomenon of attracting males has been dealt with much more strongly in 2.0, though. What you were attracting was probably either a bisexual guy or a guy who identified internally as a female. The wording in 2.0 should prevent even them from doing anything but offering help and support out of admiration.

I am running through SM 2.0 Beta 1 right now for the first time, and am about a month in, and when I did 1.0 I got to Stage 3 before I had to give up because of the trip I was on forcing me to have no electrical access for days and even weeks at a time. During the 2 stages of 1.0 it attracted three women into my life whom I could have slept with, and one whom I did start a relationship with that included sex. All of them older than me, interestingly enough.

Since starting Beta 1 of SM 2.0, I have been really impressed with the (very obvious) results it's having on me personally, although I am working so much that I have had maybe 1.5 hours in the last month to be out in social situations. During that 1.5 hours, I had three women expressing serious IOIs, two of them taken (one sitting next to her husband and giving me very blatant "Please come open me" signals), and I got the waitress to give me her phone number without me directly asking for it.

I know these programs work, because some of the guys are getting the intended results, which can only mean that some users will simply need to ramp up further than others. However, your situation does fit the requirements for a refund if you'd like one. We want you to be happy with what you purchase from us, especially the big stuff.

My advice would be to run through AM and then SM a time or two more before you make final judgement, and my suggestion is that you use this opportunity to get a copy of SM 2.0 for that to help with the apparently interested males. I could send you a copy of 2.0 instead of a refund, also, which is a better deal for you as it fixes the males approaching and saves you some money, as 2.0 is going to be around $206 a copy.

In that case. Shannon, I am not happy with my results. May I please have a free 2.0 Also

Ryan

Shannon,is there going to be the 50% discount for upgrading SM from previous
years like for the AM set?

(01-25-2012, 02:52 PM)Ryan Wrote: [ -> ]In that case. Shannon, I am not happy with my results. May I please have a free 2.0 Also

Ryan

Nice, Ryan. lol

(01-25-2012, 02:54 PM)Roy Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,is there going to be the 50% discount for upgrading SM from previous
years like for the AM set?

Yes.

Sorry to hear that Mastercheif but good to know spiral and i are not the only ones having difficulties. Didn't mean to write a book Mastercheif on your topic. Yes you spelt my name right.

I have been working on self improvement related to women long before i came here or even before i did Cory's stuff. In fact i did a lot of things through Eric disco way of teaching on approach anxiety. Ryan you know this as we talk all the time. Rainbow Your looking at our results through your perspective, you are also assuming a lot about us, we all do this to a point.

Also just because i am a virgin dose not mean i have never had women chasing me or offering to have sex with me. In fact after this set i realized just how many did since high school. This set pretty much made me feel really narcissistic. i had better results just on the flirt sub or aura of sexiness sub. Obviously i did not have sex with any of the girls that begged me in my past. I had plenty of women on this set eye me like a piece of meat but a lot of them i wasn't sexually attracted to and the ones that i am are married. I felt no drive or motivation to actually go have sex with any of them.

My expectations were not high on the sub. I never let my self get hyped up either for things, better to keep a level head vs high expectations about what "should" come from things. Do i have cool people wanting to hang out with me?.. yeah more so then i thought i would. Do i have guys creeping me out?.. yeah i get stared at by dudes yeah some are just in shock on how awesome i am and others are wanting me. Did my brain melt from the subs/resistance and had a total melt down? maybe im not sure

all and all Shannon you make awesome products. I will buy 2.0 and run it, ill have better luck next time.