(07-26-2013, 04:17 PM)ohmygee Wrote: [ -> ]I was keeping the examples very simple, without going into too much detail. Quality of life is basically the same with both guys, so no Guy 2 doesn't have his shit together more-so then Guy 1. Guy 1 has improved himself. Maybe you're making the assumption Guy 1 hasn't improved himself because he didn't run AM5? Either way I assure you both are very similar people is relation to the quality of their life.
I'm not sure why you think Guy 1 is manipulating girls. Going into an interaction, introducing himself, and leaving shortly after is NOT manipulation.
From my understanding, he thinks it leaves the thought of him lingering in the girls head[...]
Explain that to me. How is trying to get her thinking about him not an act of "manipulation"? To me, it's like he doesn't trust that she will be thinking about him so he has to DO something to MAKE her think about him. Manipulation.
(07-26-2013, 04:17 PM)ohmygee Wrote: [ -> ]I think the results are entirely because of WM2. I think its a better program because of what Guy 2 has told me about how he felt during WM2. Guy 2 in the beginning said that in WM2 stage 2 he didn't think the program was working, and was going to quit subs all together. Then once I talked to him again at the beginning of stage 6, he told me everything changed, more success with women, social freedom, ect. Told me I had to use this sub (thats why I bought it).
Well I look forward to your progress of course.
(07-26-2013, 04:17 PM)ohmygee Wrote: [ -> ]Before WM2 Guy 2 was pretty average mentally. Average success with girls, mild-anxiety when approaching. Things apparently just "clicked" for him. Again, its hard to pin-point every detail as I dont know. Just assume his mentality towards dating and sex were just above average.
Ah, so even there he was beyond my level. Thanks for the info.
Anyhow, I guess Joronda is female? lol, my bad. I thought Joronda and ohmygee were the same user. I didn't read the user names apparently, they just seemed to be so similar when typing.
Joronda and her boyfriend discuss all sorts of things together about Indigo Labs - and we are getting very good results from following the instructions carefully.
Princess Diana had a doona on her bed with words embroidered on it: "you have to kiss quite a few frogs to find your Prince".
Girls will talk to you if you look (and act) friendly. They were taught not to talk to strangers, so you need to ask them questions that don't need a yes/no answer.
The idea is to move them quickly to the point where you don't seem a stranger to them any more.
Girls usually "want what they can't have" or "what others girls want".
If you play "Mr Nice Guy", they wonder why you haven't been snapped up by someone else. If you are too easy to catch, then you are not "first prize".
If you play hard to catch, a girl will be more likely to chase you if she is interested in you.
Joronda, How do I rep you?
(07-28-2013, 09:07 PM)ohmygee Wrote: [ -> ] (07-27-2013, 07:47 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]Explain that to me. How is trying to get her thinking about him not an act of "manipulation"? To me, it's like he doesn't trust that she will be thinking about him so he has to DO something to MAKE her think about him. Manipulation.
Because its simply not, you don't know what you're talking about. You have no idea the f'd up, needy, pathetic shit guys will say to girls just to get their dick wet, and I have no intention of embellishing. I've read girls texts that show me, and I like to watch how guys hit on my girl at venue's to see how good their game is when I'm not standing right beside her. But most guys run sub-par game, thats when I intervene and shut the down. They always look pissed when I do so, my ego approves.
Also I never said he's trying to get her to think about him. I believe he basis this thinking off results that I've gotten in the past when I first started hitting clubs. I would go in to an interaction, spin the girl to gauge interest, and bounce... I didn't know what to do after that, I was new. If I ever saw the girl again, and she was given me eye contact. I'd go back and actually talk with her by inviting her outside.
I said its just mental masturbation thinking, because in simplest terms "game" is based off of attraction and being sexually available. Clubs are perfect because imo you find out if a girl is interested in you really FAST.
Side Note: Guy 1 just told me today that another girl approached him last night at a club that resulted in sex.
I've been the guy who the girl is with while some other guy is texting her. I've also been the guy who is talking to women in a bar when some other guy comes up and hits on them (last week, twice).
I can promise you two things. Most men have really bad game and say really stupid things to girls in bars (Often they are so drunk that its more like stammering.)
And the other thing I can promise you is that men send over the top pathetic needy texts to girls. One girl I was with was literally laughing at this guy who was texting her while she was showing me the texts.
Word to the wise, watch your texts, because you don't know who's reading them, and women will turn you into a joke to her friends and other guys, trust me.
My boyfriend doesn't post on this thread, Sarge. I have 5-8 wild rabbits that play in my large rose garden which I manifested in a few weeks. I could shoot the rabbits and make a pie, or I can let them play and watch them having fun together. I have decided there is enough room for all of us.
(03-23-2014, 07:05 PM)Joronda Wrote: [ -> ]My boyfriend doesn't post on this thread, Sarge. I have 5-8 wild rabbits that play in my large rose garden which I manifested in a few weeks. I could shoot the rabbits and make a pie, or I can let them play and watch them having fun together. I have decided there is enough room for all of us.
Lol, to what are you replying? I remember posting in this thread like a year ago, what made you come back and post this?
One Filmstar had a lot of success with snooty woman by deliberately putting them down - it annoyed them that any man could think of them as being less than PERFECT.
Reverse psychology, coz they would try to get dates with him, to try and get him to upgrade his opinion of them.
He always had the upper hand, and they would chase him.